BassBomb
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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: TehMac
I agree lol.Once BF3 comes around, I will be playing mucho.
battlefield sucks ass as evidenced by 2/3 of the series (BF2 and 2142).
bf2 was coded so poorly - i can't believe as many people played it as they did
with that, it was surprisingly fun once a few patches came
Yes. While floating in money.
People seem to forget that video games are business first, entertainment second.
This is absurdly stupid, to be as positive towards it as I can be. He repeatedly talks about the huge revenue WoW is generating. Assuming(improperly, but to give his statement as much benefit as possible) every single WoW subscriber is paying $15 a month(they pay less in less developed nations) that is a total of 150Million a month, $1.8Billion a year. That is the biggest thing going in PC gaming atm and that is worldwide. Take2 had one game in one week on the consoles what Blizz makes off a WoW world wide in a quarter.
He also talks about Germany being bigger then any non DS console. There is another country named Japan, they sell a bit more then Germany and I think you will find the margin is far more skewed towards consoles then its' European counterpart. I'm not saying anything like PC gaming is dieing, but this guy is profoundly out to lunch with some of his comments.
Then maybe people who refuse to believe good games can exist on platforms other than the PC should stop their whining.
Y'know, if you want to point fingers about whining n all.
I'd be more confident if something good actually came out since, oh, last December. Since buying Crysis in VERY early December, I've bought zero PC games and 5 PS3 games. So Age of Conan (?) is out, but I don't have time for an MMORPG. My computer is also getting old...
irishScott
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HAHAHAHAHA
My 2 year old Acer TM8200 Notebook can and has played STALKER, Company of Heroes, The entire HL2 series, Star Wars Empire at War, CS Source, America's Army, and Ghost Recon AW. And most of those on medium-high graphics settings. Only recently have I started encountering games that force me to low settings.
I also played Rise of Nations (2003) on a 98 P3 Dell XPS, and that was with an ancient Matrox Dual-head G400.
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Just because a computer comes from an OEM doesn't mean it can't play new/recent games. It all depends on the specs.
Modelworks
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You guys should look at the posting of ShawnD1 as an example of the problem with pc gaming.
People go to best buy, staples and buy a PC.
They come home wanting to play a PC game.
They can't understand why the PC they just bought, can't play the PC game they just bought.
People don't want to educate themselves they want to just buy the product and use it.
That is why the console market is so huge, its not because of piracy.
Its because consoles are plug and play.
When people see PC they think that means all PC.
Just like when they see a game marked 360/PS3.
They think its just suppose to work because the box says its PC.
Want some fun ?
Try explaining to the average shopper that their are other operating systems besides windows and why they should consider them.
People go to best buy, staples and buy a PC.
They come home wanting to play a PC game.
They can't understand why the PC they just bought, can't play the PC game they just bought.
People don't want to educate themselves they want to just buy the product and use it.
That is why the console market is so huge, its not because of piracy.
Its because consoles are plug and play.
When people see PC they think that means all PC.
Just like when they see a game marked 360/PS3.
They think its just suppose to work because the box says its PC.
Want some fun ?
Try explaining to the average shopper that their are other operating systems besides windows and why they should consider them.
Schadenfroh
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A longtime business associate of my family called me up the other day regarding a problem her daughter was having. It went something like this... "My daughter bought an Apple mac laptop and none of the programs she bought for her old Dell will install on it. Could you tell us what we are doing wrong?"
irishScott
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:laugh: I'm sorry, but that's inexcusable. People educate themselves about cars before buying them, computers are no different. For most people they're as vital as cars anyway.
Modelworks
Lifer
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LOL
That was like my brother who bought a iMac at a local auction and brought it to me.
I told him it had no OS installed and that I would have to get a copy of the OS first.
He said "you don't have a copy of xp ?"
It's not an argument at all. The numbers speak for themselves.
Epic isn't so really whining so much as choosing to develop on another platform and telling people why. Most of the whining I hear comes from platform exclusivists who for some reason think you have to adhere and fanboy for a single platform.
Egg-zactly. The PC offers a broad, intricate platform capable of delivering experiences you can't get from a console no-how, no-way, but many people consider the requisite hardware and software knowledge (not to mention the time invested in keeping your knowledge current) too much trouble. Most of the gaming market (read: pre-pubescent and pubescent males) just wants to flip a switch and start murdering things.
This isn't to say that's the only kind of experience you can get on consoles - it isn't - but consoles are definitely the lowest-hassle method of accessing that kind of content at the moment.
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Err it was a record year every year for the last 3 years for PC gaming.
Im not seeing the dip
How do you want to define "peak"?
