Payl Ryan, words are not enough, now lying through pictures

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Of course the "liberal" media remains mostly complicit in the deception.

Looking at the pictures published by CBS, AP, NBC and the NYT, it appears as if Paul Ryan rolled up his sleeves and helped clean up after a meal served at an Ohio soup kitchen. That’s in contrast, though, to the WAPO post which indicates Ryan not only arrived after all the homeless diners had left, but also after the kitchen was cleaned up. Although cautiously worded, the WAPO story indicates that Ryan, with his family present and donning aprons, took already clean dishes, then soaped them up and washed them for the cameras as if he was really contributing.

Because there have been so many allegations made about the Romney/Ryan campaign and truth telling, my question is: did Ryan in fact stage his involvement in the clean up of the meal, and to what extent did the press collude with the campaign to make it appear so?

Whereas several outlets published photos of Ryan getting “hands on,” not all indicated the potential misrepresentation. Take the shot above by NBC reporter Alex Moe, for example, who published this photo to Instagram. The caption of her post is technically accurate: “Paul Ryan washes dished at soup kitchen outside Youngstown, OH.” For those who know no better, however, it gives no sense Ryan was washing clean dishes.

More at link:
http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/2012/10...at-ohio-soup-kitchen-and-did-media-enable-it/

Paul Ryan doesn't let anything get in his way of helping the poor, including others having already done the work.

 

[EagleKeeper]

How you want to interpret the picture is up to you.

I see him rinsing off a pan.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Obama the Pizza guy.

Oh, regarding lies, how has Obama held ATT accountable as he said he would by having Justice stand against them being held accountable?

This should be a good one.

It isn't that Ryan does not lie, but that you embrace the other liar in his place.

 

[Todd33]

I find it funny, he gets there late, everyone is fed and dishes are washed. So he puts some suds on clean dishes and rinses them off for a photo opp. LOL worthy politics.

 

[DaveSimmons]

"Government waste: Paul Ryan will spend your tax dollars washing clean dishes"

 

[Schmide]

Don't roll up your sleeves too far, wouldn't want to wrinkle them.

Edit: At least Obama seems to know how to act. (goofy)

 

[waggy]

Of course the "liberal" media remains mostly complicit in the deception.

More at link:
http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/2012/10...at-ohio-soup-kitchen-and-did-media-enable-it/

Paul Ryan doesn't let anything get in his way of helping the poor, including others having already done the work.

both sides do this. shrug

anyone that believes any photo op is legit is insane.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Must be a slow news day.

 

[Matt1970]

Do people really want to keep using the word Lie when refering to a Presidential Candidate? All it reminds me of is 2008 and Obama

 

[BoberFett]

Thread backfire.

 

[blackangst1]

Obama the Pizza guy.

Oh, regarding lies, how has Obama held ATT accountable as he said he would by having Justice stand against them being held accountable?

This should be a good one.

It isn't that Ryan does not lie, but that you embrace the other liar in his place.

:thumbsup:

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

:thumbsup:

Unless they had already eaten and those boxes were empty :thumbsdown:

 

[BoberFett]

Unless they had already eaten and those boxes were empty :thumbsdown:

Do you think he went and picked up the pizzas or did he carry them the last 5 feet for a photo op?

Fail.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Do you think he went and picked up the pizzas or did he carry them the last 5 feet for a photo op?

Fail.

Even if Obama just stood there holding actual pizzas it's more legitimate than what Ryan pretended to do. There was a clear intent not to just manufacture a photo op (which is fine) but to deceive and misrepresent the context in which it was taken (which is not). Though I'm completely unsurprised by those of you who are unwilling or unable to make that distinction.

 

[blackangst1]

Even if Obama just stood there holding actual pizzas it's more legitimate than what Ryan pretended to do. There was a clear intent not to just manufacture a photo op (which is fine) but to deceive and misrepresent the context in which it was taken (which is not). Though I'm completely unsurprised by those of you who are unwilling or unable to make that distinction.

