Paris mayor to sue Fox News over parroting the Muslim no-go zones

[HomerJS]

Someone going to hold Fox News responsible for the bullshit they put out over the air?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...false-report-on-muslim-no-go-zones/ar-AA8p34X

“When we’re insulted, and when we’ve had an image, then I think we’ll have to sue, I think we’ll have to go to court, in order to have these words removed,” Mayor Anne Hidalgo told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Tuesday. “The image of Paris has been prejudiced, and the honor of Paris has been prejudiced.”

Fox even made up maps with these phony no-go zones

Fox and Friends even broadcast a map outlining seven such zones.

 

[brycejones]

Its not the fault of Fox News it turned out to be wrong.....

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm not holding my breath. If nations could sue for being "insulted" then there would no press, not just Fox. Well, maybe there's not much of one now, but the principle remains.

 

[Darwin333]

I'm not holding my breath. If nations could sue for being "insulted" then there would no press, not just Fox. Well, maybe there's not much of one now, but the principle remains.

Hey asshole you just insulted me with that post! I'm suing your ass!!!

 

[Double Trouble]

Yawn. Someone somewhere is insulted by something. Who cares, I'm sure fox doesn't. In fact, I think Fox will play it up and get more ratings from it.

 

[nickqt]

Yawn. Someone somewhere is insulted by something. Who cares, I'm sure fox doesn't. In fact, I think Fox will play it up and get more ratings from it.

Fox News play the victim card after vomiting out an outright falsehood, in order to sell more ads and claim libruul bias?

No way.

Maybe they'll invite KKKliven Bundy on to share his views on the No Go zones he enforces on the Federales.

 

[DrPizza]

Silly France. Fox already went to court over their right to lie, and won.

 

[smackababy]

Once this is challenged in court, the French will fold and settle, paying Fox News and sincerely apologizing. That is their way.

 

[soundforbjt]

Silly France. Fox already went to court over their right to lie, and won.

:thumbsup:

 

[Jadow]

misleading headline.

 

[Spungo]

Silly France. Fox already went to court over their right to lie, and won.

I blame the constitution. With enough twisting, documents can mean whatever the hell lawyers want them to mean. Ability to make shit up and intentionally mislead millions of people? Freedom of speech. Young earth creationism in science class? Freedom of speech. Refusing to get vaccinated and risking the lives of other children at school? Freedom of speech if you consider catching mumps a form of protest. The constitution is used to justify all kinds of stupid crap, but it's never used to justify things one would actually consider human rights. Right to not be tortured? Sorry, but you don't have that right, Bradley Manning. Right to falsely claim Europe has hundreds of shariah law zones? Yeah that's totally covered by the constitution. wtf?

 

[Moonbeam]

Fox News is the natural 0product of a brain defect. It serves the vital function of displaying that defect for the world to see. Fox News is the puke that comes from poisoned minds that were they unable to puke would lead to a mass psychosis. To beat a child out of a tantrum is to produce a cold blooded killer. If a stomach had no capacity to belch it could explode. We don't have our toilets fill to the rim and there's always a way to flush them. We have canaries with melodious song and then we have crows. Boils are best lanced.

 

[Blanky]

Good. Even if they lose it makes Fox look like the idiots they are. Paris need not win a lawsuit. They've already done the damage by even mentioning it.

I am hoping some of the people on these forums who have also taken this no-go line and ran with it will come into this thread and admit they were absolutely wrong.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Unless Fox News was airing some hour long special on how France eats children, rapes animals and is planning to blow up the entire world,.. France has nothing.

Fox fucked up. And, this fuck up wasn't exactly nation shattering.

France should have just released a public statement, pretty much shaming the integrity of Fox, and moved on. This outrage posturing is just stupid.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Good. Even if they lose it makes Fox look like the idiots they are. Paris need not win a lawsuit. They've already done the damage by even mentioning it.

I am hoping some of the people on these forums who have also taken this no-go line and ran with it will come into this thread and admit they were absolutely wrong.

What damage? First, Fox is a US corporation and not French. As such just how is Paris going to sue for insults? It has no legal jurisdiction. Second, as Dr. Pizza has said Fox is not accountable (nor is any other news agency) for what they did. Their opposite, MSNBC, would be sliced, diced, and fried if held accountable as virtually every other agency would if such lawsuits were allowed.

So this lawsuit isn't going anywhere and you really don't want it to do so whether you realize that or not. What will happen? Nothing. The overwhelming majority can be divided into three groups. First the Fox haters. They will always hate Fox, but probably have their own ideological favorites. Then there's the Fox followers, who will defend them and oppose the Fox haters and their sources. Those two groups occupy the opposite polar regions. Like our geographical polar zones there are relatively few who live there. The vast majority are in between and who are they? They are the "I really don't give a flying you-know-what" people. Almost no one cares about Fox or MSNBC and they certainly don't care about the wounded ego of Parisians, who the French themselves don't much care for.

There won't be any consequences. No one will change their minds about any of this. You'll love, hate or not care about this. For my part I'm glad it won't go anywhere, but not because of Fox, but because of the precedent it would set where governments worldwide could destroy the press so easily. I'm not a fan of that.

 

[smackababy]

So this lawsuit isn't going anywhere and you really don't want it to do so whether you realize that or not. What will happen? Nothing. T set where governments worldwide could destroy the press so easily. I'm not a fan of that.

I am not exactly sure on the laws in France, but if they sue in a French court, it could "go somewhere". I mean, Fox News will likely just not attend any hearings, Paris will win, and Fox News will be fined in Paris, to which they won't pay. Effectively, this does nothing, but the lawsuit could "succeed".

