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PB&J: Is This the Worst Weapon Can a Kid Can Bring to School?

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waggy said:
/this.

banning peanut butter for everyone? wtf no that is not the solution. Teaching the kids on how to handle peanut butter, what goes into what they make etc.

A kid in my daughters class has peanut allergy. The mother is not asking for a ban. She ask if the kids have it the kids let him know so he stays away until its eaten and they wash up. Also when we make stuff for the class we let the teacher know if it has peanuts. I love to bake (yeah i suck at it still) and make stuff for the class often. Knowing he has a peanut allergy i take care in what i make.

The school educated the kids on peanut allergy. they stress looking at what is IN the stuff you share and taking precautions if you eat peanuts. Always wash up after you eat.Hell her class even knows what to look for if he gets sick (it happened last year. idiotic sub gave the kids cookies with peanuts in it. she didn't know that one ingredient was a nut)

that is how it is done. don't ban something from the rest of the school when education works.


btw. guess what today is for lunch at teh school? yeah PB sandwiches.
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And when your kid forgets to wash up and grabs the kid with the allergy at playtime.

The kid with the allergy goes into a full anaphylactic reaction and isnt found in time, suffers brain damage and needs full 24 hours care your going to offer to pay?
 
diesbudt said:
Better yet.

Each class has a few stupid kids. Classes are unfair to them, and they may grow up with 0 self confidence because of this. So lets make the classes even stupider, like let us make sure the hardest math they learn by grade 12 is division with single digit numbers. This way it is fair to that minority to.

:awe:
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sad..but it is happening. there was a school that cancelled advanced class's because it hurt the confidence of those that didn't make it. there was a thread about it here last year.
 
I was in grade 8 when this whole anti-peanut crusade started. They had a "nut free zone" in the cafeteria. You could still bring PB&J and other peanut items though. That was 15 years ago.

Like the WiFi and vaccine issues, I think a lot of the concerns over nut allergies are based on bad science. The Register interviewed a professor who studies the sociology of medicine a couple years back. Here's the article.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/10/nut_allergy_hysteria/

Only about 150 people die each year due to all food allergies combined. Your kid is 20x more likely to die playing junior sports.

There's a couple things I want to know. How many kids are so deathly allergic to peanuts that mere exposure risks death? The other more pressing question: Why so many kids seem to suffer from nut allergies today than they did say 20 years, before the anti-peanut crusade. What environmental factors have changed?

The problem with peanut free schools is we don't live in a peanut free world. And if mere exposure threatens death, these kids would not be able to entre grocery stores, restaurants, baseball games, anything that stocks nuts. Going nut free entirely is an unreasonable accomodation most likely brought about by threats of lawsuits. I want to see some harder facts on this problem so we can make an educated decision, not an emotional one.
 
WelshBloke said:
And when your kid forgets to wash up and grabs the kid with the allergy at playtime.

The kid with the allergy goes into a full anaphylactic reaction and isnt found in time, suffers brain damage and needs full 24 hours care your going to offer to pay?
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sad part is that is going to be a issue his whole LIFETIME. what is eh going to do after he gets out of this school? then high school and college? do you think that risk decreases once he enters the real world?

BTW the kid is in the 5th grade now. we have known since actually pre-school about it. This has a been a situation there whole life the kids understand the risk.

The one issue that happened was because of a idiotic sub teacher. she brought in cookies to be nice to the class. a few kids said he couldn't eat nuts. the teacher said there was none in it. he had them and got sick. went to the principals office and got the epipen (is that what it is called?) went to the doctor adn was fine.


so the odds of a simple touch killing him? slim. but hell the kids know what to look for and the reaction
 
joshsquall said:
I'd think it would be more beneficial to teach your peanut allergic child how to avoid peanuts and how to deal with it if they do come into contact with them. The real world doesn't exactly ban peanuts everywhere. This is really just a decision based on liability.
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kids with peanut allergies learn this really really really quick.
 
mmntech said:
I was in grade 8 when this whole anti-peanut crusade started. They had a "nut free zone" in the cafeteria. You could still bring PB&J and other peanut items though. That was 15 years ago.

Like the WiFi and vaccine issues, I think a lot of the concerns over nut allergies are based on bad science. The Register interviewed a professor who studies the sociology of medicine a couple years back. Here's the article.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/10/nut_allergy_hysteria/

Only about 150 people die each year due to all food allergies combined. Your kid is 20x more likely to die playing junior sports.

There's a couple things I want to know. How many kids are so deathly allergic to peanuts that mere exposure risks death? The other more pressing question: Why so many kids seem to suffer from nut allergies today than they did say 20 years, before the anti-peanut crusade. What environmental factors have changed?

