Patriots TE Hernandez in big trouble

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preslove

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I'll buy that. They test for 'roids, pot, adderol and want to test for HGH... but they probably completely gloss over coke, meth, crack, heroine, LSD, PCP, etc. That would explain this...

lol, you're adorable.
 

AMDZen

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I don't know about PCP (I doubt the league even screens for it), but cocaine metabolites only stay in the body for urine test purposes for, at most, 72 hours. Meth is about the same. A reasonably savvy player could get away with a lot of cocaine/crack/meth usage without ever being caught.

Even if they tested for PCP - like Coke, Heroin, Meth, Ecstasy and basically every other drug known to mankind (sans pot) it is out of your system with in 72 hours

And like i said, they are given a calendar with the precise dates they will be tested on. Easy as pie
 

Franz316

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I actually attended UF at the same time as Hernandez. There were many, many rumors across campus of him receiving huge boxes of weed weighing pounds, not ounces.

I'm not surprised the police department protected him either.
 

twinrider1

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The NCAA makes millions off of him but when he tries to make money off himself its a scandal.

That money goes to pay his scholarship and the scholarships of 62 Texas A&M football players that aren't household names.
 
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AznAnarchy99

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That money goes to pay his scholarship and the scholarships of 62 Texas A&M football players that aren't household names.

I fail to see why that is Manziel's issue? If any of the other players need help with tuition there's the Pell grant and all of the donations to the athletic department. At a school like A&M I'm sure there's plenty.

How about the players who come from poverty, get to play at a D1 school and make a name for themselves but still can't support their family? There was an article a while back on ESPN where the school got hit with a fine since the coach helped one player's family by helping them get a home when they were jumping motel to motel.

http://www.drexel.edu/now/news-medi...-Six-Figures-Live-Below-Federal-Poverty-Line/
 

KeithTalent

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Damn, just keeps getting worse for this dude:

Former New England Patriots star Aaron Hernandez -- already charged in the 2013 slaying of a semipro football player - has been charged with two counts of first-degree murder in the July 2012 killings of Daniel Abreu and Safiro Furtado, authorities said today. He also was charged with three counts of armed assault with attempt to murder.

Abreu and Furtado were shot as they sat in a BMW outside a Boston nightclub.

That 2012 shooting is separate from a 2013 killing for which Hernandez, 24, was arrested and charged last summer. Hernandez was charged with first-degree murder and weapons violations in connection with the June 17 shooting death of 27-year-old semipro football player Odin Lloyd in North Attleboro, Massachusetts.

Two more counts of first degree murder. What a piece of work this guy is.

KT
 
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Damn, just keeps getting worse for this dude:

Two more counts of first degree murder. What a piece of work this guy is.

KT

Of course, he has long been suspected of these murders.

This is really one of the stranger stories I can recall in sports. I suppose in a sense it's surprising this kind of thing doesn't happen more often - the league is by necessity full of alpha male types from very poor backgrounds, and in the hands of people like that money is like flash paper. Still, an NFL standout being charged with three murders is like something out of Hollywood.
 

KeithTalent

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Of course, he has long been suspected of these murders.

This is really one of the stranger stories I can recall in sports. I suppose in a sense it's surprising this kind of thing doesn't happen more often - the league is by necessity full of alpha male types from very poor backgrounds, and in the hands of people like that money is like flash paper. Still, an NFL standout being charged with three murders is like something out of Hollywood.

It certainly does feel like a movie or TV show. Crazy.

It's also weird seeing you as Malcolm Tucker now. :hmm:

KT
 

smackababy

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Of course, he has long been suspected of these murders.

This is really one of the stranger stories I can recall in sports. I suppose in a sense it's surprising this kind of thing doesn't happen more often - the league is by necessity full of alpha male types from very poor backgrounds, and in the hands of people like that money is like flash paper. Still, an NFL standout being charged with three murders is like something out of Hollywood.

