Parts for my FX Gaming RIG!

[kesheth]

Hello Guyz I present you the components of my RIG for The latest FX processor from AMD
Plz do comment and any suggestions are very much welcomed because I haven't bought these
Parts ,so if something is wrong then I can change it!!
1)AMD FX 8350
2)Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0
3)Corsair Vengeance DDR3 (2x4GB) 1600mhz
4)Sapphire AMD VAPOR-X HD 7950 OC with Boost 3 GB GDDR5
5)Samsund 840 series- 120GB SSD
6)Seagate Baracuda 1 TB Sata3 HDD
7)Corsair carbide 400R
8)Corsair TX-650v2 PSU (80+Bronze)
9)Cooler master hyper 212 evo!
TOTAL ~1,200$

This is a re-post into the correct section of the forum!! ;p

 

[Ken g6]

It would be helpful if you could also answer [thread=80121]a few questions[/thread]. I see you're an AMD fan and lately I can't begrudge you that, especially if you're overclocking. But what games are you playing? There are some that do much worse on AMD CPUs.

Also, $1200 feels a little high for those parts. Is it possible you did the math wrong, or left out Windows or something?

 

[kesheth]

It would be helpful if you could also answer [thread=80121]a few questions[/thread]. I see you're an AMD fan and lately I can't begrudge you that, especially if you're overclocking. But what games are you playing? There are some that do much worse on AMD CPUs.

Also, $1200 feels a little high for those parts. Is it possible you did the math wrong, or left out Windows or something?

BF3,Skyrim,Flight simulator,Farcry 3, GTA4, Max Payne, NFS series etc. Well the LIST doesn't END but primary games are thos above. And I did include Windows 8 so sorry for not mentioning!

 

[Sleepingforest]

Sooo....
1. Used for playing games.
2. No clear budget, but at least $1200 or so.
3. Probably the United States. Thus:
4. Newegg, Amazon, the usual. (Probably no Microcenter physically nearby)
5. He like AMD.
6. No current parts to be re-used.
7. Appears to be overclocking.
8. No clue. Hopefully 1080p, or he's wasting a significant amount of GPU power.
9. Hopefully within the week, or there's not really a point.
10. Needs Windows. Seems to not care between Win7 and Win8.

I'm thinking part of the budget increase must be due to the case and the expensive version of the 7950, because when I do a build:

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.45 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($100.76 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.86 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($58.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($94.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1152.69
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-04 00:48 EDT-0400)
It comes out just below $1200 before taxes. On the other hand, the GPU is a 7970 in this one, but there is no cooler (primarily because the included one isn't too bad).

 

[kesheth]

Sooo....
1. Used for playing games.
2. No clear budget, but at least $1200 or so.
3. Probably the United States. Thus:
4. Newegg, Amazon, the usual. (Probably no Microcenter physically nearby)
5. He like AMD.
6. No current parts to be re-used.
7. Appears to be overclocking.
8. No clue. Hopefully 1080p, or he's wasting a significant amount of GPU power.
9. Hopefully within the week, or there's not really a point.
10. Needs Windows. Seems to prefer Win7.

I'm thinking part of the budget increase must be due to the case and the expensive version of the 7950, because when I do a build:

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.45 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($100.76 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.86 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($58.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($94.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $1152.69
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-04 00:48 EDT-0400)
It comes out just below $1200 before taxes. On the other hand, the GPU is a 7970 in this one, but there is no cooler (primarily because the included one isn't too bad).

Yeah I did mention Windows 8 and 1080p gaming is what I want! So will the 970 extreme 3 suffice coz I have no idea if my vendor gives me the updated version of BIOS to support FX 8350 out of the Box!! And I aint planning for Crossfiring!

 

[Sleepingforest]

It should be fine. If you are fine with Win8's interface, then you might as well get it.

On the other hand, definitely get a real 7970 instead of a deluxe version of the 7950 Boost.

 

[toyota]

that is not a good power supply choice for a pc like that. that psu only makes 450 watts max on the 12v line which is a joke for a system with an 8350 and 7970 with any overclocking at all. and that is their lower end range and does have high quality parts and only is guaranteed to make it advertised power at a unrealistic 30 C.

you can find a much better power supply for hardly any more money. in fact you can probably find one on sale for about that price.