Lets say both are photo ops. Obama picks up a stack of empty pizza boxes then *click* to appear as though he's helping the pizza store owner...working alongside the working class. Ryan rinses off an already clean pan then *click* to appear as though he's helping the dishwasher...working alongside the working class.

WTF is the difference exactly?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Even if Obama just stood there holding actual pizzas it's more legitimate than what Ryan pretended to do. There was a clear intent not to just manufacture a photo op (which is fine) but to deceive and misrepresent the context in which it was taken (which is not). Though I'm completely unsurprised by those of you who are unwilling or unable to make that distinction.

I'm completely unsurprised that you are able to make a "distinction" in order to justify villifying Ryan...while giving Obama a pass for doing essentially the same thing.

The rationalization is strong with you. Have you no shame?

 

[buckshot24]

Even if Obama just stood there holding actual pizzas it's more legitimate than what Ryan pretended to do. There was a clear intent not to just manufacture a photo op (which is fine) but to deceive and misrepresent the context in which it was taken (which is not). Though I'm completely unsurprised by those of you who are unwilling or unable to make that distinction.

haha

This is really pathetic.

Assuming Ryan was washing clean dishes and Obama carried the pizza's the last 5 feet, neither of them contributed anything.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

From what Google is telling me, Obama actually did carry the pizza boxes to a campaign event, and that is exactly what the photos available purport. Assuming the article in the op is being truthful, Ryan's case is far more misleading, showing him not only performing an act of greater labor, but merely pretending to perform it as well.

 

[Genx87]

This is what we argue about while both parties erect a massive intruding govt. In a way we deserve the drone strikes that will be coming to us in the coming years.

 

[mchammer187]

Even if Obama did only carry the pizza boxes the last 5 feet I don't think the picture implies he picked them up. He did actually contribute something remotely useful even if it was miniscule.

I think the Ryan pic definitely implies he was cleaning dirty dishes. No soaping up already clean dishes which would be completely retarded.

That said on a scale of 1-10 this registers a 3.

 

[Ns1]

both sides do this. shrug

anyone that believes any photo op is legit is insane.

this

 

[woolfe9999]

Lets say both are photo ops. Obama picks up a stack of empty pizza boxes then *click* to appear as though he's helping the pizza store owner...working alongside the working class. Ryan rinses off an already clean pan then *click* to appear as though he's helping the dishwasher...working alongside the working class.

WTF is the difference exactly?

Uh no. The point of the Obama pizza photo, and I agree it was a photo op, was that his campaign paid for pizzas for the staff of a branch office. It was to show his beneficence toward his campaign workers, by footing the bill for the food. The "delivery" of it was just the symbolic act that represents the fact that his campaign paid for their food. My boss sometimes does this, pays for lunch for the staff, and he will physically take the food from whoever delivers it and bring it to us. He isn't trying to imply that he's doing physical labor. He's trying to take credit for paying for it.

It isn't really anything to get excited about. In fact, it's pretty nonsensical. It isn't, however, misleading. Unless you really think the whole point of it was to give the impression that he literally did the physical work of delivering the pizza the entire way. You'd have to be a fool to draw that conclusion. The Ryan photo, OTOH, does in fact imply that he did this physical work. I would assume he did if I didn't know otherwise.

 

[Thump553]

Pretty conclusive proof that the teabagger leadership is absolutely no different from any other ward heeler politician, right down to the 100% bogus photo ops.

BTW the Obama pizza situation was different. When I saw it on TV, it was billed as him taking a break from debate prep to pop in at a volunteer office. Nothing was said or implied about him waiting in line to order and pick up the pizzas, to assume the photo implies as much is pretty absurd.

OTOH I certainly wouldn't equate the "lie" of this stage dishwashing to the numerous outright factual lies Ryan regularly makes in his speeches.

 

[Ryan]

Paul Ryan - the next Vladimir Putin:

 

[ichy]

both sides do this. shrug

anyone that believes any photo op is legit is insane.

+1