As we all know, the point of internet forums is to convince other people that your opinion is fact. For most of the goobs arguing on here, "peak" means "when they liked it most", not top sales.
This is, of course, why they have trouble reconciling the higher sales of software for consoles. PC games were the games they liked the most, so why on earth don't all developers focus on the PC platform? They should be more concerned with making good games than making money!
Those of us out here in the real world find this counterintuitive and ludicrous, but we're using adult thought processes, which is why there's such a disconnect between our perspective and theirs.
irishScott
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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Err it was a record year every year for the last 3 years for PC gaming.
Im not seeing the dip
How do you want to define "peak"?
As we all know, the point of internet forums is to convince other people that your opinion is fact. For most of the goobs arguing on here, "peak" means "when they liked it most", not top sales.
This is, of course, why they have trouble reconciling the higher sales of software for consoles. PC games were the games they liked the most, so why on earth don't all developers focus on the PC platform? They should be more concerned with making good games than making money!
Those of us out here in the real world find this counterintuitive and ludicrous, but we're using adult thought processes, which is why there's such a disconnect between our perspective and theirs.
Lol what is it with you and your vaunted "adult perspective"; and who is "those of us"? First the facebook deal in L&R, now this? Here's my opinion: Adults don't need to flaunt the fact that they're adults to prove their point. You sound more like me a couple of years ago talking about how "adult" I had become (when I was 18).
And most of us "goobs" don't have any trouble reconciling higher sales of console games. Anyone with half a brain can "reconcile" it. The vast majority of people out there aren't that sharp, and thus would rather play Halo 3 all day as opposed to a game that actually required serious thought. Boom! Reconciled.
We're simply idealists. My philosophy when it comes to my work is quality over quantity (within reason). IMO it's this philosophy that's brought us most of the quality games that are out there. Look at Blizzard and Valve. Aside from WoW, I (and many others) have not been disappointed by any game from either company, and both have produced relatively few games when compared to other giants such as EA. Both have also been extremely successful financially. I don't think Valve has ever touched the console market, and IIRC the last console game Blizzard made was back in the early 90s.
FYI: Your opinions are no more factual than anyone else's. Just because you find it counterintuitive doesn't make it wrong. I initially found recursive programming counterintuitive. Flat out rejecting it would have prevented me from learning advanced concepts out of willful ignorance.
Orange Box was released for 360 and PS3. I'm not sure if it was any good or if it sold well, but there it is.
irishScott
Lifer
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Thanks, good to know. As for sales data, according to an interview with Doug Lombari:
http://liveforgaming.wordpress...s-figures-on-consoles/
I haven't played it, but maybe the console version sucked. Half-Life 2 isn't like Doom 3 where you just run around and shoot things; there's a fair amount of agility needed in certain areas. Portal is a pretty intense game as well, and I can't really imagine being able to play that game on an Xbox.
Other shooters like Doom 3 and Bioshock are very good on Xbox.
Other shooters like Doom 3 and Bioshock are very good on Xbox.
please just slap me if im getting off topic
I myself useto be part of the "pc gaming is the only platform i will touch" as most of u said,
its all about how easy it is for someone to be able to play the games. i own a couple consoles, and a psp now, time is of the essence.
i worked at a staples,and now work at a computer helpdesk. the statement made earlier about how people would research there car but not there computer is so truth.there car has a sole purpose ...the computer can do many things. so why people dont research it before buying is absolutley ridiculous. and i hate how many people think that PC gaming=expensive super computer, when in reality u can get a pretty enjoyable experience for roughly 4-500 dollars if u really cut corners. thats about how much a console is worth these days.
Another reason why console gaming is in the mainstream, is because people only see base cost...they only see well my console can play games, and well my pc can play games. they dont weigh eachs abilities..such as my ability to create many things with my pc, vs me playing lets say...GTA4(which i dont)
oh well, i could put so much more. but this will do
I myself useto be part of the "pc gaming is the only platform i will touch" as most of u said,
its all about how easy it is for someone to be able to play the games. i own a couple consoles, and a psp now, time is of the essence.
i worked at a staples,and now work at a computer helpdesk. the statement made earlier about how people would research there car but not there computer is so truth.there car has a sole purpose ...the computer can do many things. so why people dont research it before buying is absolutley ridiculous. and i hate how many people think that PC gaming=expensive super computer, when in reality u can get a pretty enjoyable experience for roughly 4-500 dollars if u really cut corners. thats about how much a console is worth these days.
Another reason why console gaming is in the mainstream, is because people only see base cost...they only see well my console can play games, and well my pc can play games. they dont weigh eachs abilities..such as my ability to create many things with my pc, vs me playing lets say...GTA4(which i dont)
oh well, i could put so much more. but this will do
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