Partial birth abortion poll

[AreaCode707]

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[conjur]

I don't think people are in favor of abortion. Pro-abortion is a meme from the right. Pro-choice, however, is another story.

Your poll is poorly worded.


How about:

abortion - just because it's convenient (no way, no how, imo)
abortion - when the mother's life is in danger (should be allowed)
partial-birth - No way...if you've gone through 2 trimesters and are healthy, no 3rd-term abortions.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: conjur
I don't think people are in favor of abortion. Pro-abortion is a meme from the right. Pro-choice, however, is another story.

Your poll is poorly worded.


How about:

abortion - just because it's convenient (no way, no how, imo)
abortion - when the mother's life is in danger (should be allowed)
partial-birth - No way...if you've gone through 2 trimesters and are healthy, no 3rd-term abortions.

How about the 2nd option being (or add another option)...

Abortion - when there's a case of rape, incest or mother's life is in danger.

 

[rickn]

I am against partial birth abortion, and against any abortion that isn't medically necessary. some women use abortion like it's birth control. Instead of an abortion, rip out their damn uterus

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: rickn
I am against partial birth abortion, and against any abortion that isn't medically necessary. some women use abortion like it's birth control. Instead of an abortion, rip out their damn uterus

"There once lived an old lady that lived in a shoe. She had so many kids, he uterus fell out. OH!" --- Andrew Dice Clay 😉

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: conjur
I don't think people are in favor of abortion. Pro-abortion is a meme from the right. Pro-choice, however, is another story.

Your poll is poorly worded.


How about:

abortion - just because it's convenient (no way, no how, imo)
abortion - when the mother's life is in danger (should be allowed)
partial-birth - No way...if you've gone through 2 trimesters and are healthy, no 3rd-term abortions.

Reworded the question part to address legalizing. You're right, was poorly worded. And added the special circumstance choice.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: rickn
I am against partial birth abortion, and against any abortion that isn't medically necessary. some women use abortion like it's birth control. Instead of an abortion, rip out their damn uterus

"There once lived an old lady that lived in a shoe. She had so many kids, he uterus fell out. OH!" --- Andrew Dice Clay 😉

I know that one, hehe

Little miss muffet, sat on her tuffet eating her curds and whey, along came a spider, sat down beside, and said "What's in the bowl B!tch"

 

[jackschmittusa]

"Partial birth abortion" is not a medical term, and therefore is not sufficiently descriptive to offer an opinion about. It is a term coined specifically to evoke an emotional response. I would rather discuss things on an intellectual level, rather than an emotional level. the term was designed by a group with an agenda, and maybe it's just me, but I associate anyone who uses the term with the agenda.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
"Partial birth abortion" is not a medical term, and therefore is not sufficiently descriptive to offer an opinion about. It is a term coined specifically to evoke an emotional response. I would rather discuss things on an intellectual level, rather than an emotional level. the term was designed by a group with an agenda, and maybe it's just me, but I associate anyone who uses the term with the agenda.

so call it a late term abortion. either way, it's a gross procedure

 

[Tab]

Your poll sucks.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
"Partial birth abortion" is not a medical term, and therefore is not sufficiently descriptive to offer an opinion about. It is a term coined specifically to evoke an emotional response. I would rather discuss things on an intellectual level, rather than an emotional level. the term was designed by a group with an agenda, and maybe it's just me, but I associate anyone who uses the term with the agenda.

so call it a late term abortion. either way, it's a gross procedure

And either way it's 'grossness' is irrelevent to the discussion.

For the record, I don't think IDE should be allowed except if there is pressing medical need.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
"Partial birth abortion" is not a medical term, and therefore is not sufficiently descriptive to offer an opinion about. It is a term coined specifically to evoke an emotional response. I would rather discuss things on an intellectual level, rather than an emotional level. the term was designed by a group with an agenda, and maybe it's just me, but I associate anyone who uses the term with the agenda.

so call it a late term abortion. either way, it's a gross procedure

And either way it's 'grossness' is irrelevent to the discussion.

