PAYDAY! US Airways Flight 1549 passengers get $5,000 each

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: ducci
So $5000 is the current going rate for shitting yourself in public?

Not bad.

5K MIGHT just barely cover the co-paays for the cardiac ICU I'd have needed if I was on that plane.

 

[Tiamat]

I am just curious about this: Do you think this 5k$ check voids any sort of home owner's insurance or renter's insurance or any other kind of insurance that would normally step in and help the people with a check for their lost items (minus deductibles).

I'm thinking the passengers would be able to take advantage of both checks from insurance companies and the airline, but I'm not sure.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Tiamat
I am just curious about this: Do you think this 5k$ check voids any sort of home owner's insurance or renter's insurance or any other kind of insurance that would normally step in and help the people with a check for their lost items (minus deductibles).

I'm thinking the passengers would be able to take advantage of both checks from insurance companies and the airline, but I'm not sure.

I would think it would void partially. Anyone here a lawyer and comment better on this? From what i learned, is an insurance is designed to compensate you fully and not let you get more then what you lost. The only exception to this rule is life insurance. So basically anything they get from airline they will be subtracted from insurance payment

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Tiamat
I am just curious about this: Do you think this 5k$ check voids any sort of home owner's insurance or renter's insurance or any other kind of insurance that would normally step in and help the people with a check for their lost items (minus deductibles).

I'm thinking the passengers would be able to take advantage of both checks from insurance companies and the airline, but I'm not sure.

I would think it would void partially. Anyone here a lawyer and comment better on this? From what i learned, is an insurance is designed to compensate you fully and not let you get more then what you lost. The only exception to this rule is life insurance. So basically anything they get from airline they will be subtracted from insurance payment

I'm not a lawyer, but I'd imagine that filing an insurance claim for something that you've already been compensated for would be insurance fraud.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: jagec
Payday for some, a pittance for others. Then again, that's what travel insurance is for; if your possessions and time are worth that much, get the insurance...it's dirt cheap.

I'd say that this is more generous than the airline has to be, so good for them.

Originally posted by: JEDI
DO NOT CASH THOSE CHECKS! it might mean you accept it as total compensation, and release US Air from responsibility

US Air is NOT responsible, there was no negligence, it was a simple accident, and IMHO anyone who sues should have their citizenship instantly revoked and be shipped to the delta region of Nigeria to begin their new life. You took a risk by not getting insurance, and your number came up. Tough titty. You're lucky to be alive.

You know that they will be sued and people are not required to get insurance. Sorry but this is reality in today world.

If they start requiring people to buy insurance because of cases like this I'll be pissed. Considering that the government rewards corporate risk-taking behavior with public money, it would be unthinkable to not even allow the public to determine what level of risk they are comfortable with on a personal level.

You had the choice to buy insurance, if you freely chose not to, you are responsible for replacing whatever insurance might otherwise have covered. The extra money in your pocket from all of those other times you did not buy insurance should be a good start.

But this is the land of privatized gains and socialized losses, eh?

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Also it's pretty much a given not to bring stuff like laptops at an airport. Chances are it will get confiscated anyway. Even water bottles are frowned upon I can't imagine electronics.

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Never been on a plane

...

Then again guess it depends on the airport too and how big it is. The big ones are probably the ones that are really bad to go through. Everyone is treated like criminals etc.

Dude....if you have no idea what you are talking about, just shut up.😉

 

[erub]

Most decent credit cards have lost/delayed baggage coverage, and possibly some sort of trip insurance. Would be interesting to file because technically it isn't "lost"..probably depends on CSR you get. Don't know the exact details, but I am big fans of VISA's extended warranty service (free money 😛)

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: jagec
Payday for some, a pittance for others. Then again, that's what travel insurance is for; if your possessions and time are worth that much, get the insurance...it's dirt cheap.

I'd say that this is more generous than the airline has to be, so good for them.

Originally posted by: JEDI
DO NOT CASH THOSE CHECKS! it might mean you accept it as total compensation, and release US Air from responsibility

US Air is NOT responsible, there was no negligence, it was a simple accident, and IMHO anyone who sues should have their citizenship instantly revoked and be shipped to the delta region of Nigeria to begin their new life. You took a risk by not getting insurance, and your number came up. Tough titty. You're lucky to be alive.

Yeah I'll admit I'm usually a dick but this was in no way any responsbility should fall on US Air. It's akin to suing the maker of your automobile in a crash.

 

[Deviant Grasshopper]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Never been on a plane (always wanted to mind you) but I've head a handfull of horror stories how the security check points are like. Had a friend who is in a wheel chair go. They actually take the whole chair apart to search the tubing for bombs (dynamite sticks? lol). Then again guess it depends on the airport too and how big it is. The big ones are probably the ones that are really bad to go through. Everyone is treated like criminals etc.

This is completely false. I have a very good friend who is in a chair and they apparently waved him on through. I think they looked in his bag, but definitely did not even ask to disassemble his chair. They have separate lines for situations like that.

