Pay No Taxes!!!???

Viper GTS

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If you're stupid enough to believe it, you'd be an excellent candidate to try it.

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SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Dznuts007
Recently read an article about a book that states that we are not required to pay income taxes since it is a "voluntary"

"The Federal Mafia" by Irwin Schiff

First Chapter Of The Book

What do you think?

I think it's voluntary to pay taxes. But if you don't volunteer, you go to jail :D
 

Mallow

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Maybe state income tax is a volunteer thing? State is very different from Federal income tax. Trust me, try this out and you will probably lose your house :p
 

DaveSimmons

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scam and repost (though other 1-2 threads may have been for different "pay no taxes" scams).
 

Dznuts007

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Hah hah...you guys act as if I believe in this and want to try it. Just wanna see if anyone knows about it...

No need to worry guys...I don't have a house so they can't take it away from me!!!
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Dznuts007
Hah hah...you guys act as if I believe in this and want to try it. Just wanna see if anyone knows about it...

No need to worry guys...I don't have a house so they can't take it away from me!!!

I think losing a house would be relatively low on your list of concerns, I'd be much more pissed about the damage to my sphincter.

Viper GTS
 

GroundZero

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Originally posted by: Dznuts007
Recently read an article about a book that states that we are not required to pay income taxes since it is a "voluntary"

"The Federal Mafia" by Irwin Schiff

First Chapter Of The Book

What do you think?

the people that have been selling thios book you refer to are under federal arrest right now and are looking at a long time in jail...

 

TwinkleToes77

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There was actually a 20/20 or dateline or primetime or 48hours.. or one of those shows about it.. and they stated that it is voluntary to pay taxes.. but if you dont voluntarily do so.. they will make you :) and they showed ppl who wrote such books and tried to do it in jail for it.
 

lowtech1

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It is a crime that we have to pay taxes to the "government" (organize crime), however there are a few ocupations such as selling drugs, hitman, and postitution doesn't have to pay taxes.
 

Ylen13

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Originally posted by: Dznuts007
Recently read an article about a book that states that we are not required to pay income taxes since it is a "voluntary"

"The Federal Mafia" by Irwin Schiff

First Chapter Of The Book

What do you think?

No tax? Read constitution, 16 amendment give congress right to imposes tax
 

Three quotes from the first chapter:

"The IRS' primary task is to collect taxes under a voluntary compliance system." (emphasis added)
- Jerome Kurtz
Internal Revenue Annual Report, 1980


"Our tax system is based on individual self­-assessment and voluntary compliance." (emphasis added)
- Mortimer Caplin
Internal Revenue Audit Manual, 1975


"Each year American taxpayers voluntarily file their tax returns and make a special effort to pay the taxes they owe." (emphasis added)
-Johnnie M. Walters
Internal Revenue 1040 Booklet, 1971

This means that you (under your own will and power) fill out your 1040s every year. It doesn't mean you don't have to file taxes...it means that the government doesn't come knocking at your door and ask to rifle through your receipts and papers. You are LAWFULLY required, as an income earner in the United States, to file a tax return. It's your obligation, and you are expected to voluntarily comply. If you don't, you'll be charged with fraud.

This author is an idiot.
 

Dznuts007

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Originally posted by: lowtech
It is a crime that we have to pay taxes to the "government" (organize crime), however there are a few ocupations such as selling drugs, hitman, and postitution doesn't have to pay taxes.

Hmmm. I sell drugs but I still pay taxes...
 

GroundZero

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Originally posted by: lowtech
It is a crime that we have to pay taxes to the "government" (organize crime), however there are a few ocupations such as selling drugs, hitman, and postitution doesn't have to pay taxes.

by law you are still supposed to pay taxes on illegal income...
remember what they arrested and convicted al capone for, tax evasion...

check out this

tax stamps for pot
 

GermyBoy

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Three quotes from the first chapter:
"The IRS' primary task is to collect taxes under a voluntary compliance system." (emphasis added) - Jerome Kurtz Internal Revenue Annual Report, 1980 "Our tax system is based on individual self­-assessment and voluntary compliance." (emphasis added) - Mortimer Caplin Internal Revenue Audit Manual, 1975 "Each year American taxpayers voluntarily file their tax returns and make a special effort to pay the taxes they owe." (emphasis added) -Johnnie M. Walters Internal Revenue 1040 Booklet, 1971
This means that you (under your own will and power) fill out your 1040s every year. It doesn't mean you don't have to file taxes...it means that the government doesn't come knocking at your door and ask to rifle through your receipts and papers. You are LAWFULLY required, as an income earner in the United States, to file a tax return. It's your obligation, and you are expected to voluntarily comply. If you don't, you'll be charged with fraud. This author is an idiot.

May be an idiot, but they definately are on the right track. NO TAXES, cause they suck. I am still looking for place on-line where I get the forms for my taxes. LOL. Better get moving on that.
 

911paramedic

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His office here in Vegas got raided a few months ago and they confiscated everything. Not a very good sign.