What I don't get is why the heck did he wait until after he was found not guilty at this trial? Hasn't he been in jail for quite a while now after already getting a life sentence?
What I don't get is why the heck did he wait until after he was found not guilty at this trial? Hasn't he been in jail for quite a while now after already getting a life sentence?
JEDI
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yup, basically what I said in an earlier post today:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-in-big-trouble.2326702/page-19#post-38853917
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Capt Caveman
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Local sports radio are talking about how there was some exchange after leaving the court house from being acquitted of the double murder with his daughter which left him crying. Can't remember if his daughter tried to run to him but was not allowed and he was crying due to it. Don't know if that led to him hanging himself. I believe there may be photos from the exchange that will be published soon.
zinfamous
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...he was still serving life without parole for that other murder. The one that he was convicted of.
zinfamous
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Elixer
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Perhaps he was actually guilty on all counts, and he was haunted in his cell.... TV movie waiting to be made.
Maybe then, at least some $$$ can go to the people's family that he killed.
MrSquished
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Hernandez's family may have just gotten rich
http://uproxx.com/sports/aaron-hernandez-patriots-nfl-pay-millions/
"The life of Aaron Hernandez is over, but the story of his impact is just beginning. The former New England Patriots tight end and convicted murderer committed suicide early Wednesday morning and that final act may set off a long string of legal challenges and financial squabbles.
Last week, Hernandez was found not guilty of two murders dating back to 2012. According to a report in the Boston Globe, Hernandez’s death may impact his conviction in the 2013 shooting death of Odin Lloyd.
Though Hernandez was convicted in 2015 of murdering Odin L. Lloyd of Boston, Hernandez’s appeal was not complete. Abatement ab initio means “from the beginning,” Healy said, and it means that upon a person’s death if they have not exhausted their legal appeals, their case reverts to its status at the beginning — it’s as if the trial and conviction never happened.
“Unfortunately, in the Odin Lloyd matter, for the family, there won’t be any real closure,” said Healy. “Aaron Hernandez will go to his death an innocent man.”
According to some legal expects, the Hernandez estate could be owed a good amount of money if his legal convictions are indeed overturned. Lawyer Michael Coyne appeared on CSNNE on Wednesday and said Hernandez’s bonus money, base pay and NFL pension could still be paid out if the guilty conviction disappears.
Meanwhile, Lloyd’s family is very aware of a potentially overturned conviction.
“If these convictions are ultimately vacated — both his conviction with Odin Lloyd and his conviction on the gun charge,” Coyne asked “Will his estate — will his child and his wife — be able to recover either some of the bonus that’s still due to him under the Patriots contract or any of his pension benefits that the NFL might owe him?”
In June 2013, the Patriots withheld $3.25 million of Hernandez’s signing bonus. They also refused to pay him his $2.5 million in his guaranteed base salary. New England cited the collective bargaining agreement as their reason for withholding that guaranteed money. That’s the money Hernandez’s lawyers will likely pursue.
Coyne added: “The question is then: If he’s no longer criminally liable, has he violated the provisions of any of his contractual terms? And you know, where there’s money like this involved, the lawyers will have a field day.”
That means more legal action is sure to follow. This time, however, it will be more about finances than justice.
http://uproxx.com/sports/aaron-hernandez-patriots-nfl-pay-millions/
"The life of Aaron Hernandez is over, but the story of his impact is just beginning. The former New England Patriots tight end and convicted murderer committed suicide early Wednesday morning and that final act may set off a long string of legal challenges and financial squabbles.
Last week, Hernandez was found not guilty of two murders dating back to 2012. According to a report in the Boston Globe, Hernandez’s death may impact his conviction in the 2013 shooting death of Odin Lloyd.
Though Hernandez was convicted in 2015 of murdering Odin L. Lloyd of Boston, Hernandez’s appeal was not complete. Abatement ab initio means “from the beginning,” Healy said, and it means that upon a person’s death if they have not exhausted their legal appeals, their case reverts to its status at the beginning — it’s as if the trial and conviction never happened.