If you follow the VERY simple (and IMO common sense) rules you should be fine. If you bring a 1 gallon bottle of shampoo on board then they'll make you throw it away. No chainsaws, carry-on must be a certain size, etc.

 

[Deviant Grasshopper]

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: jagec
Payday for some, a pittance for others. Then again, that's what travel insurance is for; if your possessions and time are worth that much, get the insurance...it's dirt cheap.

I'd say that this is more generous than the airline has to be, so good for them.

Originally posted by: JEDI
DO NOT CASH THOSE CHECKS! it might mean you accept it as total compensation, and release US Air from responsibility

US Air is NOT responsible, there was no negligence, it was a simple accident, and IMHO anyone who sues should have their citizenship instantly revoked and be shipped to the delta region of Nigeria to begin their new life. You took a risk by not getting insurance, and your number came up. Tough titty. You're lucky to be alive.

Yeah I'll admit I'm usually a dick but this was in no way any responsbility should fall on US Air. It's akin to suing the maker of your automobile in a crash.

Do they know what caused it to crash? It could very well be US Air's fault..

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Deviant Grasshopper
If you follow the VERY simple (and IMO common sense) rules you should be fine.

I think we have very different opinions on what constitutes "common sense".

 

[compuwiz1]

I think US Air is being very fair and resonable. Sadly, there will be some blood thirsty attorney who will think they need to pay eleventy billion dollars for stress, anxiety, pain and suffering, near death, loss of time, baggage and whatever else he can pull out of his ass. In the end, and I hope I'm wrong, US Air may find that no good deed goes unpunished.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
uh 5K goes like that for a lot of people.

just one any given business trip i may have 3k in camera gear and 1k in a laptop. that's without the cost of the luggage itself or clothes, shoes, my zune was 220 bucks, my $300 UE triple fi's attached to the zune, my $100 surefire e2L, etc, etc, etc - shit a fuckin bottle of cologne costs at least 40 bucks and i bring one with me on any trip, business or pleasure.

my co-worker travels with a mini pc projector that is over 1k, and a camera body that by itself costs 2k, sans lens - plus a laptop. on every business trip. before anything personal.

im not saying everyone should sue the piss out of us airways, but to make comments like these people getting 5k all made out like bandits is fucking asinine.

if it aint camera gear, it easily could be something else. women may have a few very expensive pairs of shoes and a purse or two. there are a zillion reasons why a substantial number of passneger travel with over 5k in stuff.

not everyone dresses up at old navy. im not like that casio guy that spends 200 bucks on jeans, but i have enough jeans that are 40-60 bucks, etc..

Sorry, but US air was not at fault for this. Why should they pay? There's no negligence. It would be like renting a car, a deer runs out in front of you and you hit it you don't sue the rental company. It's not the rental company's fault, it's just a risk of driving. If you were worried about it you should pay for the insurance. When you chose to travel with high priced equipment it is your responsibility. Most airlines even have published policies on how much they'll reimburse. If you want any more protection than they offer that's up to you to purchase.

People need to stop trying to point fingers and just realize that there is inherent risk to certain actions. Getting in a plane has some inherent risks, as does walking out the door in the morning. By getting on the plane you have to assume the natural risks. That's not to say that I'm condoning negligence. People still need to be careful and do their jobs, but sooner or later a freak occurrence is going to happen.

Americans need to shut up and stop pointing fingers. Crap happens. Man up and deal with it.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
uh 5K goes like that for a lot of people.

just one any given business trip i may have 3k in camera gear and 1k in a laptop. that's without the cost of the luggage itself or clothes, shoes, my zune was 220 bucks, my $300 UE triple fi's attached to the zune, my $100 surefire e2L, etc, etc, etc - shit a fuckin bottle of cologne costs at least 40 bucks and i bring one with me on any trip, business or pleasure.

my co-worker travels with a mini pc projector that is over 1k, and a camera body that by itself costs 2k, sans lens - plus a laptop. on every business trip. before anything personal.

im not saying everyone should sue the piss out of us airways, but to make comments like these people getting 5k all made out like bandits is fucking asinine.

if it aint camera gear, it easily could be something else. women may have a few very expensive pairs of shoes and a purse or two. there are a zillion reasons why a substantial number of passneger travel with over 5k in stuff.

not everyone dresses up at old navy. im not like that casio guy that spends 200 bucks on jeans, but i have enough jeans that are 40-60 bucks, etc..

Sorry, but US air was not at fault for this. Why should they pay? There's no negligence. It would be like renting a car, a deer runs out in front of you and you hit it you don't sue the rental company. It's not the rental company's fault, it's just a risk of driving. If you were worried about it you should pay for the insurance. When you chose to travel with high priced equipment it is your responsibility. Most airlines even have published policies on how much they'll reimburse. If you want any more protection than they offer that's up to you to purchase.

People need to stop trying to point fingers and just realize that there is inherent risk to certain actions. Getting in a plane has some inherent risks, as does walking out the door in the morning. By getting on the plane you have to assume the natural risks. That's not to say that I'm condoning negligence. People still need to be careful and do their jobs, but sooner or later a freak occurrence is going to happen.