The problem with peanut free schools is we don't live in a peanut free world. And if mere exposure threatens death, these kids would not be able to entre grocery stores, restaurants, baseball games, anything that stocks nuts. Going nut free entirely is an unreasonable accomodation most likely brought about by threats of lawsuits. I want to see some harder facts on this problem so we can make an educated decision, not an emotional one.
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Obviously theres no need to ban peanuts in every school. But if one of the kids has a serious allergy to them then they need to inform the school and the school banning peanuts seems reasonable.

The whole "we dont live in a peanut free world" thing is daft as well. Kids have very little control over their surroundings or fellow students. Its not like being an adult.
 
I was just asking my wife what our schools do:

1. Separate tables
2. They found hand washing doesn't always works, so baby wipes are given to each kid after lunch. I guess it gets the oils off better.
3. For the especially messy lunch, a trip to the bathroom is required to clean up.
 
To Charles-EntitlementMentality-Kozierok:

For the record, I have a kid with peanut allergies. He is home schooled.

I have another child that does not have peanut allergies, she goes to public school.

It's called common sense. It's supposed to be taught fairly early on in life, by parents. Unfortunately it's a lost skill these days.
 
WelshBloke said:
The whole "we dont live in a peanut free world" thing is daft as well. Kids have very little control over their surroundings or fellow students. Its not like being an adult.
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So what happens when the kid gets a job and his coworkers are eating things with nuts? Is he going to quit or cry to management about it? He could quit and get another job, but what happens when people have nut products there? Like it or nut, products with nuts are EVERYWHERE. Might as well nip it in the bud and get your kid on the right track about it early on.
 
waggy said:
sad part is that is going to be a issue his whole LIFETIME. what is eh going to do after he gets out of this school? then high school and college? do you think that risk decreases once he enters the real world?
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When hes an adult he wont be messing around in a playground with other kids. (at least I hope not)


waggy said:
so the odds of a simple touch killing him? slim. but hell the kids know what to look for and the reaction
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Thats a lot of responsibly for a young kid (I have no idea how old 5th grade is, I'm not American), if something goes wrong who will take the responsibility?
 
xanis said:
So what happens when the kid gets a job and his coworkers are eating things with nuts? Is he going to quit or cry to management about it? He could quit and get another job, but what happens when people have nut products there?
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When hes an adult he wont be messing around in a playground with other kids. (at least I hope not)
 
ch33zw1z said:
I was just asking my wife what our schools do:

1. Separate tables
2. They found hand washing doesn't always works, so baby wipes are given to each kid after lunch. I guess it gets the oils off better.
3. For the especially messy lunch, a trip to the bathroom is required to clean up.
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So instead of simply not having that food type, they spend extra money buying baby wipes for every student? That does not seem like a smart decision. A ban would save the school more money.
 
ch33zw1z said:
I was just asking my wife what our schools do:

1. Separate tables
2. They found hand washing doesn't always works, so baby wipes are given to each kid after lunch. I guess it gets the oils off better.
3. For the especially messy lunch, a trip to the bathroom is required to clean up.
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yeah her class has a TON of baby wipes and anti-bacterial wipes. IF they have peanut butter (as i said my daughter eats a bunch and trail mix) they use the wipes and the anti-bacterial wipes on stuff.
 
SunnyD said:
To Charles-EntitlementMentality-Kozierok:

For the record, I have a kid with peanut allergies. He is home schooled.

I have another child that does not have peanut allergies, she goes to public school.
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WelshBloke said:
When hes an adult he wont be messing around in a playground with other kids. (at least I hope not)
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😀 I would sure hope not.

He will, however, be sitting near or around people consuming nuts, and most likely will touch/come in contact with surfaces that people with nuts have touched (touched with their nuts? eh?).
 
Seems to me the solution(s) are obvious. Kids with peanut allergies should be seated away from others. Educate other students about allergies and how to prevent reactions by washing hands, etc. Students with severe allergies should be required to have an epipen and/or meds available at the school.

I just don't get it. It's not right to ban peanuts from schools.
 
waggy said:
err. what does that have anything to do with what he asked? What is he going to do in the real world? bitch to his boss?
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When hes an adult the risk will be a lot less. Kids have a lot of contact between them, adults not so much.

Adults tend to be more responsible and a bit more hygienic than kids as well.
 
one of the worst.allergies to have. you literally have to check the ingredients on everything you eat. i always had a theory that if you inject small amounts of peanut oil into the bloodstream a little at a time, then increase slowly, you could help build resistance and your body could tolerate it. similar to snake venom. i dont know if any scientists have tested this theory on a kid yet
 
Red Storm said:
So instead of simply not having that food type, they spend extra money buying baby wipes for every student? That does not seem like a smart decision. A ban would save the school more money.
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So place the financial burden on the parents packing the lunch. PB is popular because it's healthy, and relatively inexpensive.
 
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