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Pat Buchanan fired from MSNBC

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I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did on there.

I would expect all of the Entertainment Organizations to fire staffers that are on their opposing sides shortly ahead of the general election.


2-17-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/pat-buchanan-msnbc-015053514.html

Pat Buchanan out at MSNBC

MSNBC dropped conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on Thursday, four months after suspending him following the publication of his latest book.

The book "Suicide of a Superpower" contained chapters titled "The End of White America" and "The Death of Christian America." Critics called the book racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic

The liberal media watchdog Media Matters for America said that MSNBC made the right decision in letting Buchanan go.


The book "was not his first, nor his worst offense," said Ari Rabin-Havt, executive vice president of Media Matters. "He's been making the same racially insensitive, anti-Semitic and homophobic statements for the past 50 years."
 
You can read what Buchanan says about his blacklisting here.
http://www.creators.com/conservative/pat-buchanan.html

........On Nov. 2, Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League, who has sought to have me censored for 22 years, piled on.

"Buchanan has shown himself, time and again, to be a racist and an anti-Semite," said Foxman. Buchanan "bemoans the destruction of white Christian America" and says America's shrinking Jewish population is due to the "collective decision of Jews themselves."

Well, yes, I do bemoan what Newsweek's 2009 cover called "The Decline and Fall of Christian America" and editor Jon Meacham described as "The End of Christian America." After all, I am a Christian............
On Nov. 2, Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League, who has sought to have me censored for 22 years, piled on.

"Buchanan has shown himself, time and again, to be a racist and an anti-Semite," said Foxman. Buchanan "bemoans the destruction of white Christian America" and says America's shrinking Jewish population is due to the "collective decision of Jews themselves."

Well, yes, I do bemoan what Newsweek's 2009 cover called "The Decline and Fall of Christian America" and editor Jon Meacham described as "The End of Christian America." After all, I am a Christian.At Portland State, President Clinton got a huge ovation when he told students that white Americans will be a minority in 2050.

Is this writer alone forbidden to broach the subject?

That homosexual acts are unnatural and immoral has been doctrine in the Catholic Church for 2,000 years.

Is it now hate speech to restate traditional Catholic beliefs? ...........
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Judge Andrew Napolitano wasn't fired, however, Freedom Watch recently was cancelled and replaced with reruns of earlier airings of FBN programs. His was probably the only show on Fox worth watching.
 
I kind'a like him. Still do. He provided counterbalance at MSNBC in what seemed to me to be a reasonable "un-rabid", non-controversial kind of way.

I haven't read any of his books though, where it seems his current problems with MSNBC management stem from.

My only hope is that he doesn't sacrifice whatever self-respect and integrity he had garnered over at MSNBC by moving to FOX and getting turned into another one of their many lying Murdoch/Koch-bot talking heads. Or has he?
 
Just another example of how ideology cleansing has gotten really bad. If you don't march in lock step with the ideology of the organization, you get cleansed, there is no room for differing opinions. Juan Williams and NPR was another one like that. Not that it's any better on the right... anyone who holds any position that is not considered conservative enough is labeled a RINO.

Sad times we live in.
 
San Francisco area radio has gotten a lot worse recently.

In such a progressive area, it already wasn't that strong - Fox News has a station no problem.

There was one talk radio station with a mix from left to right; and more recently one progressive-themed station with syndicated shows from Mike Malloy, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes. A couple months ago, the latter station announced they were canceling all but one of the progressives, bringing in Glenn Beck and Fox programming.

The first station however, bought by Cumulus, decided to fire all but one of ITS radio hosts, leading the second station to partly uncancel some shows.

So now we're left with no liberal programming on the first station, and on the second things like Thom Hartmann moved from 9-12 live in the morning to 10PM-1AM.

The first station is now an 'all news' format, meaning cheap news programming with apparently the only local talent pretty much being sports.

It's a mess, corporate money driven harming 'free speech'.

The only 'progressive' tv networks seem to be the reliable Current TV almost no one has heard of created by Al Gore, and the very iffy MSNBC who might do it while it's profitable.

MSNBC is still mixed, they got rid of Keith Olbermann, they got rid of Cenk Ungyer after telling him to stop offending the powerful people in Wahshington...

MSNBS also keeps shows like hours a day in the early morning with Republican former member of Congress Joe whatsisname.
 
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Let's put it this way... Pat J Buchanan isn't Dr. Paul, but he definitely would've been better than any of the Republicans he ran against.

He's mostly right about foreign policy, although sometimes for the wrong reasons.
 