For the record, I don't think IDE should be allowed except if there is pressing medical need.

they suck the babies brains out of his head, I guess you could call it a day at the beach if you wanted too

 

[Tab]

It's still irrelevent and ILLEGAL.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
"Partial birth abortion" is not a medical term, and therefore is not sufficiently descriptive to offer an opinion about. It is a term coined specifically to evoke an emotional response. I would rather discuss things on an intellectual level, rather than an emotional level. the term was designed by a group with an agenda, and maybe it's just me, but I associate anyone who uses the term with the agenda.

It describes the actual procedure a lot better than the 'medical term' intact dilation and extraction, which is merely a euphemism attempting to hide the terrible nature of this procedure in which the fetus IS partially born. It is not, however, intact when extracted, as its brain is suctioned out and its skull crushed. Thus, the term 'partial-birth abortion' is more correct than 'intact dilation and extraction.' But I guess you have to avoid answering the real question somehow, huh?

Originally posted by: Tabb
It's still irrelevent and ILLEGAL.

NO IT IS NOT! Why do you insist on claiming that late-term abortions are illegal? Have you never seen the news? The 'partial-birth abortion ban' that was signed into law at the federal level has been overturned by the courts.

 

[SuperTool]

I am for abortion rights, and letting the doctor and the woman decide what the safest method is without government interference.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: rickn
they suck the babies brains out of his head, I guess you could call it a day at the beach if you wanted too

How they do it is irrelevent - either late-term abortion is acceptable or it isn't.

I say it isn't, whatever the method, unless it is due to severe complications in a pregnancy that place the mother at significant risk.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Well, we could call war "just killing sh*tloads of people" too; which would be far more accurate; but would be an obvious ploy to evoke an emotional response instead of a discussion based on intellect.

Seems funny really, that for all of the times people leap to point out fallacies of logic in these forums, there are people who defend the use of terms that are designed to bypass logical thinking.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Well, we could call war "just killing sh*tloads of people" too; which would be far more accurate; but would be an obvious ploy to evoke an emotional response instead of a discussion based on intellect.

Seems funny really, that for all of the times people leap to point out fallacies of logic in these forums, there are people who defend the use of terms that are designed to bypass logical thinking.

Are you going to argue with what I said, maybe even address the OP, or just call everyone illogical?

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: rickn
I am against partial birth abortion, and against any abortion that isn't medically necessary. some women use abortion like it's birth control. Instead of an abortion, rip out their damn uterus

Not true. Thats a lie perpetuated by the anti-abortion right.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I am for abortion rights, and letting the doctor and the woman decide what the safest method is without government interference.

I agree 100%.

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
How they do it is irrelevent - either late-term abortion is acceptable or it isn't.

I also agree with this point 100%.

 

[Spencer278]

I don't think the method makes a bit of differnce and any laws should be base on time. Doctors should perform what ever method is best for the mother.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: homercles337
Not true. Thats a lie perpetuated by the anti-abortion right.

So you're saying 1.33 million abortions per year, in the US alone, are performed to protect the life of the mother?

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: homercles337
Not true. Thats a lie perpetuated by the anti-abortion right.

So you're saying 1.33 million abortions per year, in the US alone, are performed to protect the life of the mother?

While I'm not defending it - as I'm against it - but most abortions are during the first tri-mester, where it is actually safer for the mother to have an abortion than to have the child. (This is the logic used in Roe v Wade and is why first tri-mester is subject to the least possible restrictions)

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Strk
While I'm not defending it - as I'm against it - but most abortions are during the first tri-mester, where it is actually safer for the mother to have an abortion than to have the child. (This is the logic used in Roe v Wade and is why first tri-mester is subject to the least possible restrictions)

But... that... has nothing to do with the question I asked.

 

[Strk]

So you're saying 1.33 million abortions per year, in the US alone, are performed to protect the life of the mother?

Going by this question, yes, what I said has everything to do with the question you asked - at least medically speaking. Now, I do not believe anywhere near that number is actually in the category of life threatening, but that's not what you asked.