 

[kesheth]

It should be fine. If you are fine with Win8's interface, then you might as well get it.

On the other hand, definitely get a real 7970 instead of a deluxe version of the 7950 Boost.

But can you please tell me what will I lose after buying 970 board instead of 990Fx? And in anyway is GTX 680 better or 7970?

 

[Sleepingforest]

The 680 wins in some games, the 7970 wins in others. Overall, the 7970 is a better bang-for-buck purchase (since the 7970 costs less), especially if you are willing to overclock.

The 990FX chipset basically only offers quadFire over the 970 chipset (in other words, they both support the whole FX series). Observe AMD's own website:

Ready to take AMD FX processors beyond all expectation

• Full socket compatibility for AM3+ and AM3 processors with Hypertransport™ 3.0 interconnects mean you can upgrade your components when you’re ready to, and help ensure you get the most performance.

 

[kesheth]

that is not a good power supply choice for a pc like that. that psu only makes 450 watts max on the 12v line which is a joke for a system with an 8350 and 7970 with any overclocking at all. and that is their lower end range and does have high quality parts and only is guaranteed to make it advertised power at a unrealistic 30 C.

you can find a much better power supply for hardly any more money. in fact you can probably find one on sale for about that price.

Yeah you are right The PSU isn't suuficient because many people say that even slight bumps in the voltage for the AMD's really demands the Power a lot! So I have decided to go for a 970 board and a (7970- if the budget permits) and how do I get things going if the BIOS doesn't come compatible with the FX 8350?? Any suugestions anybody, on how to update the BIOS coz I cannot afford to buy a previous gen processor and then install the new one!!!

 

[Sleepingforest]

Really. At stock, with a monster graphics card, the 8350 only consumes around 350W max. I can't imagine a 500MHz overclock causing you to need 150W more.

Also, the Asus motherboard is no more likely to have a supporting BIOS. They both require a revised BIOS (which they hopefully ship with) to run a FX chip. Basically, you'll be no better off with an 990FX than a 970.

 

[toyota]

Really. At stock, with a monster graphics card, the 8350 only consumes around 350W max. I can't imagine a 500MHz overclock causing you to need 150W more.

again he does not have 500 watts to work with in the first place. that psu is not suitable to a gaming pc especially with an oced 8350 and 7970. it would be beyond foolish not to spend 20-25 bucks more for a more appropriate psu. heck even my tx650 psu was on sale for the same price as that low end builder series.

 

[Sleepingforest]

Then get a Corsair Builder 600W instead. No need to spend $35 more when you could spend $10 more (the TX is floating around $90 right now).

I still don't believe a 500MHz overclock (possible with only a very slight voltage increase) would cause that much power increase. Here's a baseline with a GTX 680 and 8350; it never goes over 375W. Overclocked to 4.8GHz, it consumes around 360W at absolute maximum load (all cores loaded with Prime95) with no graphics card but in a full system otherwise.

A full system, with an i7-3960X overclocked to 4.3GHz and a stock 7970 GHz (in other words, at a higher voltage already), consumed only 376W, and with a 7970 GHz overclocked consumed 485W at most. If you want absolute perfect security, I suppose 600W is appropriate. But I doubt he's going to overclock it quite that far.

 

[toyota]

OP stay away from the builders series for your gaming pc and look for a much higher quality psu on sale.

 

[kesheth]

I have opted rather to go for a TX650v2 or S12II 620W (whichever is cheap)! I do wanna point out on one thing that the M5A99FX PRO R2.0 comes with USB flashback BIOS so I feel that might come very handy! And I do wanna future-proof my system as long as possible coz these all are one time investments!!! I might re-consider the decision buying the GTX 680 or rather 7970 or rather 7950!! ,depending on the pocket size!!
But won't the GTX 670 be more than enough?

 

[Sleepingforest]

OP stay away from the builders series for your gaming pc and look for a much higher quality psu on sale.

The CX series is by no means bad. It is constructed by Channel Well, which is respectable enough, and has no serious design flaws. Sure, it uses Teapo and Samxon caps, but those are by no means bad. Check out a professional review, complete with disassembly, here.

