Patriots TE Hernandez in big trouble

[Meghan54]

You do realize you should read the text right? All of your examples are saying something to the liking of this being from court costs. You do realize life in prison has a court cost as well, right? Except you also have to add the actual costs for the life in prison afterwards.. Deeeeeeeeerp.


There hasn't been an actual legitimate study on the court costs of life in prison vs death penalty. Quoting 1 article that studied court cases in ONE STATE out of 50 states with MANY different laws, regulations, and courts is FAR from a legitimate study. You can't study 1 liberal state and say all 50 are the same way. But lets say your bullshit one-sided argument is true. Ok. Fine. Death penalty COURT costs are < $1m more than court costs seeking life in prison.

Here you have a young male going to prison at a VERY ripe age. So how much does life in prison cost?

http://www.mountain-news.com/news/crime_log/article_4f1e45f8-5630-11e0-93da-001cc4c002e0.html

According to the article, it costs approximately $47,102 per year for prison. Again, we have someone young here, so saying he will last AT LEAST 30 years is pretty certain, but even 50 years seems very probably for someone in their 30's. Plus, they get free healthcare....

$47,102 x 30 years = $1,413,060
Not enough for you?
$47,102 x 50 years = $2,355,100

Need I go on? Death penalty is by far a cheaper option.

You do realize you should read the text right? Deeeeeeeeerp.

Hint: The linked article included multiple studies performed by the respective states, which makes sense since death penalties are a state function and prerogative.

The link included studies from Washington, Nevada, Tennessee, Idaho, Kansas, California, New Jersey, Indiana, North Carolina.....guess they're all bastions of liberalism, eh?

And to say none included the costs of incarceration is false. But I guess you didn't bother to actually READ anything, did you, given your post.

Again, from the linked page:


Maryland (2008): The study estimates that the average cost to Maryland taxpayers for reaching a single death sentence is $3 million - $1.9 million more than the cost of a non-death penalty case. (This includes investigation, trial, appeals, and incarceration costs.)


California (2011): ....if the Governor commuted the sentences of those remaining on death row to life without parole, it would result in an immediate savings of $170 million per year, with a savings of $5 billion over the next 20 years.

The additional cost of confining an inmate to death row, as compared to the maximum security prisons where those sentenced to life without possibility of parole ordinarily serve their sentences, is $90,000 per year per inmate. With California&#8217;s current death row population of 670, that accounts for $63.3 million annually. (Actually cheaper to keep inmates in the general population than on death row.)


Kansas (2014): The Department of Corrections said housing prisoners on death row cost more than twice as much per year ($49,380) as for prisoners in the general population ($24,690). Justices of the Kansas Supreme Court assigned to write opinions estimated they spent 20 times more hours on death penalty appeals than on non-death appeals.



You were saying?

 

[purbeast0]

too early for ownage of the year nominations?

 

[slightlyhuman]

fuck this guy.

also people that praise professional athletes all together can get fucked too. they are people that need to be held to the same standards as every one else.

i like a good sports game(and play them too) but it's a joke how some people disregard that pro players need to be held accountable(even more so since they are role models to the younger generation).

 

[Sonikku]

You do realize you should read the text right? All of your examples are saying something to the liking of this being from court costs. You do realize life in prison has a court cost as well, right? Except you also have to add the actual costs for the life in prison afterwards.. Deeeeeeeeerp.


There hasn't been an actual legitimate study on the court costs of life in prison vs death penalty. Quoting 1 article that studied court cases in ONE STATE out of 50 states with MANY different laws, regulations, and courts is FAR from a legitimate study. You can't study 1 liberal state and say all 50 are the same way. But lets say your bullshit one-sided argument is true. Ok. Fine. Death penalty COURT costs are < $1m more than court costs seeking life in prison.

Here you have a young male going to prison at a VERY ripe age. So how much does life in prison cost?

http://www.mountain-news.com/news/crime_log/article_4f1e45f8-5630-11e0-93da-001cc4c002e0.html

According to the article, it costs approximately $47,102 per year for prison. Again, we have someone young here, so saying he will last AT LEAST 30 years is pretty certain, but even 50 years seems very probably for someone in their 30's. Plus, they get free healthcare....