 

[waggy]

those that hate fox should really be against this. It would set a bad precedence. Since NO news channel is right (or honest) %100 of the time.

Eventually we will have another GOP President. You know that cnn/cnbc etc will say something wrong.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I am not exactly sure on the laws in France, but if they sue in a French court, it could "go somewhere". I mean, Fox News will likely just not attend any hearings, Paris will win, and Fox News will be fined in Paris, to which they won't pay. Effectively, this does nothing, but the lawsuit could "succeed".

And if they act against reporters in retaliation? We have problems all over the world where journalists are arrested because the parent organizations said something which a government didn't like. The Parisian mayor may be fit to be tied, but will the French government proper allow this to go far? On that I have no idea. I think Fox would not ignore a true legal attack though. The mayor did her job by getting all pissed off and bitching. I'm not sure if she wants to take this as far as possible, but IDK.

 

[IronWing]

I think if business owners in Fox's fabricated no-go areas could demonstrate a loss of business tied to Fox's lies then they would have a case for going after the network. Otherwise, there ain't much here.

 

[fskimospy]

What damage? First, Fox is a US corporation and not French. As such just how is Paris going to sue for insults? It has no legal jurisdiction. Second, as Dr. Pizza has said Fox is not accountable (nor is any other news agency) for what they did. Their opposite, MSNBC, would be sliced, diced, and fried if held accountable as virtually every other agency would if such lawsuits were allowed.

So this lawsuit isn't going anywhere and you really don't want it to do so whether you realize that or not. What will happen? Nothing. The overwhelming majority can be divided into three groups. First the Fox haters. They will always hate Fox, but probably have their own ideological favorites. Then there's the Fox followers, who will defend them and oppose the Fox haters and their sources. Those two groups occupy the opposite polar regions. Like our geographical polar zones there are relatively few who live there. The vast majority are in between and who are they? They are the "I really don't give a flying you-know-what" people. Almost no one cares about Fox or MSNBC and they certainly don't care about the wounded ego of Parisians, who the French themselves don't much care for.

There won't be any consequences. No one will change their minds about any of this. You'll love, hate or not care about this. For my part I'm glad it won't go anywhere, but not because of Fox, but because of the precedent it would set where governments worldwide could destroy the press so easily. I'm not a fan of that.

1. Actually I'm willing to bet News Corp (the company that owns Fox) has assets and offices in France, so they are within the reach of French law.

2. Fox is also vulnerable to defamation lawsuits, particularly in Europe where the standards are different.

3. Fox did not win a right to lie, and there is in fact no such right anywhere. (if that were the case we couldn't have libel or defamation suits)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/foxlies.asp

I haven't followed this super closely, but the press certainly has no right to defame anyone. If Fox actually committed such an offense we should all be ok with them being sued over it. I don't know how the law is in France, but in the US the standard for defamation is super high, no matter who is suing. If you are found liable for it you REALLY fucked up.

 

[smackababy]

I haven't followed this super closely, but the press certainly has no right to defame anyone. If Fox actually committed such an offense we should all be ok with them being sued over it. I don't know how the law is in France, but in the US the standard for defamation is super high, no matter who is suing. If you are found liable for it you REALLY fucked up.

Fox News could never be found guilty of defamation because no reasonable person would believe what they 'report'.

 

[Mani]

As if we needed any more proof that FN is a bunch of idiots dreaming up fantasies for other idiots.

 

[trenchfoot]

More than any other "news" outlet by a wide margin, and by quoting "news" I'm being way more generous than I should, Fox disseminates distorted and/or totally fabricated information on a regular basis.

Comparing Fox with the other news outlets to justify spreading lies and rumors at the rate Fox does is just dripping with false equivalency and simply ignores the facts of the matter.

Fox stands head over heels over their competition for the outright blatant and wanton disregard for the "fair and balanced" news they are so apt to disingenuously distort at a whim. That "fair and balanced" motto of theirs is a perfect example of what their true nature and intent really is.

To defend Fox and their agenda is not so much to defend freedom of speech, it's to defend their right to be dishonest profit makers at the expense of the truth of some very important issues that in part form our opinion and decision making processes.

To clarify, Fox influences our right to vote, to decide whether to go to war or not, to support or not support unjust social practices and other important issues that literally make up the fabric of our nation.

To have Fox not be held responsible for their actions is to give them unrestricted license to hawk hourly delivered agenda driven propagandistic lies and half truths that is meant to divide and conquer for the benefit of the select few that wish it so.

In my view, that's some fairly damaging power and influence to hold sway over the nation.

 

[Anubis]

Silly France. Fox already went to court over their right to lie, and won.

yep they did. im pretty sure most don't know about it however

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

1. Actually I'm willing to bet News Corp (the company that owns Fox) has assets and offices in France, so they are within the reach of French law.

2. Fox is also vulnerable to defamation lawsuits, particularly in Europe where the standards are different.

3. Fox did not win a right to lie, and there is in fact no such right anywhere. (if that were the case we couldn't have libel or defamation suits)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/foxlies.asp

I haven't followed this super closely, but the press certainly has no right to defame anyone. If Fox actually committed such an offense we should all be ok with them being sued over it. I don't know how the law is in France, but in the US the standard for defamation is super high, no matter who is suing. If you are found liable for it you REALLY fucked up.

I'm sure they have assets in France simply because they report from there.

Now if I defame Washington DC, does it have a right to sue me?