Passion of the Christ: 3, Fahrenheit 9/11: 0

[torpid]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: bobbybe01
Of course the Oscars won't nominate 9/11...

Why not? They voted the vastly inferior Bowling for Columbine (which I thought was dreadful) won Best Documentary. If MM hadn't removed F9/11 from consideration for Best Documentary, I'd have to believe it would've won.

I have the complete opposite opinion. I thought F911 was just ok but liked bowling for columbine. Neither were exactly brilliant, though.

 

[conjur]

I'd say Fahrenheit 9/11 had more truth in it. Although, it did give a greatly one-sided view of things and took a few quotes/scenes out of context.

The Passion of the Christ is true in that Jesus lived and was probably sold out to the high priests and was killed but that's about it.

 

[drpootums]

Fairenhiet 9/11 isnt a documentary, it's pure bull ****

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: drpootums
Fairenhiet 9/11 isnt a documentary, it's pure bull ****

So, Lila Lipscomb was making all of that up about losing a son in Iraq?

Those recruiters were a staged performance?


I question if you've even seen it.

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: conjur
I'd say Fahrenheit 9/11 had more truth in it. Although, it did give a greatly one-sided view of things and took a few quotes/scenes out of context.

The Passion of the Christ is true in that Jesus lived and was probably sold out to the high priests and was killed but that's about it.

apparently you haven't seen farenhype 9/11.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Stark

Originally posted by: conjur
I'd say Fahrenheit 9/11 had more truth in it. Although, it did give a greatly one-sided view of things and took a few quotes/scenes out of context.

The Passion of the Christ is true in that Jesus lived and was probably sold out to the high priests and was killed but that's about it.

apparently you haven't seen farenhype 9/11.

I've seen it 3 times. I own it now. The Extra Features are great. Esp. the one with the Swedish reporter going on house-to-house searches in Samarra. Shows how Abu Ghraib ended up with 70-90% of the detainees being 100% innocent.

 

[pookguy88]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: drpootums
Fairenhiet 9/11 isnt a documentary, it's pure bull ****

So, Lila Lipscomb was making all of that up about losing a son in Iraq?

Those recruiters were a staged performance?

Apparantly it was all fictional, every thing was edited in post-production!!

Moore is out to get us!!

 

[spiderrasmon]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: TheBDB

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Stark

Originally posted by: conjur
I'd say Fahrenheit 9/11 had more truth in it. Although, it did give a greatly one-sided view of things and took a few quotes/scenes out of context.

The Passion of the Christ is true in that Jesus lived and was probably sold out to the high priests and was killed but that's about it.

apparently you haven't seen farenhype 9/11.

I've seen it 3 times. I own it now. The Extra Features are great. Esp. the one with the Swedish reporter going on house-to-house searches in Samarra. Shows how Abu Ghraib ended up with 70-90% of the detainees being 100% innocent.

Yep. That was only thing I really liked about F911. If the actual movie had been more like that, I would have thought it was quite good.

 

[tarak]

It's unfortunate The Corporation or Uncovered did not get much buzz. I felt both were far more informative and less jaded than F911.

Only documentary I've seen listed was SuperSize Me, and although enjoyable (can something be enjoyable and distugusting?), I dont know about it being a documentary. The increasing number of these psudo-documentaries is getting scary.

Not really sure why you'd gloat TPOTC's nominations, since all three had little to do with the storyline, which I'm sure is why you are proud of the movie.

 

[jjones]

And another year goes by when yet again, I couldn't give a rat's ass about the Oscars.

 

[FoBoT]

what is their definition of "documentary" ?

do they just guess? or make something up each year?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Stark

Originally posted by: conjur
I'd say Fahrenheit 9/11 had more truth in it. Although, it did give a greatly one-sided view of things and took a few quotes/scenes out of context.

The Passion of the Christ is true in that Jesus lived and was probably sold out to the high priests and was killed but that's about it.

apparently you haven't seen farenhype 9/11.

I've seen it 3 times. I own it now. The Extra Features are great. Esp. the one with the Swedish reporter going on house-to-house searches in Samarra. Shows how Abu Ghraib ended up with 70-90% of the detainees being 100% innocent.

Yep. That was only thing I really liked about F911. If the actual movie had been more like that, I would have thought it was quite good.

Had there been no narration by Moore it would have been better than it was. The implications he was trying to leave in people's minds is what many are criticizing.

 

[maziwanka]

i wouldn't have nominated either for any oscar

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: DonVito
How is this a "victory"? An artistically poor, financially successful film was nominated for a few minor Academy Awards. Who cares about the Academy Awards anyway?

🙂

 

[AFB]

But, but, but Hollywood is liberal?

 

[hdeck]

they realized what a dumb move they made by giving him an oscar last year for his "documentary" and i applaud them!

 

[SilverTorch]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: drpootums
Fairenhiet 9/11 isnt a documentary, it's pure bull ****

So, Lila Lipscomb was making all of that up about losing a son in Iraq?

Those recruiters were a staged performance?


I question if you've even seen it.

Yes I have, and spinning lies and bending truth to suit Michael's anti-Bush campaign does not make it good documentary.

before throwing any more lines from the movie, read this

edit: spelling owned me 🙁

 

[SilverTorch]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy
But, but, but Hollywood is liberal?

yea, sure they are .... they just know their limits.

 

[spunkz]

F9/11 either said misleading comments or things people should know already. like that the guy who gets elected president will most likely have ties to big corporations. WHAT? REALLY?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
what is their definition of "documentary" ?

do they just guess? or make something up each year?

It is obvious that Hollywood has it's own definition of what is a documentary. If they went by the definition in any English reference dictionary "Bowling" never would have been nominated in the first place and nobody would know who Michael Moore is.

 

[raildogg]

Passion of the christ was one of the most moving and best movies I have ever seen. It brought tears into my eyes the first time I saw it.

Farenheit 9/11 is a phony movie that some clown who hates Bush made

 

[otispunkmeyer]

i like michael moore, but then again im not american and i love a guy that takes the michael out of america, and basically his own nationality. just watched bowling for columbine the other day and i liked that too

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: FoBoT
what is their definition of "documentary" ?

do they just guess? or make something up each year?

It is obvious that Hollywood has it's own definition of what is a documentary. If they went by the definition in any English reference dictionary "Bowling" never would have been nominated in the first place and nobody would know who Michael Moore is.

I dunno about that - all of his films have been quite financially successful, and IMO F9/11 was an important American film. Ironically, IMO, his Oscar-winning film, BFC, was by far his worst work - that movie was pure trash as far as I'm concerned.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: FoBoT
what is their definition of "documentary" ?

do they just guess? or make something up each year?

It is obvious that Hollywood has it's own definition of what is a documentary. If they went by the definition in any English reference dictionary "Bowling" never would have been nominated in the first place and nobody would know who Michael Moore is.

Well, I sort of agree with this. But only because it is ridiculous that BFC can be nomianted for a documentary, but earlier Errol Morris films like The Thin Blue Line, arguably the most important documentary ever made, do not qualify because they have some techniques associated with fiction films. If that film, which was not only 10x better but generally far more objective and well done, is not eligible, BFC certainly shouldn't be.