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Parents' house got broken into again today

jtvang125

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Here's the thread from the first incident:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...297496&highlight_key=y

They were ready to clear out the house this time. Maybe they did, I don't know. Still waiting on more info. From the info I was given so far they tore down a section of the wooden fence by the garage to gain full access to the backyard. From there they forced the rear sliding glass door opened. Whether that tripped the alarm or the motion detector did I don't know yet. The alarm company dispatched the cops after verifying with my parents if anyone was home. The fvcking sad thing was my sister actually got there before the cops did. 30 minutes later they arrive and my sister finds out he's just there to take a report and can't even go inside the house cause the thieves could still be inside. The last bit of info while talking to my sister before we hung up was that they were waiting for the real cops to show up.

I know I'm directing my anger at the wrong people but I don't think anyone can deny that that's huge failure on the police's end. Times like this just makes you want to take vigilante actions. What a great way to ruin a weekend.
 
I have an acquaintance that's a cop and he's flat out told me that I'd better be able to defend my home for upwards of 30 min. alone because it can take that long to get a response from them. And this is in the suburbs.
 
This is why I keep a loaded .40 near the bed. When seconds count, the police will be there in minutes.

(This being the lag time between when you call the cops and when they show up)
 
If your parents are too old/scared of owning a gun, I would recommend a protective dog.

Personal protection is something that most people laugh at (especially in the suburbs) until it is too late.
 
Originally posted by: jtvang125
I know I'm directing my anger at the wrong people but I don't think anyone can deny that that's huge failure on the police's end. Times like this just makes you want to take vigilante actions. What a great way to ruin a weekend.

As I indicated in your previous thread (with this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBcNpXmr-Ps ) I think you vastly overestimate what cops do. If you want to protect your home, get a gun. The cops don't all converge on a house at a moment's notice when there is no one in the home who is in danger. Burglar alarms are a low priority.
 
Originally posted by: OCguy
If your parents are too old/scared of owning a gun, I would recommend a protective dog.

Personal protection is something that most people laugh at (especially in the suburbs) until it is too late.

Oh, they have plenty of guns (3 rifles and 3 shotguns). It's just kinda hard to use it when you're not home when it happens.
 
Old people is easy picking. Your parents got cased. Doesn't sound like your parents did anything to upgrade home security. Those home alarm systems are useless. Perhaps they should buy a couple pitbulls and put them in the yard and upgrade the doors and windows. If they live in the ghetto, it's a good idea to install metal gates in the front and back entrance. Installing motion sensor floor lights at the front and back door is also a good idea.
 
Originally posted by: jtvang125
Originally posted by: OCguy
If your parents are too old/scared of owning a gun, I would recommend a protective dog.

Personal protection is something that most people laugh at (especially in the suburbs) until it is too late.

Oh, they have plenty of guns (3 rifles and 3 shotguns). It's just kinda hard to use it when you're not home when it happens.

So, just so I got it right,

1. Nobody was home
2. The alarm may have been triggered, in which case the alarm company has to call you to make sure and then call the police to tell them about the alarm and then dispatch tells the cops about the alarm.

And its the police's fault how? Alarms are meant to deter people from breaking in in the first place, not for an insta-swarm of SWAT on your house when the door opens.
 
Originally posted by: Hoober
I have an acquaintance that's a cop and he's flat out told me that I'd better be able to defend my home for upwards of 30 min. alone because it can take that long to get a response from them. And this is in the suburbs.

HA. If that causes you to worry, I'd suggest not looking into most ambulance response/drop off at hospital times.

A word to the wise, unless there was a significant (c-spine related) trauma or something completely unmanageable, it is in your absolute best interest to call your neighbor and get them to drive you to the hospital.
 
Originally posted by: krylon
Originally posted by: jtvang125
The fvcking sad thing was my sister actually got there before the cops did. .