“Unfortunately, in the Odin Lloyd matter, for the family, there won’t be any real closure,” said Healy. “Aaron Hernandez will go to his death an innocent man.”
According to some legal expects, the Hernandez estate could be owed a good amount of money if his legal convictions are indeed overturned. Lawyer Michael Coyne appeared on CSNNE on Wednesday and said Hernandez’s bonus money, base pay and NFL pension could still be paid out if the guilty conviction disappears.
Meanwhile, Lloyd’s family is very aware of a potentially overturned conviction.
“If these convictions are ultimately vacated — both his conviction with Odin Lloyd and his conviction on the gun charge,” Coyne asked “Will his estate — will his child and his wife — be able to recover either some of the bonus that’s still due to him under the Patriots contract or any of his pension benefits that the NFL might owe him?”
In June 2013, the Patriots withheld $3.25 million of Hernandez’s signing bonus. They also refused to pay him his $2.5 million in his guaranteed base salary. New England cited the collective bargaining agreement as their reason for withholding that guaranteed money. That’s the money Hernandez’s lawyers will likely pursue.
Coyne added: “The question is then: If he’s no longer criminally liable, has he violated the provisions of any of his contractual terms? And you know, where there’s money like this involved, the lawyers will have a field day.”
That means more legal action is sure to follow. This time, however, it will be more about finances than justice.
Miramonti
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He lived like a POS and died like one. There's no victory in his death, only clarity.
PottedMeat
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his favorite things were football, violent behavior, smoking pcp, and killing
note to self: stay the fuck away from pcp users
JEDI
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Pass incomplete because both feet did not touch the groundI heard Hernandez got a neck injury.
He's gonna be out indefinitely.
highland145
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When corrections officers found Aaron Hernandez hanging from a bedsheet in his Massachusetts prison cell on Wednesday, the words "John 3:16" were written on his forehead and the wall, according to reports.
The words were written with a red marker and a Bible was left open to the lines, sources told Fox 25. The verse says: “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
The words were written with a red marker and a Bible was left open to the lines, sources told Fox 25. The verse says: “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
zinfamous
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Ridiculous. I would hope that the Llyod family has some legal means of claiming that money for themselves. If Hernandez can have his conviction revoked simply for killing himself, let's just call that an acquittal. In such cases, the victim's families can then pursue wrongful death via civil court (The Goldmans vs Murdering OJ). Now, I assume this is probably not possible because of some bullshit where a "Dead guy can't defend themselves," but are their legal means for the LLoyd family to pursue Hernandez's money through some wrongful death trial?
Hell, Italians and Romans used to dig up the corpses of dead popes and put them on trial. Why can't we do that?
zinfamous
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MomentsofSanity
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highland145
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He was acquitted so the death penalty was off the table.Well, shit. Massachusetts corrections officers let Jesus kill himself.
Artorias
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I think its becoming clear as to what happened. AH killed himself so that his family would get money, AH is now owed by the NFL because AH is not a convict anymore after dying while appealing a court decision.
Him looking at his kid and crying I think you can put the two together easily, his kid is an innocent bystander in all of this and perhaps he had a will setup, who knows.
Its a sad story all around.
Him looking at his kid and crying I think you can put the two together easily, his kid is an innocent bystander in all of this and perhaps he had a will setup, who knows.
Its a sad story all around.
GagHalfrunt
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Not really. A conviction in the criminal case makes the civil case a slam dunk. But even without the conviction it's still the same evidence that was used in the first place. It was a strong enough case to easily convict him and the standards for civil trials are even lower. In a criminal case it's beyond a reasonable doubt, but for civil it's essentially 51%. Odin's family should have no trouble. If the evidence was strong enough to send him away for life it's good enough to get damages.
Anubis
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im hoping everyone can just shut up about it in general, too many people care way to much about this
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