$47,102 x 30 years = $1,413,060
Not enough for you?
$47,102 x 50 years = $2,355,100

Need I go on? Death penalty is by far a cheaper option.

Holy crap we're paying 47 grand a year per inmate?! 47k a year to house someone for smoking a joint. With the highest prison population in the world. And we get choked up over giving law abiding low income people $200 a month in foodstamps.

 

[Meghan54]

Holy crap we're paying 47 grand a year per inmate?! 47k a year to house someone for smoking a joint. With the highest prison population in the world. And we get choked up over giving law abiding low income people $200 a month in foodstamps.

Those are California figures. The numbers are different in different states. For instance, as noted above, Kansas' costs are much lower, which sorta goes along with the state's cost of living, etc. Kansas' incarceration costs are $24,690 per inmate in general population, $49,380 per death row inmate.

 

[Anubis]

Holy crap we're paying 47 grand a year per inmate?! 47k a year to house someone for smoking a joint. With the highest prison population in the world. And we get choked up over giving law abiding low income people $200 a month in foodstamps.

yes prison costs a ton of money and we all pay for it via taxes and such

also many have become "for profit" intuitions which makes the issue even worse

 

[Phoenix86]

yes prison costs a ton of money and we all pay for it via taxes and such

also many have become "for profit" intuitions which makes the issue even worse

It's not inherently worse, it could be cheaper, private sector often is. However, there's a litany of other issues with the concept. In practice it's pretty bad.

 

[Phokus]

Holy crap we're paying 47 grand a year per inmate?! 47k a year to house someone for smoking a joint. With the highest prison population in the world. And we get choked up over giving law abiding low income people $200 a month in foodstamps.

Yup, and we've privatized many prisons so there's an incentive to lock people up for bs 'offenses' like smoking a joint.

 

[highland145]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/1...-acquitted-in-2012-double-murder-by-jury.html

 

[zinfamous]

well, I'll be damned.

 

[smackababy]

One step closer to being a Cowboy! We are counting on him for when Witten finally leaves us!

 

[zinfamous]

One step closer to being a Cowboy! We are counting on him for when Witten finally leaves us!

still serving a life sentence, tho.

 

[smackababy]

still serving a life sentence, tho.

For now! Appeals and parole aren't out of the question!

 

[MrSquished]

yes prison costs a ton of money and we all pay for it via taxes and such

also many have become "for profit" intuitions which makes the issue even worse

for profit prisons should be made unconstitutional.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

still serving a life sentence, tho.

But only one life sentence instead of three. Wahoo!!!

 

[BUTCH1]

But only one life sentence instead of three. Wahoo!!!

I agree BUT......This is the SAME lawyer who somefuck*** how got Casey Anthony off from killing her own kid, he might get the Odin case re-opened but even if that came about there is no possible way Goodell would reinstate him into the league. He was a good TE but hardly anything like Gronk and even if he was who would want THAT baggage?.

 

[smackababy]

I agree BUT......This is the SAME lawyer who somefuck*** how got Casey Anthony off from killing her own kid, he might get the Odin case re-opened but even if that came about there is no possible way Goodell would reinstate him into the league. He was a good TE but hardly anything like Gronk and even if he was who would want THAT baggage?.

If his conviction is overturned and Goodell refused to reinstate him, that is a lawsuit coming. He is "innocent" in that case, and there is no reason to not reinstate him.

 

[BUTCH1]

If his conviction is overturned and Goodell refused to reinstate him, that is a lawsuit coming. He is "innocent" in that case, and there is no reason to not reinstate him.

Possibly, but as we've seen Goodell kinda "wings it" as he goes along LOL. Even if H sued and won reinstatement that doesn't mean any team would want him. If OJ was still in his prime playing years would he still be on a roster after the court found him innocent?, no, every team is it's own business and they can't be told to employ anyone.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Possibly, but as we've seen Goodell kinda "wings it" as he goes along LOL. Even if H sued and won reinstatement that doesn't mean any team would want him. If OJ was still in his prime playing years would he still be on a roster after the court found him innocent?, no, every team is it's own business and they can't be told to employ anyone.