:camera: of sister?

i love this place

your parents clearly need a moat with sharks with laser beams on their heads and a remote-control drawbridge
 
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Hoober
I have an acquaintance that's a cop and he's flat out told me that I'd better be able to defend my home for upwards of 30 min. alone because it can take that long to get a response from them. And this is in the suburbs.

HA. If that causes you to worry, I'd suggest not looking into most ambulance response/drop off at hospital times.

A word to the wise, unless there was a significant (c-spine related) trauma or something completely unmanageable, it is in your absolute best interest to call your neighbor and get them to drive you to the hospital.

What shit hole do you live in?
When my daughter was born, we called 911 and had an ambulance at our place within 5 minutes. She was at the hospital 15 minutes after 911 was called.
 
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: jtvang125
Originally posted by: OCguy
If your parents are too old/scared of owning a gun, I would recommend a protective dog.

Personal protection is something that most people laugh at (especially in the suburbs) until it is too late.

Oh, they have plenty of guns (3 rifles and 3 shotguns). It's just kinda hard to use it when you're not home when it happens.

So, just so I got it right,

1. Nobody was home
2. The alarm may have been triggered, in which case the alarm company has to call you to make sure and then call the police to tell them about the alarm and then dispatch tells the cops about the alarm.

And its the police's fault how? Alarms are meant to deter people from breaking in in the first place, not for an insta-swarm of SWAT on your house when the door opens.

My parents use to do janitoral service for a small grocery store and a few restaurants in the same plaza. One night my brother and nephew while helping my parents out tripped the alarm. This was past 11 at night. In 5 minutes there were 3 cop cars outside with guns drawn on my brother and nephew.

I'm not expecting that kind of response but at least dispatch the correct officers to properly handle the situation.
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Hoober
I have an acquaintance that's a cop and he's flat out told me that I'd better be able to defend my home for upwards of 30 min. alone because it can take that long to get a response from them. And this is in the suburbs.

HA. If that causes you to worry, I'd suggest not looking into most ambulance response/drop off at hospital times.

A word to the wise, unless there was a significant (c-spine related) trauma or something completely unmanageable, it is in your absolute best interest to call your neighbor and get them to drive you to the hospital.

What shit hole do you live in?
When my daughter was born, we called 911 and had an ambulance at our place within 5 minutes. She was at the hospital 15 minutes after 911 was called.
Surely you can understand that staffing, coverage area and response times can vary across the country? I live in an area where homes are on acreage. There is a very low population density here. We're covered by the State Police. We have a post within 7 miles of our home that has just had it's staffing cut by 25% due to budget cutbacks. That post covers an area 4 times larger than the township in which I live. As was said by earlier posters, alarm calls for private residences are low priority.

I'm always amazed when people think that how it is where they live, is how it is everywhere.
 
Originally posted by: jtvang125
My parents use to do janitoral service for a small grocery store and a few restaurants in the same plaza. One night my brother and nephew while helping my parents out tripped the alarm. This was past 11 at night. In 5 minutes there were 3 cop cars outside with guns drawn on my brother and nephew.

I'm not expecting that kind of response but at least dispatch the correct officers to properly handle the situation.

Businesses get a different kind of treatment than residents. Keep in mind most businesses (especially ones that cops use) get preferential treatment simply because they scratch the cops' backs. For example, a 24 hour convenience store I worked at back in college, cops would come in for coffee or whatnot on the night shift (when I worked). We weren't supposed to give them any discounts, they wouldn't ask for any discounts, but my night manager told me - their coffee is free, and anything made behind the counter gets a fairly hefty discount - cause we like them to be here in a hurry if we ever have to press that button under the counter.

With that said... the response time for cops when it comes to anything criminal happening is pathetic. They're too busy pulling people over doing two miles over the speed limit to catch the ricer that tears by at 20MPH over, or the idiots that decide a right-on-red at a posted no-turn-on-red intersection is a good idea.
 
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