Paula Zahn transcript...(regarding Dean)

Gaard

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ZAHN: Final question for you, sir. Your candidate, Governor Dean, has made several references to -- about President Bush having alleged advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks from the Saudis. Should someone who wants to be president be trading on rumors?

TRIPPI: That's not what the governor said at all. In fact, you're trading on rumors when you keep saying that.

ZAHN: I haven't said it yet. I'm just repeating what...

TRIPPI: Yes, you're repeating the rumor.

Yes, what happened was the governor said that, when the president and the administration mislead people in the war and the American people start asking questions, there's these rumors out there and that we need to talk about them to shut them down, because he didn't believe it. And he said that on the air in the interview.

ZAHN: But there was another interview on NPR that has gotten a lot of attention, where he basically said, you know, whether this can be proven or not, he suggested that the president had had advance knowledge of what might unfold on 9/11.

TRIPPI: No.

No, the governor said he didn't believe that and that it was part of the problem. We have this right now with black-box voting. You'll find across the country that there are people all over this nation who believe these paperless computer voting machines are a way that the Bush administration will steal the election, OK? What's not important here is whether that's a rumor or not.

What's important here is that we shut that down, that we prove to people that there's no way that anybody -- that these paperless machines are going to rob people of their vote.

ZAHN: All right.

TRIPPI: Repeating that is not repeating that you believe it. I don't necessarily believe that those machines do that or not.

But if we're going to have a democracy, we have to say so and air it out.

ZAHN: Let me just repeat exactly what came off the transcript of the NPR radio show. And this is Governor Dean's remark -- quote -- "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far," he responded -- quote -- "is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis."

TRIPPI: And then can you keep reading, please?

ZAHN: Well, I could go on for the next five minutes for the interview, but you were saying that he didn't say that. I've got it right here.

TRIPPI: No, no, no. I said that -- if you keep reading, you'll say he said he didn't believe that.

ZAHN: Yes, there is a point at which -- but you were denying that he had suggested...

TRIPPI: You're forgetting that part, Paula.

ZAHN: No, I'm not forgetting it.

TRIPPI: Keep reading there.

ZAHN: I just wanted to clarify that he had, in fact, repeated something. And he did say later on...

TRIPPI: Could you keep reading the interview and you'll get to the part where he says he did not believe it.

ZAHN: No, I am not denying that, but I wanted to challenge

TRIPPI: OK, well, that's not how you started the interview.

ZAHN: Well, I think our audience has a pretty good sense now of what was said and what wasn't said. And, Joe Trippi, thank you for your time.



From Paula's Unofficial website...
"Paula Zahn is a national award winning journalist with a genuine quality that inspires public trust and guarantees journalistic integrity."
 

Compton

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I guess CNN told her to pretend like she was still on FNC. They need to do something to get ratings up.
 

smashp

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selective Quoting out of Context.

Journalist all over america are Selling off integrity for Ratings.


They dont care about Being Acurate or "Independent" anymore.

They only care about ratings.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: smashp
selective Quoting out of Context.

Journalist all over america are Selling off integrity for Ratings.


They dont care about Being Acurate or "Independent" anymore.

They only care about ratings.

The shoe fits "Communist News Network" and "Faux Fox News".


 

Compton

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Originally posted by: smashp
selective Quoting out of Context.

Journalist all over america are Selling off integrity for Ratings.


They dont care about Being Acurate or "Independent" anymore.

They only care about ratings.

Try to spell accurate accurately. She wasn't quoting out of context. Dean and Clark have been trading in rumors.

Believe that, player.

If you want to talk about quoting out of context, go check out the State of the Union address and learn what Bush really said about uranium.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: Compton
Originally posted by: smashp
selective Quoting out of Context.

Journalist all over america are Selling off integrity for Ratings.


They dont care about Being Acurate or "Independent" anymore.

They only care about ratings.

Try to spell accurate accurately. She wasn't quoting out of context. Dean and Clark have been trading in rumors.

Believe that, player.

If you want to talk about quoting out of context, go check out the State of the Union address and learn what Bush really said about uranium.

Yes she was.

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Compton
If you want to talk about quoting out of context, go check out the State of the Union address and learn what Bush really said about uranium.
You mean the part where Bush-lite tried to hide behind the Brits to spread the lie about Iraq buying uranium? That Bush didn't provide the context that we knew the rumour was false for almost a year? That Bush didn't provide the context that repeating this lie was a cynical tactic to manipulate the American public through fear-mongering?