The poor background thing is largely a myth. The vast majority of players in the NFL are middle class, not the impoverished urbanites we are lead to believe. Sure, there are a few (Michael Vick and Lebron James, for example), but in order for them to get to such a level they require a lot of expensive coaching and the facilities to expand their born with talent. The rags to riches is really a thing of the past.

With that said, Aaron Hernadez is gangster as fuck! I remember The Game (some rapper) talking shit about him on TMZ, claiming that having a 'Bloods' tattoo doesn't make you anything. How many murders has The Game (who claims to be a real Blood) been indited for?
 

Blackjack200

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The poor background thing is largely a myth. The vast majority of players in the NFL are middle class, not the impoverished urbanites we are lead to believe. Sure, there are a few (Michael Vick and Lebron James, for example), but in order for them to get to such a level they require a lot of expensive coaching and the facilities to expand their born with talent. The rags to riches is really a thing of the past.

I think it's still pretty common. The talented kids are identified at a young age and recruited by sport focused schools, which is where they get their coaching. NCAA is the next step.
 

AznAnarchy99

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With that said, Aaron Hernadez is gangster as fuck! I remember The Game (some rapper) talking shit about him on TMZ, claiming that having a 'Bloods' tattoo doesn't make you anything. How many murders has The Game (who claims to be a real Blood) been indited for?

The smart ones don't get caught.
 

smackababy

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The smart ones don't get caught.

The Game hasn't murdered anybody. He is like every other rapper out there: a caricature of urban youth. Black people should be offended with how these morons act. It is blatantly racist. I equate it with blackface and the ridiculous stuff in the early 20th century.


I support Cristal saying they don't want to be a part of that "culture".

I think it's still pretty common. The talented kids are identified at a young age and recruited by sport focused schools, which is where they get their coaching. NCAA is the next step.
It isn't. The poor kid getting out the ghetto by playing a sport isn't a reality. Even if they are incredibly gifted, without proper coaching (which won't happen because they can either not afford it or don't get the opportunity to be discovered by someone who is willing to do it for free) they might get lucky enough to make it to college. And then, there is a very high chance they won't make it past that level.
 
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zinfamous

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The poor background thing is largely a myth. The vast majority of players in the NFL are middle class, not the impoverished urbanites we are lead to believe. Sure, there are a few (Michael Vick and Lebron James, for example), but in order for them to get to such a level they require a lot of expensive coaching and the facilities to expand their born with talent. The rags to riches is really a thing of the past.

Not really. A lot of the Blue Chip players really do come from some fucked-up backgrounds. They often get scouted young and invited to live with a coach and family, usually from an out-of-district High School with a big program.

So, they spend some formative years "living well," but by the time they are identified as premiere prospects, many of them have lived in crack neighborhoods, single-parent homes with no real parent figures into their teens. Some adjust well because they truly want to get the hell out. Some refuse to leave the ghetto behind.
 

Childs

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It isn't. The poor kid getting out the ghetto by playing a sport isn't a reality. Even if they are incredibly gifted, without proper coaching (which won't happen because they can either not afford it or don't get the opportunity to be discovered by someone who is willing to do it for free) they might get lucky enough to make it to college. And then, there is a very high chance they won't make it past that level.

Is there some sort of reference you are basing this on? The kids are identified really young, and funneled into schools with better athletic programs, even if they have to fudge their address to get into a particular school. Private schools offer scholarships. In basketball there are even AAU leagues which essentially bypass school athletic programs all together. I would bet most of the best athletes in major college sports are from low income families. Now the percentage that make it versus the amount that try is probably low, but that number is low for even middle and upper class athletes as well.
 

PastTense

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Anyone know how he is moneywise? How much money from his contract did he end up keeping? How many lawsuits is he facing? Any settled? What is the status of his girlfriend and kid?
 

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Trial ends with Hernandez declared guilty on all counts. First degree murder. Sentencing in a few minutes. The murder conviction is supposed to carry a mandatory sentence of life without parole.

He still faces a murder trial for the other two deaths from 2012 when allegedly he shot Daniel Abreu and Safirdo Furtado outside a nightclub after one of them spilled a drink.
 
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