Originally posted by: Liver
Please read this entire post (or just the last quote).
Well most of us will not accept CC Paypal because of the fees.
I made an assumption in the first post regarding CC payment. What you said is true, but does not answer my question.
True my CC will allow me to chargeback however seeing as most traders here will not allow you to use CC funded Paypal. I am someone who also will not accept CC funded paypal due to the fees associated with it. Having protection on the currency does you no good if no one will accept that currency
When you buy from an established trader yo0u can fell pretty confident that you will get what they say you are getting.
This is true, but so is saying most fire is hot.
you made the following statement
Why do people still insist on having someone ship something first when they will pay with credit card PayPal? I can almost understand that it is more of a hassle (if the item is not as described, or never sent), but it is not that convincing of an argument.
I responded to that. I shop at newegg and Zipzoomfly almost exclusively and I shy away from retailers with low reseller ratings. This is because while if I get defrauded while using a CC I will get my money back (not always through paypal) I will lose TIME and if it is something I needed while I may not be out the money I still do not have the item that I want. I am (as many others are) willing to take less or pay a little more for a hassle free deal.
Most of us traders are honest and most people that get trolled get trtolled partially because they did not take due dilligence.
True, but what is the loss? My credit card refunds everything. Does yours (really, just a question)?
I have never had to do a charge back on paypal and I have done a few chargebacks for online purchases that did not go as planned. my question were you able to do a chargeback on a paypal transaction?
I am currently selling a laptop. I will not cross ship it to some one with <40 heat. It is not worth my time to risk gettimng trolled.
That is your business practice. You make choices for yourself, nothing wrong with that, but does not answer my question.
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Established AT forum members + more Heatware > you
That answers nothing.
would you pay more and take more risk with an online retailer that really high reseller ratings? would you pay more from a person in an established store or a guy on the street
Amdskip: It's just what we do around here. Ship first or don't sell at all. It's the blunt truth. I had to work myself up to my heat level that I have now, wasn't just handed references.
Truth is truth, I agree. I don't agree that it is "way it has always been done, so it has to be right."
well in order to effect change you need to get other thinking the way you do. You need to have a better plan. Good luck with both of those
Jaybert: Your credit card will not always cover you since you are not directly paying the user, rather you are paying a 3rd party (paypal). They will just say that they completed their end of the transaction as described. Your credit card company may or may not refund your money as a courtesy, but they are absolutely under no obligation to do so. You would have to take it up with paypal who does not even handle claims if the item is not as described, only if you do not receive the item (know from experience).
Do you have pre pay credit card?
paypal performed the service that you contracted them to do. If you get a cash advance and I mug you can you chargeback the cash advance?
RaiderJ said: The better heat somebody has, the more likely you are to have a smooth transaction. I personally won't risk my money on someone who doesn't. True, you could do a CC chargeback, but why go through all that if you don't have to? There will ALWAYS be other deals, and I'd rather wait and find one that has a better chance of success.
That makes the most sense, and I buy it.
Thanks
Liver
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