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Patriots a dynasty if they win this superbowl?

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Originally posted by: herkulease
I'd have to say the 50s/60s celtics. c'mon 11 straight championships.
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Definitely.. see what I'm trying to say is that the Pats aren't quite on a par with the Yankees or 50s/60s Celtics..YET.
 
even tho i hate the patriots if they win this year and continue to play well next season i think they might become one.
 
I think the term dynasty has to relate to thier longevity of their dominace. Although 3 out of 4 years would be oneof the great accomplishments in football history. They would have to continue their suprority (which does not mean winning more superbowls) near a decade of football or maintain their dominance with the next generation, like a montana-young did. With that said, the pats have the oppertunity to arguably be the greatest dynasty in the NFL.
 
Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: AStar617
Originally posted by: Vic
3 rings in 4 years = undisputable dynasty
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Fixed for a nitpick--3 rings over, say, 30 years, does not a dynasty make... but 3 in 4, there's not much to argue.

Damn, glancing thru this thread there's a lot of people who still don't want to give credit where credit is due. Someone spoke of teams not fearing the Pats--what difference does this make if they can't beat them??? Where will all of these fearless teams be watching the game from? The same place as me, in the damn living room.

And for the record, while I do want us to get the respect we are due, I do kinda hate fairweather fans too. If you don't know the following names (dating from the dark, dark days of the early 90s), then consider your Pats card officially pulled:

Dick McPherson
Hugh Millen
Tommy Hodson
Leonard Russell
John Stephens

All we had then was Irving Fryar, Andre Tippett, and a young Ben Coates. Life as a 2-15 Pats fan was rooooooough. :thumbsdown:
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I dont know all of those names but i asnt old enough to remember the patriots at that time anyways. But I have been a Pats fan as long as I have watched football and I hate that the Pats still dont get any credit, no matter what they do. 3 rings in 4 years is certainly a dynasty (if they win, which im confident they will). And I dont know many bandwagon fans, everyone around here just hates the patriots.
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Well argued. You got a spot in Pats Nation :thumbsup:😉
 
Super Bowl Standings

Team W L Pct. Pts. Opp.
San Francisco 49ers 5 0 1.000 188 89
Baltimore Ravens 1 0 1.000 34 7
Chicago Bears 1 0 1.000 46 10
New York Jets 1 0 1.000 16 7
Tampa Bay Buccane 1 0 1.000 48 21
Pittsburgh Steelers 4 1 .800 120 100
Green Bay Packers 3 1 .750 127 76
New York Giants 2 1 .667 66 73
Dallas Cowboys 5 3 .625 221 132
Oakland/L.A. Raiders 3 2 .600 132 114
Washington Redskins 3 2 .600 122 103
New England Patriots 2 2 .500 83 127
Baltimore Colts 1 1 .500 23 29
Kansas City Chiefs 1 1 .500 33 42
Miami Dolphins 2 3 .400 74 103
Denver Broncos 2 4 .333 115 206
St. Louis/L.A. Rams 1 2 .333 59 67
Atlanta Falcons 0 1 .000 19 34
Carolina Panthers 0 1 .000 29 32
Tennessee Titans 0 1 .000 16 23
Philadelphia Eagles 0 1 .000 10 27
San Diego Chargers 0 1 .000 26 49
Cincinnati Bengals 0 2 .000 37 46
Buffalo Bills 0 4 .000 73 139
Minnesota Vikings 0 4 .000 34 95


http://www.superbowl.com/history/standings
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: SofaKing
Originally posted by: ElFenix
only dynasty in sports is the yankees.
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And the Montreal Canadiens 😀
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no, they're not. and neither are the celtics. i said, 'only.'
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Not gonna start a holy war here, but for you to totally dismiss the Celtics of the 1960s, one of the following two situations must apply to you:

1) You are the illegitimate child of Mickey Mantle or Wilt Chamberlain;

2) You are freebasing cocaine.

Even I as a Boston native respect what the Yankees did and don't try to take that from them.
 
sofaking,

add "we todd it" to your username... your buddy is right, you're wrong.

3 out of four hasn't been done since troy and the 'boys back in the 90's (and they were the only other team to do it). If that Dallas team counts as a dynasty, than so do the Pats.
 
In the day of salary caps and free agency, it's hard to not call them a dynasty. No team has done what they've done. No team has had as much success. Sure Lombardi won for 9 years in GB, but he had the SAME team every year. He didn't have to worry about his star players being taken by other teams. 3 superbowls in 4 years is nearly unheard of anyway (even pre-free agency). They won 23 (?) in a row.
 
Originally posted by: AStar617
Originally posted by: Vic
3 rings in 4 years = undisputable dynasty
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Fixed for a nitpick--3 rings over, say, 30 years, does not a dynasty make... but 3 in 4, there's not much to argue.

Damn, glancing thru this thread there's a lot of people who still don't want to give credit where credit is due. Someone spoke of teams not fearing the Pats--what difference does this make if they can't beat them??? Where will all of these fearless teams be watching the game from? The same place as me, in the damn living room.

And for the record, while I do want us to get the respect we are due, I do kinda hate fairweather fans too. If you don't know the following names (dating from the dark, dark days of the early 90s), then consider your Pats card officially pulled:

Dick McPherson
Hugh Millen
Tommy Hodson
Leonard Russell
John Stephens

All we had then was Irving Fryar, Andre Tippett, and a young Ben Coates. Life as a 2-15 Pats fan was rooooooough. :thumbsdown:
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I'm not a Pats fan and I know those names...all except for Dick McPherson
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: maddogchen
I hate bandwagon Patriot fans. My bandwagon friend actually thought New England was a state 🙂
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BAH!

In my mind they still lost to the raiders over a BS call. I'll never live that down.

<---always wondered where the new england state was.
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Uhm, rules are rules, stop crying you faiders fan 😉
 
I don't know if they have a dynasty .. their players aren't really any better than any other good team right now ... they just happen to have the best coaching staff in the NFL, by far.
 
I've been a Pats fan all my life and they will win this year, and yes they are a dynasty to many people

everythign is relative to who your talking to
 
Originally posted by: JDub02
I don't know if they have a dynasty .. their players aren't really any better than any other good team right now ... they just happen to have the best coaching staff in the NFL, by far.
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I hate this excuse. The coaches can prepare the players, but the players play the damn game.

The have a dominant QB, RB, defensive line, safeties, linebackers etc. Just because they do not get a lot of "Pro bowlers" is no reason that they do not have great players. The pro bowl is a JOKE. The opposing players have a vote in it (e.g. offensive players vote for Def ones). And it is the above fallacy that perpuates only a couple of Patriots making it. personally give me tedy bruschi over Ray "Let me jump on this pile at the end of a play, then dance like a crack head" Lewis ANY day.
 
They will be a Dynasty, as the Cowboys are the only team right now to have won 3 of 4 SuperBowls. That is what the Pats would match, if they win.
 
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