Passing up a job offer

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spidey07

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Descartes
ps - what is the single most important part of a security infrastructure and how do you implement it?

The people :D

I was going to say Education. But you do need people for that to work. :)

Funny. I would say security policy.

Business drives process. Process drives policy. Policy drives technology.

CSO duties is to meet the needs of the business and merge the needs of the business with the needs of security.
 

dquan97

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Personally, I'd interview for the position and find out if this VP that you would be sharing an office with is a nice guy.

If he is, taking a job that pays better with less overtime and help desk grunt work to do is a no brainer.

the VP might even be a hot girl! (not likely, but possibly)
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Descartes
ps - what is the single most important part of a security infrastructure and how do you implement it?

The people :D

I was going to say Education. But you do need people for that to work. :)

Funny. I would say security policy.

Business drives process. Process drives policy. Policy drives technology.

CSO duties is to meet the needs of the business and merge the needs of the business with the needs of security.

Actually you're right, that is the correct answer.
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: dquan97
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Personally, I'd interview for the position and find out if this VP that you would be sharing an office with is a nice guy.

If he is, taking a job that pays better with less overtime and help desk grunt work to do is a no brainer.

the VP might even be a hot girl! (not likely, but possibly)

Nope, he is definitely not a hot girl.
 

BillyBatson

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May 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: dcdude
too long to read

then don't bother posting either.



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i suggest you go meet with them, get a feel for the boss, the work space, maybe even meet some of the other workers there even those in other fields and ask them how they like it and what they think of the job. It may turn out decent and the guy you talked to may not be the greatest phone person and represented himself incorrectly. It wouldn't hurt just to check it out because of the benefits.
Also if you choose not to take it and stay where you are, is there any sign of something better in the future? perhaps a different posiiton with more pay and fewer hours or is it just going to get worse?
i wish you luck either way!
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: BillyBatson
Originally posted by: dcdude
too long to read

then don't bother posting either.

I thought I kept my original post very pithy; if I wanted I could have gotten into much more detail. :confused:

i suggest you go meet with them, get a feel for the boss, the work space, maybe even meet some of the other workers there even those in other fields and ask them how they like it and what they think of the job. It may turn out decent and the guy you talked to may not be the greatest phone person and represented himself incorrectly. It wouldn't hurt just to check it out because of the benefits.
Also if you choose not to take it and stay where you are, is there any sign of something better in the future? perhaps a different posiiton with more pay and fewer hours or is it just going to get worse?
i wish you luck either way!

We don't have any different positions in our department. We're all sys admins - we all do helpdesk, we all support offices, and we all have at least one specialty. It won't get worse, it will just stay the same.
 

rh71

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Simply put, you want to advance your career, move on.

Loss of freedom can be scary, but it's not like it's more hours or lesser pay or much more difficult/stressful work. It looks like you'll be learning something for sure too. I'd say take the plunge, it's not that far off...
 

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: rh71
Simply put, you want to advance your career, move on.

Loss of freedom can be scary, but it's not like it's more hours or lesser pay or much more difficult/stressful work. It looks like you'll be learning something for sure too. I'd say take the plunge, it's not that far off...

With the new job, I would be just a server guy - so although I would handle a lot of different kinds of servers and server operating systems, I wouldn't be touching any programming, web design, citrix, etc. or various other things I do now.
 

SagaLore

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I'm starting to rethink passing up the job...

I'm scheduling an interview to meet the VP either way, maybe he will end up being a nice guy. I wonder if I'll be able to get away with posting on ATOT. :Q