Is that the taking out of context you mean?



 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Compton
If you want to talk about quoting out of context, go check out the State of the Union address and learn what Bush really said about uranium.
You mean the part where Bush-lite tried to hide behind the Brits to spread the lie about Iraq buying uranium? That Bush didn't provide the context that we knew the rumour was false for almost a year? That Bush didn't provide the context that repeating this lie was a cynical tactic to manipulate the American public through fear-mongering?

Is that the taking out of context you mean?

No, no lie. I believe there was a part where he said it was British intelligence, but maybe I didn't hear/read correctly;). Oh, and BTW - I never did hear them retract their staunch denial that it was false, everything I heard was that the Brits still stood by that intelligence.

But yeah Compton - they love to try to make it look like Bush said something but conveniently forget that he did preface things with "our intelligence indicates" or "the UN has..." - but I guess those parts don't matter.;) We've been fighting them all summer/Fall/Winter about these sorts of things. They have it stuck in their craw that Bush is evil and that he lied just to go to war. Whatever - they can live in whatever world they want to create for themselves.:)

CkG
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
No, no lie. I believe there was a part where he said it was British intelligence,
Yeah, I said that already. Read all the words.


... but maybe I didn't hear/read correctly;). Oh, and BTW - I never did hear them retract their staunch denial that it was false, everything I heard was that the Brits still stood by that intelligence.
Actually, you have heard otherwise. You simply choose to ignore anything with which you disagree.


(PS. Good morning, Cad. :sun::) )
 

mfs378

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Compton
If you want to talk about quoting out of context, go check out the State of the Union address and learn what Bush really said about uranium.
You mean the part where Bush-lite tried to hide behind the Brits to spread the lie about Iraq buying uranium? That Bush didn't provide the context that we knew the rumour was false for almost a year? That Bush didn't provide the context that repeating this lie was a cynical tactic to manipulate the American public through fear-mongering?

Is that the taking out of context you mean?

No, no lie. I believe there was a part where he said it was British intelligence, but maybe I didn't hear/read correctly;). Oh, and BTW - I never did hear them retract their staunch denial that it was false, everything I heard was that the Brits still stood by that intelligence.

But yeah Compton - they love to try to make it look like Bush said something but conveniently forget that he did preface things with "our intelligence indicates" or "the UN has..." - but I guess those parts don't matter.;) We've been fighting them all summer/Fall/Winter about these sorts of things. They have it stuck in their craw that Bush is evil and that he lied just to go to war. Whatever - they can live in whatever world they want to create for themselves.:)

CkG

You're living in a dream world.
 

mfs378

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The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

The CIA removed those words from the speach, the administration put them back in. Colin Powell called the alegations 'bullsh!t.' Dick Cheney personally sent Joseph C. Wilson, Acting Ambassador to Iraq under Bush Senior, to check out the allegation, and Ambassador Wilson reported back that the claim was completely "bogus."
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: mfs378

You're living in a dream world.

That's nice.:) Have something to say? Do you challenge the fact that Bush's 16 words were(and continue to be) taken out of context?

dean made his own bed with this "conspiracy" 9/11 thing. If he really didn't believe it - why even say something about it? Why did he say it was "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far"? Wouldn't someone who doesn't believe it say - "One of the wildest conspiracy theories that I have heard so far..."? Why is it "interesting" instead of "wild"?
Granted I think this whole thing has been blown a little out of proportion - dean shouldn't have even said it in the first place....if he really doesn't/didn't believe it. Putting forth conspiracy theories when you are trying to win an election - especially a Presidential one - demands a higher standard of discourse. But then again - judging by this forum - people actually believe what dean talked about.:p

CkG

PS - GM Bow - you'll soon have free reign over the forum - I have much to do today;)
 

mfs378

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Read my second post.

Those 16 words stand pretty well on their own. Why don't you post what you think is neccesary for me to get the whole picture?
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: mfs378
Do you challenge the fact that Bush's 16 words were(and continue to be) taken out of context?
Yes I did.


dean made his own bed with this "conspiracy" 9/11 thing. If he really didn't believe it - why even say something about it? Why did he say it was "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far"? Wouldn't someone who doesn't believe it say - "One of the wildest conspiracy theories that I have heard so far..."? Why is it "interesting" instead of "wild"?
"Interesting" is a word used by someone who is intellectual, open-minded, and non-judgmental. Such a person prefers to refute a theory through analysis and fact rather than name-calling.