Holy crap, you're worried about what Goodell does? Is everyone here batshit insane? Hernandez has been appealing his life sentence for two years and has gotten nowhere. This acquittal doesn't change that conviction. The chances of his getting a new trial are slim. The timetable would be years down the road even if successful and the case he got convicted on is really strong, so there's little chance of him beating it even if the courts lost their mind and give him a new trial. Best case is 1000 dominoes topple the right way and he get a new trial that happens maybe in 2020 or 2022 by the time all the wrangling is done. At that point he's 32 and has been out of football for a decade. And he's toxic. What Goodell does means jack shit.

Chance of new trial 1 in 1000
Chance of getting new trial and winning it 1 in 10000
Chance of any team even trying to sign him at that point is a big fat fucking ZERO

 

[BUTCH1]

Holy crap, you're worried about what Goodell does? Is everyone here batshit insane? Hernandez has been appealing his life sentence for two years and has gotten nowhere. This acquittal doesn't change that conviction. The chances of his getting a new trial are slim. The timetable would be years down the road even if successful and the case he got convicted on is really strong, so there's little chance of him beating it even if the courts lost their mind and give him a new trial. Best case is 1000 dominoes topple the right way and he get a new trial that happens maybe in 2020 or 2022 by the time all the wrangling is done. At that point he's 32 and has been out of football for a decade. And he's toxic. What Goodell does means jack shit.

Chance of new trial 1 in 1000
Chance of getting new trial and winning it 1 in 10000
Chance of any team even trying to sign him at that point is a big fat fucking ZERO

GOOD, that's GREAT news then. This guy had the life all of us dream of, playing before 72,000 adoring fans and making millions while doing it and he threw all that away just to keep his "thug" rep?, EPIC fool and a cold-blooded murder to boot.

 

[Captante]

$24,690 per inmate in general population

So $2000+ per month to lock up pot-heads & other non-violent offenders ... what a bargain I feel safer already!

 

[momeNt]

GOOD, that's GREAT news then. This guy had the life all of us dream of, playing before 72,000 adoring fans and making millions while doing it and he threw all that away just to keep his "thug" rep?, EPIC fool and a cold-blooded murder to boot.

He had psychological issues eg. paranoia. Basically he thought people were out to get him and disrespect him. I don't think this was traditional thug life and street cred stuff. He maybe had people who fed into that, but he was genuinely messed up in the head.

 

[Darwin333]

for profit prisons should be made unconstitutional.

Believe it or not, most of them are "for profit" regardless if a private entity is running it or the local county. The exception is Federal prisons because there is no one higher up to get money from.

In NOLA you can get arrested for the smallest thing, pay your bail at 10 AM and they won't let you out until after midnight. Why? Because the state pays them for every prisoner and you are counted as being there for the entire day at 12:01 AM. The really fucked up part is that I don't know many people who wouldn't MUCH prefer to give them the absurdly small amount of money to get out even an hour earlier, I think it's something like $16. BTW that is a parish (county) prison, not a privately owned one. Even worse is how horribly the prisoners are treated, want to read something truly horrible then google "Orleans Parish Prison Katrina". That isn't just a one time, really bad shit happened, thing either. The justice department has issued many decrees or whatever due to their violating the constitutional rights of their prisoners, most of whom have not even been convicted of a crime yet.

Here is just one example:

Another inmate died in August 2001 of dehydration, after he was held in restraints for 42 hours; the inmate–Shawn Duncan–entered OPP one week earlier as a healthy 24-year-old who was being held on traffic charges

Being held for traffic charges and dies of fucking dehydration, how the fuck does that happen?!? Seriously, I suggest you google the Katrina thing and see just how bad publicly owned prisons can be too. BTW, I do agree that there should be no for-profit prisons, I just think that it shouldn't matter if they are public or private for them to be considered "for profit".

 

[purbeast0]

Just heard breaking news on the radio on the way to work that he was found hung in his cell a bit after 3am.

EDIT:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...self-prison/Hkp9wdGcZImoMBomJLMNVJ/story.html

 

[zinfamous]

well, there you go.