Payday 2

Nemesis13

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Awesome I would rather play with a group, mybe we can get a Anand crew going.
 

WiseUp216

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Played a few hours during the beta and a little bit today.

I think they improved on all aspects that made the original a fun game. I would recommend it, especially to anyone who liked the first one.

I can't really think of any other heist games to compare it to.
 

Clemenza

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Bought and played it with my crew last night. It's a lot of fun and takes some teamwork. It's always an awesome feeling when the masks go on and everyone goes to work.
 

Nemesis13

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I played for about 3 hours last night. I find the community pretty good for the most part, the occasional dick that just goes loud every mission is annoying.
 

Red Storm

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My friends and I played the first one, but we never finished it. We're gonna wait for this to get down to ~$5 then we'll buy.
 

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Can this be played with a controller and does it have splitscreen co-op? My wife and I love playing L4D2 using the HTPC and xbox 360 contollers and are looking for another co-op splitscreen game. This sounds pretty fun but I don't think it would suit her playstyle if no controller support.

Yes I know KB/M is the standard answer but that isn't what I am asking...
 

WiseUp216

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Can this be played with a controller and does it have splitscreen co-op? My wife and I love playing L4D2 using the HTPC and xbox 360 contollers and are looking for another co-op splitscreen game. This sounds pretty fun but I don't think it would suit her playstyle if no controller support.

Yes I know KB/M is the standard answer but that isn't what I am asking...

Yes, xbox controllers are supported.
 

Nemesis13

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Can this be played with a controller and does it have splitscreen co-op? My wife and I love playing L4D2 using the HTPC and xbox 360 contollers and are looking for another co-op splitscreen game. This sounds pretty fun but I don't think it would suit her playstyle if no controller support.

Yes I know KB/M is the standard answer but that isn't what I am asking...


I use the 360 controller, i ran into a problem last night with it. Make sure the remote is plugged in before booting the game it will not recognize it if you plug it in after the game is booted. As far as split screen, i dont think so.
 

Dankk

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Payday 2 is badass. I, too, would like to join a crew of AT guys to pull off some stealth heists. Add me: http://steamcommunity.com/id/dankhagen

is this more or less the same shit as 1? is it on a new engine?

It's similar to the first one, but with less focus on mass-slaughter and more focus on strategy, stealth, and teamwork. There's more randomization involved too so things are kept fresh. I think there's also like 30(!) heists available in the vanilla game.

Not sure if it runs on a new engine or not, but it is a graphical improvement.
 

Rinaun

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Joined. Hit me up anytime for some games, as long as you aren't completely fresh/new.
 

PrincessFrosty

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I pre ordered this and played in the beta.

Honestly, in game it's very much like Payday 1, which is to say quite fun to play and intense.

But the game comes with one of the most, scratch that, THE most, retarded leveling system I think I've ever seen. The whole way of unlocking weapons, gaining skills, skill distributions and the arbitrary limits that impose unnecessary restrictions on the players customization...it's awful, it's truly awful.

I decided not to play it, the whole meta game is an exercise is frustration and I'd happily refer to it as completely broken, not fit for purpose.
 

gorobei

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Payday 2 is badass. I, too, would like to join a crew of AT guys to pull off some stealth heists. Add me: http://steamcommunity.com/id/dankhagen



It's similar to the first one, but with less focus on mass-slaughter and more focus on strategy, stealth, and teamwork. There's more randomization involved too so things are kept fresh. I think there's also like 30(!) heists available in the vanilla game.

Not sure if it runs on a new engine or not, but it is a graphical improvement.

i watched some of the videos and devdiary, it certainly looks better than the first one. it seems like they need to work on increasing the amount of animation for the actions(lock pick/body bagging/etc) in order for your current status to be clearer to the player. most of them just seem too simplified into a timer circle graphic, which i understand is there so you can see the rest of your crew's status but still shouldnt be such an instant effect.
the different class types look impressive. too bad there isnt a wheelman option.

i'd love to see a MMO open world version where you go about an entire city and do the prep work to set up the heist(small robberies to fund the expensive equipment, bribing inside informants, sabotaging communications, scoping the joint beforehand, stealing gettaway cars, setting up safehouses).
 

WiseUp216

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I pre ordered this and played in the beta.

Honestly, in game it's very much like Payday 1, which is to say quite fun to play and intense.

But the game comes with one of the most, scratch that, THE most, retarded leveling system I think I've ever seen. The whole way of unlocking weapons, gaining skills, skill distributions and the arbitrary limits that impose unnecessary restrictions on the players customization...it's awful, it's truly awful.

I decided not to play it, the whole meta game is an exercise is frustration and I'd happily refer to it as completely broken, not fit for purpose.


Yep, that is my one complaint, as well. The ratio of spending money to offshore money is ridiculous. It will take way, way too long to work your way through the weapon unlock system.

The gameplay is fun enough for me to continue playing, though. The early unlocks like the AK-47 and revolver are working well enough.
 

PrincessFrosty

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Yep, that is my one complaint, as well. The ratio of spending money to offshore money is ridiculous. It will take way, way too long to work your way through the weapon unlock system.

What is worse are the facts that:

Weapons upgrades aren't just a matter of preference, some are demonstrably better than others and required for harder difficulty.

There's significantly more weapons than slots you can equip them in, when you put a weapon into one of your slots you have to "buy" it, which means cycling out weapons + all the attachments costs an absolute fortune (many in game hours of work)

The different classes are better suited to different weapons as they get specific bonuses with them, if you spec into one class and give yourself a tuned loadout. But your loadout isn't specific to the class you're playing you just have a fixed inventory size to accommodate all classes, so if you hop between various classes you'll need to get rid of some of your guns and then buy the same guns again, buy all the attachments again.

In game in any other difficulty that easiest, requires you to work as a team in the same kind of respect an MMO dungeon does, there's not enough skill points for everyone to be good at everything needed for the missions, so you ideally take 1 of each class and support each other.

Except if everyone is spec'd in one class, and swapping classes is expensive, people can't just do it easily on the fly, there's no saving of class configurations or inventory loadout, which means that you have to fuck about re-specing your entire character, potentially just for one game.

You can't respec ANY of this from the lobby.

The unlocks you get are random, if you're a ghost and you want to spec silencers and attachments that decrease visibility of weapons, guess what you better get lucky and roll a 1 on a D500 dice otherwise you're screwed.

The cost of everything is at least 2x more expensive than it should be.

The entire system is a complete joke, whoever thought it up is an idiot, there's simply no polite way to say that.
 

Red Storm

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Do you still massacre an entire county's worth of police force as you do in the first game? That part always seemed odd to me.
 

Dankk

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Do you still massacre an entire county's worth of police force as you do in the first game? That part always seemed odd to me.

As I mentioned above, no, you don't. You still shoot a lot of cops, but not crazy hordes of them like in Payday 1.
 

PrincessFrosty

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Do you still massacre an entire county's worth of police force as you do in the first game? That part always seemed odd to me.

Yeah you do, it gets seriously insane later on. (on harder difficulty settings)

However this time around many of the missions can be entirely stealthed if you're on the ball and capable of keeping the civilians under control and manage to disable security cameras and disable guard pagers etc.

That sort of thing really needs cooperation between 4 well kitted out players with high or max skills, which is where the skill system will basically dick you over.

I think me and a friend did the jewelry store heist in about 30 seconds between 2 of us on hardest once I'd unlocked the ability sprint like crazy and he'd unlocked the ability to intimidate the hostages faster.

We were going to farm that for money but they dont let you pick your mission you have to go through this stupid system which gives you random missions, another completely retarded part to this game *rollseyes*