"Wild" is name-calling.


PS - GM Bow - you'll soon have free reign over the forum - I have much to do today;)
I hear that.
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: Compton
Originally posted by: smashp
selective Quoting out of Context.

Journalist all over america are Selling off integrity for Ratings.


They dont care about Being Acurate or "Independent" anymore.

They only care about ratings.

Try to spell accurate accurately. She wasn't quoting out of context. Dean and Clark have been trading in rumors.

Believe that, player.

If you want to talk about quoting out of context, go check out the State of the Union address and learn what Bush really said about uranium.

So when the press takes Democrats' quotes out of context, its actually the particular Democrat who's at fault. When the press takes a Republican's quote out of context, its the press's fault.

Believe that, player.
 

Moonbeam

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Caddy: "dean made his own bed with this "conspiracy" 9/11 thing. If he really didn't believe it - why even say something about it? Why did he say it was "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far"? Wouldn't someone who doesn't believe it say - "One of the wildest conspiracy theories that I have heard so far..."? Why is it "interesting" instead of "wild"?
Granted I think this whole thing has been blown a little out of proportion - dean shouldn't have even said it in the first place....if he really doesn't/didn't believe it. Putting forth conspiracy theories when you are trying to win an election - especially a Presidential one - demands a higher standard of discourse. But then again - judging by this forum - people actually believe what dean talked about."
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bush made his own bed with this "Iraqi complicity" 9/11 thing. If he really didn't believe it - and the war was really about freeing the Iraqi people from a monster, why didin't he say something about it? Why did he link Saddam and Bin Laden? Because it would sell?

Granted I think this whole thing has been given too little attention - bush shouldn't have even said it in the first place....if he really doesn't/didn't believe it. Putting forth conspiracy theories when you are trying to win an election and go to war- especially a Presidential one and one that kills thousands on innocent people- demands a higher standard of discourse. But then again - judging by this forum - people actually believe what bush talked about which makes them willing accomplices to murder.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: mfs378

You're living in a dream world.

That's nice.:) Have something to say? Do you challenge the fact that Bush's 16 words were(and continue to be) taken out of context?

dean made his own bed with this "conspiracy" 9/11 thing. If he really didn't believe it - why even say something about it? Why did he say it was "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far"? Wouldn't someone who doesn't believe it say - "One of the wildest conspiracy theories that I have heard so far..."? Why is it "interesting" instead of "wild"?
Granted I think this whole thing has been blown a little out of proportion - dean shouldn't have even said it in the first place....if he really doesn't/didn't believe it. Putting forth conspiracy theories when you are trying to win an election - especially a Presidential one - demands a higher standard of discourse. But then again - judging by this forum - people actually believe what dean talked about.:p

CkG

PS - GM Bow - you'll soon have free reign over the forum - I have much to do today;)

Oh c'mon CAD. Because Dean used 'this' word instead of 'that' word, he believes in the theory? Even though he stated seconds later that he didn't believe it?
And this coming from the guy who reminds us of what Bush's exact words were in the SotU address. ;)

 

Compton

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Compton
If you want to talk about quoting out of context, go check out the State of the Union address and learn what Bush really said about uranium.
You mean the part where Bush-lite tried to hide behind the Brits to spread the lie about Iraq buying uranium? That Bush didn't provide the context that we knew the rumour was false for almost a year? That Bush didn't provide the context that repeating this lie was a cynical tactic to manipulate the American public through fear-mongering?

Is that the taking out of context you mean?

No, no lie. I believe there was a part where he said it was British intelligence, but maybe I didn't hear/read correctly;). Oh, and BTW - I never did hear them retract their staunch denial that it was false, everything I heard was that the Brits still stood by that intelligence.

But yeah Compton - they love to try to make it look like Bush said something but conveniently forget that he did preface things with "our intelligence indicates" or "the UN has..." - but I guess those parts don't matter.;) We've been fighting them all summer/Fall/Winter about these sorts of things. They have it stuck in their craw that Bush is evil and that he lied just to go to war. Whatever - they can live in whatever world they want to create for themselves.:)

CkG




:beer:

and Paula was not quoting out of context, she was quoting (there's a difference). Soon, Dean will lose Iowa and he'll never be able to recover.