Pats vs. Colts - your prediction?

[Chaotic42]

Colts by .99999....

Word, bitches.

 

[SSSnail]

Hahaha. Looks like someone needs to eat his words.

LOL, I'm not afraid. But you have to admit, there were a lot of BS going on. And that last catch was well in first down territory, he had both his feet down well beyond the chain and the ball was hugged tightly to his chest before he got knocked back.

 

[akshatp]

LOL, I'm not afraid. But you have to admit, there were a lot of BS going on. And that last catch was well in first down territory, he had both his feet down well beyond the chain and the ball was hugged tightly to his chest before he got knocked back.

It never should have been an issue. Bill should have punted, the loss serves him right.

 

[V00DOO]

Mutha fvcker, I changed the channel with 5 minutes left in the game. I saw the score on ESPN and couldn't believe I missed the ending. FUUUU.

 

[EvilYoda]

My fantasy team was up 26 points going into the game - I had Welker, he had Moss. Before they started burning time on the last possession, I was leading by .44 out of 114 points each, LOL.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

LOL, I'm not afraid. But you have to admit, there were a lot of BS going on. And that last catch was well in first down territory, he had both his feet down well beyond the chain and the ball was hugged tightly to his chest before he got knocked back.

So much for Indy getting creamed, huh?

Let me repeat....the Pats had a 17 point lead and LOST IT. You can use whatever excuse you want and need, but the fact is that the Pats were beating the Colts badly, the Colts kept refusing to take advantage of any break the Pats gave them, and yet, won.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

It never should have been an issue. Bill should have punted, the loss serves him right.

Shhhh, don't bring logic into it. All the Pats fans talking smack all night, me admitting Colts looked bad and were probably going to lose, and who ends up choking after having a 17 point lead?

 

[techs]

I dvr'd the game and went to sleep at halftime.
Watched it this morning.
Hell of a way to start the day.
Everyone should keep the fusck out of my way today. Or else.

And to those who are ragging on Bellycheck, screw off. From a statistical standpoint the Pats make 2 yards probably over 85 percent of the time. I'd take an 85 percent winning percentage anytime.
And the Pats might have made it except for the bad placement.

This game has proved my point that the Pats really need that big back who can pound out the first downs in the 4th quarter. They haven't had one since, I forget his name, Cory something?

 

[LTC8K6]

He was juggling the ball, so no forward progress. Good call.

 

[techs]

He was juggling the ball, so no forward progress. Good call.

Fusck off, Peyton.

 

[rise]

And to those who are ragging on Bellycheck, screw off. From a statistical standpoint the Pats make 2 yards probably over 85 percent of the time. I'd take an 85 percent winning percentage anytime.
And the Pats might have made it except for the bad placement.

well yeah, it was a tough spot certainly but you can't expect much better after the way the refs called the rest of the game (especially the phantom PI call on butler iirc) and being in manning's house.

and while i don't hate the call belichick made, the pats are actually only converting 62% of 4&2 or less since 2001.

personally, i would've punted but i can see leaving the ball in the O's hands with brady having thrown for over 350yds at that point and manning shredding the pats D in the second half.

 

[Zargon]

LOL, I'm not afraid. But you have to admit, there were a lot of BS going on. And that last catch was well in first down territory, he had both his feet down well beyond the chain and the ball was hugged tightly to his chest before he got knocked back.

guess they shouldnt have wasted their time outs on stupid crap so they could challenge that one.......


and while someone says on avg blah blah 2 yards.....

it was gutsy for sure.

its very risking give manning the ball with 2 minutes left from the the 30

as they proved.....

 

[edro]

Hindsight is 20/20, but I'm glad to see King Belichick embarrassed.

 

[Gibson486]

What does it matter? You saw the damage that Brady can do on a final drive, would you expect less from manning? The truth is, when push comes to shove...Manning is a better QB, pound for pound. That says alot, because Brady is in the same class as Manning. Manning just edges him out just a bit as a pure QB. So, in the end, it would not have mattered. Manning could have started from their own 1 and still got the TD. He is just that good and Bellicheck knows that.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I dvr'd the game and went to sleep at halftime.
Watched it this morning.
Hell of a way to start the day.
Everyone should keep the fusck out of my way today. Or else.

And to those who are ragging on Bellycheck, screw off. From a statistical standpoint the Pats make 2 yards probably over 85 percent of the time. I'd take an 85 percent winning percentage anytime.
And the Pats might have made it except for the bad placement.

This game has proved my point that the Pats really need that big back who can pound out the first downs in the 4th quarter. They haven't had one since, I forget his name, Cory something?

You do NOT go for it on 4th and 2 with 2 minutes left on your own 28 yard line and only up 6 pts. Even if your 85% was correct, that isn't good enough given what was on the line. Not only that, possible home field advantage was at stake and also, a head-to-head tiebreaker was at stake. An incredibly poor decision and yes, the ball placement was correct -- they did NOT make the first. The ball is not marked until the receiver has control, which he did not have until he was pushed back behind the first down line. You don't get forward progress unless you had control of the ball and then were shoved back, which was clearly not the case.