Americans need to shut up and stop pointing fingers. Crap happens. Man up and deal with it.

Welcome to America justice system, compuwiz1 is right. I am sure sooner then latter we will have lawsuit being filed. I am actually surprised that no lawsuit been filed yet, and expect one to be filed soon.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Great, compensate the people who lived, but what are they doing for the families of the birds that died?

why give money to terrorists?

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: looker001
Welcome to America justice system, compuwiz1 is right. I am sure sooner then latter we will have lawsuit being filed. I am actually surprised that no lawsuit been filed yet, and expect one to be filed soon.

And the judge should laugh and throw it out, or make it clear that the winner of the case will have their costs covered by the loser. If people know they're on the hook for a possible $100k+ legal defense they may think twice about a lawsuit.

 

[ProfJohn]

On my last flight I had:

MacBook $1200
Nikon DSLR $1200
500mm lens $800
Wide angle lens $500
300mm lens $400
Flash $200

so $4300 right there, plus clothes and all my lost data.
That would be the real bitch. Imagine flying home from a week in NYC with all your photos and lose them all.

I am sure that people who can prove that they had highly valuable stuff on board will get more money down the road.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: looker001
Welcome to America justice system, compuwiz1 is right. I am sure sooner then latter we will have lawsuit being filed. I am actually surprised that no lawsuit been filed yet, and expect one to be filed soon.

And the judge should laugh and throw it out, or make it clear that the winner of the case will have their costs covered by the loser. If people know they're on the hook for a possible $100k+ legal defense they may think twice about a lawsuit.

Maybe our court system will be like this in 100 years but for now it don't work that way.

 

[chuckywang]

Why is US Airways paying anything? From what I've heard, this was a freak accident and in no way US Airways fault.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
On my last flight I had:

MacBook $1200
Nikon DSLR $1200
500mm lens $800
Wide angle lens $500
300mm lens $400
Flash $200

so $4300 right there, plus clothes and all my lost data.
That would be the real bitch. Imagine flying home from a week in NYC with all your photos and lose them all.

I am sure that people who can prove that they had highly valuable stuff on board will get more money down the road.

Still being alive after a plane wreck, priceless. I don't think I'd be worrying much about my data or electronics.

 

[911paramedic]

Airports regularly clear out any birds that are near the runways, either with loud noises or sometimes falcons. If it was found that the airport wasn't taking such precautions lawsuits will be in order.

On a side note, I think it was a fantastic job by the pilot, crew, and everybody on board. I just hope the guy that sustained two broken legs has a private room and a hot nurse.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Deviant Grasshopper

Do they know what caused it to crash? It could very well be US Air's fault..

Yes. Birds sucked into the engines caused them to fail. Passenger jets make very poor gliders.

Originally posted by: Bignate603
Sorry, but US air was not at fault for this. Why should they pay? There's no negligence. It would be like renting a car, a deer runs out in front of you and you hit it you don't sue the rental company. It's not the rental company's fault, it's just a risk of driving. If you were worried about it you should pay for the insurance. When you chose to travel with high priced equipment it is your responsibility. Most airlines even have published policies on how much they'll reimburse. If you want any more protection than they offer that's up to you to purchase.

People need to stop trying to point fingers and just realize that there is inherent risk to certain actions. Getting in a plane has some inherent risks, as does walking out the door in the morning. By getting on the plane you have to assume the natural risks. That's not to say that I'm condoning negligence. People still need to be careful and do their jobs, but sooner or later a freak occurrence is going to happen.

Americans need to shut up and stop pointing fingers. Crap happens. Man up and deal with it.

If I run for president, will you be my VP?

 

[IamElectro]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Deviant Grasshopper

Do they know what caused it to crash? It could very well be US Air's fault..

Yes. Birds sucked into the engines caused them to fail. Passenger jets make very poor gliders.

Originally posted by: Bignate603
Sorry, but US air was not at fault for this. Why should they pay? There's no negligence. It would be like renting a car, a deer runs out in front of you and you hit it you don't sue the rental company. It's not the rental company's fault, it's just a risk of driving. If you were worried about it you should pay for the insurance. When you chose to travel with high priced equipment it is your responsibility. Most airlines even have published policies on how much they'll reimburse. If you want any more protection than they offer that's up to you to purchase.

People need to stop trying to point fingers and just realize that there is inherent risk to certain actions. Getting in a plane has some inherent risks, as does walking out the door in the morning. By getting on the plane you have to assume the natural risks. That's not to say that I'm condoning negligence. People still need to be careful and do their jobs, but sooner or later a freak occurrence is going to happen.

Americans need to shut up and stop pointing fingers. Crap happens. Man up and deal with it.

If I run for president, will you be my VP?

I read this a few days back.
WSJ Blog

Sounds like a hard sell for.

 

[sportage]

How bout some peanut packs tossed in too?

If they have to sign something to get the 5$$$, I bet its a legal
"I will not sue" thing. Sounds fishy to me.

 

[SSSnail]

This is why I travel naked, I usually make out like a bandit on plane crashes.