I disagree with just about every substantive policy opinion Buchanan has, but I do recognize him as one of the most astute political operatives there is-his analysis is generally second to none.

Ironically he was always at his sharpest and seemed to personally get along great with Rachel Maddow, an out of the closet lesbian.
 
Thump553 said:
I disagree with just about every substantive policy opinion Buchanan has, but I do recognize him as one of the most astute political operatives there is-his analysis is generally second to none.
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Only in the sense that even a blind squirrel finds a few acorns...

He's incisive on rare occasions, when he's not toeing the ideological line...
 
Double Trouble said:
Just another example of how ideology cleansing has gotten really bad. If you don't march in lock step with the ideology of the organization, you get cleansed, there is no room for differing opinions. Juan Williams and NPR was another one like that. Not that it's any better on the right... anyone who holds any position that is not considered conservative enough is labeled a RINO.

Sad times we live in.
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I don't think that is the correct read in this case. I think this action is particular to Buchanan and his books. The charge of anti-semitism, for example, whether correct or not, is not one typically leveled at conservatives. MSN needs a conservative for counter-balance, for at least the perception of objectivity. They will undoubtedly hire another in his place.
 
This guy predicted it all. 🙂 Pat Buchanan is a bit late to the game with his book.

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Jhhnn said:
It always has been hate speech, Pat.
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The American Psychiatric Society listed homosexuality as a disorder until 1973. So no it hasn't always been considered hate speech. Don't make the mistake of assuming because it's widely accepted now that it always has been. To single out Buchanan and blame him for his church's stance isn't fair either.

In 1952, when the American Psychiatric Association published its first Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, homosexuality was included as a disorder. Almost immediately, however, that classification began to be subjected to critical scrutiny in research funded by the National Institute of Mental Health. That study and subsequent research consistently failed to produce any empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality as a disorder or abnormality, rather than a normal and healthy sexual orientation. As results from such research accumulated, professionals in medicine, mental health, and the behavioral and social sciences reached the conclusion that it was inaccurate to classify homosexuality as a mental disorder and that the DSM classification reflected untested assumptions based on once-prevalent social norms and clinical impressions from unrepresentative samples comprising patients seeking therapy and individuals whose conduct brought them into the criminal justice system.

In recognition of the scientific evidence,[102] the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from the DSM in 1973, stating that "homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgment, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities." After thoroughly reviewing the scientific data, the American Psychological Association adopted the same position in 1975, and urged all mental health professionals "to take the lead in removing the stigma of mental illness that has long been associated with homosexual orientations." The National Association of Social Workers has adopted a similar policy.

Thus, mental health professionals and researchers have long recognized that being homosexual poses no inherent obstacle to leading a happy, healthy, and productive life, and that the vast majority of gay and lesbian people function well in the full array of social institutions and interpersonal relationships
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monovillage said:
The American Psychiatric Society listed homosexuality as a disorder until 1973. So no it hasn't always been considered hate speech. Don't make the mistake of assuming because it's widely accepted now that it always has been. To single out Buchanan and blame him for his church's stance isn't fair either.
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Don't make the mistake of saying that something that's always been hate speech was something else, regardless of how widely it was accepted.

I didn't single out Buchanan- he did that himself through affirmation.
 
homercles337 said:
Man, we repeat, repeat, and repeat this stuff, but you guys ignore it. ..........
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and we'll continue to repeat it as long as Democrats are (D) Democrats. If you think a political wiki page is going to magically turn a Democrat into something else you'd be wrong.
 
homercles337 said:
Man, we repeat, repeat, and repeat this stuff, but you guys ignore it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
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Neither of the victors in the Senatorial races, Representative George A. Smathers in Florida and Willis Smith in North Carolina, is identified with the Dixiecrats, though beneficiaries of a Dixiecrat type of campaign. But, as far as the President is concerned, their triumph represents a loss to him where it counts -- in votes in Congress.
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It seems that Southerners, on sober second thought, are inclined to punish political apostasy -- which, in the South, is desertion of the Democratic Party by public leaders.
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Results of Southern Primaries Reveal Interesting Paradox
 
Poor old Pat Buchanan, he should have known his employer was full of Nattering Nebobs of negativism. And now he is fired unless Rupert has the genius to rehire him.
 
monovillage said:
and we'll continue to repeat it as long as Democrats are (D) Democrats. If you think a political wiki page is going to magically turn a Democrat into something else you'd be wrong.
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And you will still NEVER understand that party affiliation does not dictate political philosophy. I think you are the one that likes to say, "but, Lincoln was a Republican!" All while ignoring that he was a liberal.
 
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