With all of that being said and even though I think it was an awful decision, I do understand Belichick's thought process. He figured that they would more than likely make it and even if they didn't, he figured that in the worst case, the Colts would score and he would have enough time to go down for a field goal and win it. He figured if he punted it away, Manning would go down, score the TD, and not leave them any time.

The fact of the matter is, the Pats had a 17 point lead on at least two separate occasions in the game and could not close it out. It should not have had to come down to that play deciding the game.

 

[KK]

YES...he grabbed his television camera and threw him down!

I seen that, couldn't tell if the camera dude just reached the end of his cord. It happened too fast to make a good assumption.

 

[HopJokey]

Wow awesome game. The decision to go for it on 4th on 2 I did not have a problem with it. Lack of timeouts was a bigger issue and mistakes by the Pats throughout the second half. The Pats should have also let Addai walk into the end zone so they would have time left to drive down and have one of the best kickers in the NFL attempt the game winner.

If the BB really was thinking ahead and wanted to go for it on 4th down, why did he pass the ball on 3rd and 2 (where Brady almost threw a pick-6)? He should have ran the ball there.

The spot of the ball was the correct one; it was probably spotted generously in favor of the Pats too. This is because Faulk juggled the ball, negating the forward progress. The ball would be spotted where it is after he reestablishes possession (two feet down) after the juggle. I do not believe replay would have overturned the call (you need conclusive, without a doubt evidence).

Take aways from the game: the Pats dominated and loss because of turnovers and inability to punch it in one last time (the last FG, Maroney fumble). Both teams need to run the ball more to open up the pass game (when the Pats ran the ball a few times it opened up Moss down the field). Brady looked sharp, Moss is a beast, Welker is really good. Manning was off but still found ways to make the big plays. Wayne is really underrated, I believe he is one of the best WR in the game Manning or no Manning.

 

[crownjules]

Spot on assessment HopJokey.

Though, the 3rd and 2 play was an amazing play by that CB/S on Brady's pass to Welker. Man-to-man coverage on a sidelines pass. He doesn't make that play and the Patriots get 1st and 10 at the 2:00 warning and it's a different end game.

As for the actual play being a pass instead of a run you have to remember the Pat's have an amazing short-pass game that pretty much functions the same as the run. That's the luxury you possess when you have such an accurate passer in Brady. What I was more surprised with was that they didn't do a shotgun spread formation on the 4th down play. I figured when they lined up as they did, it was just a ploy to get them offsides. Take the 5-yard penalty if not and still kick it.

The Maroney fumble sticks out as the game changing mistake. Turned a TD into no points that cost the Pats at the end.

edit: QB numbers -

Manning - 28/44, 327yds, 4TDs, 2INT, 97.4 rating
Brady - 29/42, 375yds, 3TDs, 1INT, 110.7 rating

 

[spidey07]

I think that was Game, Set, and Match.

It's never over till 00:00.

GO COLTS!!! Suck it down pats fans, suck on it.

 

[fulltilt39]

Best game I've seen all season. I got goosebumps watching Peyton...he's incredible. It's like he just says to himself "ok, go time." and becomes supernatural.

 

[BoomerD]

I was stunned by Bellicheck's decision to go for it on 4th and 2 at his own 28. Didn't make any sense then, makes even less sense now.

I'm not a fan of either team, but I almost always root against the Pats...

I'm just wondering...for all of the folks here who were talking so much Patriot smack...how does the crow taste this morning?
(spoken as a Seattle fan who's eaten more crow than he likes to admit)

 

[purbeast0]

LOL, I'm not afraid. But you have to admit, there were a lot of BS going on. And that last catch was well in first down territory, he had both his feet down well beyond the chain and the ball was hugged tightly to his chest before he got knocked back.

you must have been watching a different game than I was.

 

[LTC8K6]

Fusck off, Peyton.

I'm from the Philly area, so I got enough problems...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

It's never over till 00:00.

GO COLTS!!! Suck it down pats fans, suck on it.

I am a Colts fan (check my location) but it was looking really bad. Thank God for Manning! This is one time I am glad I was wrong.

Garcon and Collie REALLY need to work on their hands. They have been awful the last few weeks.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I was stunned by Bellicheck's decision to go for it on 4th and 2 at his own 28. Didn't make any sense then, makes even less sense now.

I'm not a fan of either team, but I almost always root against the Pats...

I'm just wondering...for all of the folks here who were talking so much Patriot smack...how does the crow taste this morning?
(spoken as a Seattle fan who's eaten more crow than he likes to admit)

We'll see the typical "But....but....the refs cost us the game with a bad spot!," which obviously ignores the fact that the Pats led twice by 17 points and got steamrolled by Manning. It should never have had to come down to a single play like that. Brady as "Mr. Clutch," indeed.