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Parents Try To Oust Gay Couple's Kids From School

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Originally posted by: piasabird
What happens if the school teaches that it is a sin to be Gay and the kids get confused and come home and ask their parents about it?

Actually, the Catholic dogma is that it is not a sin to BE gay or homosexual, or even to have homosexual thoughts or desires - rather it is only a sin to actually HAVE homosexual sex. Homosexual sex is considered (by Catholics) a subset of the larger group of sins involving sex for non-procreative purpose, outside the framework of a heterosexual marriage. Homosexuality is considered (by the Vatican scholars) as no greater a sin than masturbation, or heterosexual sex outside of marriage, or use of a condom within marriage to prevent pregnancy. Therefore, unless it can be proven that this gay couple are actually having gay sex on a regular basis, I don't see how it can be known with any certainty that they are actually living in sin. Perhaps they are entirely celibate. Assuming they are having sex, their sin can be considered (as per Catholic dogma) no greater than the sin of a parent who masturbates, or the sin of parents who use condoms during sex to prevent pregnancy. Unless this group of disgruntled parents has set up a spy cam in the gay couple's bedroom, and know for a fact that the two men are scr$wing each other, then the idea that the two men are sinning is a mere assumption. 🙂

Also, it is not a sin to attend a gay pride parade, or to support gay rights, or to oppose discrimination against gay people. In Catholicism, the sin is the actual sex outside the context of marriage (or sex that has no chance of leading to procreation.)


 
aidanjm, dude do you ever make any other threads other than those concerning homosexuality? Dude, I think you need serious counseling or something. You are dogmatic about homosexuality. Looks like thats all you think about or center your everyday life around.
 
Originally posted by: classy
aidanjm, dude do you ever make any other threads other than those concerning homosexuality? Dude, I think you need serious counseling or something. You are dogmatic about homosexuality. Looks like thats all you think about or center your everyday life around.

Are you concerned for my welfare, classy? I am touched. :heart:

 
Originally posted by: classy
aidanjm, dude do you ever make any other threads other than those concerning homosexuality? Dude, I think you need serious counseling or something. You are dogmatic about homosexuality. Looks like thats all you think about or center your everyday life around.

By the way:
This is a politics forum. When I am here, I talk about the political stuff that interests me. I am interested in gay rights (among other stuff). So that is one of the things I talk about on this forum. If you spend any time here, you will observe that many people here have their pet issues. It's not that uncommon. Therefore I wonder why you have decided that my talking about gay rights is a sign of mental illness. Is it a sign of mental illness when people here talk constantly about Iraq, or abstinence, or the religious right? Lots of people here are "dogmatic" in their opinions on george Bush, WMDs, etc. Do they also need serious counseling or something? Maybe, just maybe, it to be expected that individuals on this forum will talk about the controversial issues of the day that interest them?

Here is a thread of mine that doesn't pertain to homosexuality. I posted it at the same time I posted this thread. It has about 5 responses. This (gay) thread has 50+ responses. So there at least a few people (other than myself) who are also interested in discussing gay stuff.
 
I went to this school a long time ago..One this for sure in CA the conservatives are more conservative than anyplace else. OC is mecca of RR.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Slow down there, Chief. It's not the school that's choosing to do anything or not, it's other parents who have kids in the school. The school did accept him, and seems to be in fact defending his right to go there, despite his parents sexual preference.

Yes, I'm wrong. I didn't read the article in full - too busy at the office. If this is the case, then let's see who will win out - the school which needs students for $$$ or the parents who pay for their kids to go to that school. What it comes down to is how much money will they lose if they allow the kid with the gay parents to attend that school. I don't think they will be using that as an advertising point to get other kids - "Come to St. XXX school where we welcome all gay kids and kids with gay parents." So in the end, it is a financially losing situation if they keep this kid in their school.
 
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Slow down there, Chief. It's not the school that's choosing to do anything or not, it's other parents who have kids in the school. The school did accept him, and seems to be in fact defending his right to go there, despite his parents sexual preference.

Yes, I'm wrong. I didn't read the article in full - too busy at the office. If this is the case, then let's see who will win out - the school which needs students for $$$ or the parents who pay for their kids to go to that school. What it comes down to is how much money will they lose if they allow the kid with the gay parents to attend that school. I don't think they will be using that as an advertising point to get other kids - "Come to St. XXX school where we welcome all gay kids and kids with gay parents." So in the end, it is a financially losing situation if they keep this kid in their school.

The kids themselves aren't gay, they are only in kindergarten, for fvck's sake. They don't even have a sexual orientation yet. If the school is run by the Cathlic Church, then they have deep pockets, and could financially withstand any boycott by disgruntled parents.
 
Some of these religious people really scare me.

I fear if they don't get their way they'll become like the KKK and start burning crosses on the gay people's lawn.
Pretty soon we'll have this huge news report that the group went too far and hung (as in the noose to the death) the gay couple and their kids.
 
Originally posted by: Freejack2
Some of these religious people really scare me.

I fear if they don't get their way they'll become like the KKK and start burning crosses on the gay people's lawn.
Pretty soon we'll have this huge news report that the group went too far and hung (as in the noose to the death) the gay couple and their kids.

And all the while they leave A PLANK STUCK IN THEIR OWN EYE 😉
 
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Slow down there, Chief. It's not the school that's choosing to do anything or not, it's other parents who have kids in the school. The school did accept him, and seems to be in fact defending his right to go there, despite his parents sexual preference.

Yes, I'm wrong. I didn't read the article in full - too busy at the office. If this is the case, then let's see who will win out - the school which needs students for $$$ or the parents who pay for their kids to go to that school. What it comes down to is how much money will they lose if they allow the kid with the gay parents to attend that school. I don't think they will be using that as an advertising point to get other kids - "Come to St. XXX school where we welcome all gay kids and kids with gay parents." So in the end, it is a financially losing situation if they keep this kid in their school.

yea, but then some parents might pull their kids out if the school compromises its beliefs for the sake of monetary gain. "Come to St. XXX school where we discriminate against little kids for $$$" is not a great advertising slogan either.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Yeah, it's tyrranical.

There's a lot of parents, like myself, who don't want their kids to be exposed to the secular humanism taught in public schools. Fortunately, I have the financial resources to pay school tax plus pay tuition at the school I want my kids to attend.

A lot of parents don't have that luxury.

What do you have against freedom of choice?

You aren't looking for freedom of choice, you're looking for the freedom to brainwash your children without being bothered about things like "facts" and "science" and "reason."

Shameful. People like you should have their testicals removed BEFORE they reproduce. Preferably by a cat.

Jason
 
From article "The teachings of the church seem to have been abandoned," said parent John R. Nixon. "We send our children to a Catholic school because we expect and demand that the teachings of our church will be adhered to. If our Catholic school is no longer teaching and living Catholic doctrine, we might as well send our children to public schools."

Perhaps the teaching of religious dogma should be kept in church.

Besides, the Catholic schools have been educating non-Catholic children for a long time. I really don't think they have a right to not teach a child because of the parents lifestyle; especially not when the parents are footing the bill. If the church has a problem with the parents, they can not accept the tuition check.

alzan
 
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