If he was a bit obessive, the S12II is very good and $76 after shipping. Sure, if he wants to pay 25% more, he can, but it's not really necessary.

The 7970 and 7950 are a bit superior for "future-proof" in terms of having a wider memory bus, so go for those. The BIOS flashback isn't really useful, because you should never need to upgrade the BIOS (people only do so when they feel exceptionally adventurous, since it usually provides little to no benefit and is very risky in terms of the chance of bricking your system).

On the other hand, let me tell you now: futureproofing is a fools errand. It's far better to save a bit now and spend it later than to try and get top-performing parts now and not upgrade for several years.

 

[toyota]

The CX series is by no means bad. It is constructed by Channel Well, which is respectable enough, and has no serious design flaws. Sure, it uses Teapo and Samxon caps, but those are by no means bad. Check out a professional review, complete with disassembly, here.

I know all about the builder series. again its NOT appropriate to put in gaming pc with an oced 8350 and 7970. for only a little more money a more suitable and much more robust psu can be had.

 

[Sleepingforest]

I know all about the builder series. again its NOT appropriate to put in gaming pc with an oced 8350 and 7970. for only a little more money a more suitable and much more robust psu can be had.

I suppose it is only 0.5-2% more overall when the whole build is considered (it's $76 for the S12II vs $66 for a CX600 vs $60 for a CX500). I'm just saying, from the absolute prospective of watts consumed, there is no proof that a gently overclocked 8350 and a 7970 will consume more than 500W. I linked to an overclocked Sandy Bridge-E and 7970GHz. Guess what? They only consumed 485W together.

Sure, you could play it safe and get a 600-650W PSU. But that's not really the part that's going to fail first if you overclock your parts so hard as to actually need that wattage.

 

[kesheth]

Ohk so finally should I go ahead for a 7970, 8350 and Corsair GS 600W PSU and a 970 chipset mobo?

 

[lehtv]

At current prices, OCZ ZT750W is a winner. Only $60 after rebate and promo. It is 80+ bronze, fully modular, covered by 5 yr warranty, and well reviewed.

It's not quite clear to me why you have to get an FX 8350. I would much rather get a 3570K. Better performance per core and thus better performance in games, much lower power consumption, backup integrated graphics.

 

[kesheth]

Ohk so finally, what should I buy? Plz make me a List of your choices of parts for a gaming rig and Intel as well as AMD platforms will do great! And my budget is somewer around 1200$ not more than that, and I wanna play any game I throw at it in 1080p !!!!!

 

[mfenn]

At current prices, OCZ ZT750W is a winner. Only $60 after rebate and promo. It is 80+ bronze, fully modular, covered by 5 yr warranty, and well reviewed.

It's not quite clear to me why you have to get an FX 8350. I would much rather get a 3570K. Better performance per core and thus better performance in games, much lower power consumption, backup integrated graphics.

Agree 100%

Ohk so finally, what should I buy? Plz make me a List of your choices of parts for a gaming rig and Intel as well as AMD platforms will do great! And my budget is somewer around 1200$ not more than that, and I wanna play any game I throw at it in 1080p !!!!!

Here ya go. Less than $1000 for a 3570K, 7970, SSD, etc. Add $100 for Windows 8 and you're sitting at $1100.

 

[kesheth]

At current prices, OCZ ZT750W is a winner. Only $60 after rebate and promo. It is 80+ bronze, fully modular, covered by 5 yr warranty, and well reviewed.

It's not quite clear to me why you have to get an FX 8350. I would much rather get a 3570K. Better performance per core and thus better performance in games, much lower power consumption, backup integrated graphics.

Dude how much did you pay for your system build, the one as a quote in your message!?

 

[kesheth]

Agree 100%



Here ya go. Less than $1000 for a 3570K, 7970, SSD, etc. Add $100 for Windows 8 and you're sitting at $1100.

Thanks a lot dude I might decide on what to buy but hey, thanks for saving me from the pain staking process of selecting the 3570k with the equivalent board and that compatibility stuff!

 

[kesheth]

Can the MSI 660ti PE be a better option for my rig coz its a bit cheap and is reviewed to be better than a 7950 O.C.!!!?
Will the seasonice S12-II suffice for the overall needs of the rig with a 660ti?