PBS The Vietnam War

PottedMeat

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saw the first ep last night, high quality stuff

...imagine if truman actually read ho chi minh's letters and gave him support, also if de gaulle had not insisted on reasserting control over vietnam after ww2

dien bien phu really screwed the french over everywhere for decades "nah, the viet minh will never surround us with artillery"
 
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Thebobo

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Just finished the last Episode. Burns is a master with documentaries. The last episode was the most interesting for me since it included what has happened after the war. Previous documentaries have not. And of course the view from the side of the soldiers VC and regular NVC. I also liked that they explained the two famous photos.
 

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I went to college with Bill Ehrhart. We were DU brothers together, and swam on the swim team. Those Quakers. They'll take any mother's son.
 
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I had heard about this but have only caught about 15-20 minutes of it, during commercials of Fear the Walking Dead this past Sunday. Seemed pretty well done. My dad mentioned it was good too. That's awesome they are offering it streaming online; thank God for 2017. So much more convenient to watch it online, ANYTIME, than have to be home and free for some specific time when it airs.
 

Thebobo

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I had heard about this but have only caught about 15-20 minutes of it, during commercials of Fear the Walking Dead this past Sunday. Seemed pretty well done. My dad mentioned it was good too. That's awesome they are offering it streaming online; thank God for 2017. So much more convenient to watch it online, ANYTIME, than have to be home and free for some specific time when it airs.

Yea its also available on On-demand if you have that.
 

OutHouse

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ive watched all 10 episodes and it was captivating. Loved the part with Gen McPeak. I met him in Panama during operation Just Cause. i was paroling the flight-line on Howard AFB and he has his driver stops his staff car with all the pretty stars on the license placard in front of my Humvee and im like oh shit. So my partner and I get out, salute... he says "get back in the hummer and drive me around the flight-line. YES GENERAL!

all he did was just shoot the shit with a couple of lowly E-4's for a hour, i guess he just needed to get away from the bullshit Generals have to deal with and smoke and joke with a couple of cops on the flightline. The most amusing thing he said to me. was. "Airman, you know who i hate the most? 2nd Lieutenants and Colonels. why? Because 2nd Lieutenants are fucking stupid and Colonels only see stars. HAHAHAHAHHA

Nedless to say word got around the squadron fast that the General was in a hummer with a couple of airman. after we dropped the General off at his staff car we got called over the radio to report to Squadron HQ ASAP... man our Major and Captain were wigging the fuck out. What did he want, what did he say, what did you say, was he mad? we arent going to get any phone calls are we? how long was he in the hummer with you two.... lol it was the best part of that whole tour.
 
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Thebobo

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ive watched all 10 episodes and it was captivating. Loved the part with Gen McPeak. I met him in Panama during operation Just Cause. i was paroling the flight-line on Howard AFB and he has his driver stops his staff car with all the pretty stars on the license placard in front of my Humvee and im like oh shit. So my partner and I get out, salute... he says "get back in the hummer and drive me around the flight-line. YES GENERAL!

all he did was just shoot the shit with a couple of lowly E-4's for a hour, i guess he just needed to get away from the bullshit Generals have to deal with and smoke and joke with a couple of cops on the flightline. The most amusing thing he said to me. was. "Airman, you know who i hate the most? 2nd Lieutenants and Colonels. why? Because 2nd Lieutenants are fucking stupid and Colonels only see stars. HAHAHAHAHHA

Nedless to say word got around the squadron fast that the General was in a hummer with a couple of airman. after we dropped the General off at his staff car we called on the radio to report to Squadron HQ ASAP... man our Major and Captain were wigging the fuck out. What did he want. what did you say. lol it was the best part of that whole tour.

Cool story.
 

Linflas

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saw the first ep last night, high quality stuff

...imagine if truman actually read ho chi minh's letters and gave him support, also if de gaulle had not insisted on reasserting control over vietnam after ww2

dien bien phu really screwed the french over everywhere for decades "nah, the viet minh will never surround us with artillery"
The first episode was very enlightening to me as someone who grew up with this as part of my daily life as a kid and joined the Navy 2 months before they stopped awarding the National Defense ribbons for Vietnam. I knew the outlines of the French colonial era but virtually nothing of how Ho came into power and our initially somewhat positive relationship with him. I have all 10 episodes on my Plex to watch the rest when I get a chance.
 

OutHouse

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one thing about the series is the coverage of the protest. the protest in the 60's and 70's compared to today were extremely violent and the numbers of people who participated is astonishing.

the Nixon tapes they played were amazing. good God that man was a total criminal.
 
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Thebobo

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one thing about the series is the coverage of the protest. the protest in the 60's and 70's compared to today were extremely violent and the numbers of people who participated is astonishing.

the Nixon tapes they played were amazing. good God that man was a total criminal.

Kinda reminds me of someone else.
 

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Reminds me of all the USA air support . . and the "Reds" still prevailed.

North Korea may not be so "easy" after all!
 

zinfamous

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one thing about the series is the coverage of the protest. the protest in the 60's and 70's compared to today were extremely violent and the numbers of people who participated is astonishing.

the Nixon tapes they played were amazing. good God that man was a total criminal.

You should see Nixon by Nixon, then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi0jP4CBsc0

holy crap whole thing is on youtube...not sure if that is legal.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3889036/

I couldn't stop telling myself the same throughout. It's rather staggering.
 
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SKORPI0

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Wow, 10 Blu-rays for this series. My kind of documentary, especially by Ken Burns.

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZZC6G2B/ref=abs_brd_tag_dp?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/episodes/
 

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Some south Vietnamese people are upset that they weren't mentioned very much but our troops were over there to fight against communism not for the South Vietnamese.
 

Thebobo

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Listened to a spot on PBS radio about the Documentary. They had on Daniel Ellsberg of the Pentagon Papers fame. He was saying that the release of the Pentagon Papers and the anti war movement had a greater the outcome of the war then was presented in the documentary. I thought they could've covered it a little more. eh.
 
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