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Originally posted by: vi edit
Want an even lamer example? Two years ago my wife and I traveled down to San Antonio for a vacation. We are from IL. I was 29 at the time, she was 26. Some of the grocery stores down there (Publics?) refused to sell alcohol to out of state drivers licenses.

I could have been 90 years old and they would have refused to sell it to me if I showed them the drivers license.
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In the supermarket I worked at on LI, NY, cashiers were supposed to call a manager over to check IDs. We also would only take NYS driver's licenses as ID.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
Want an even lamer example? Two years ago my wife and I traveled down to San Antonio for a vacation. We are from IL. I was 29 at the time, she was 26. Some of the grocery stores down there (Publics?) refused to sell alcohol to out of state drivers licenses.

I could have been 90 years old and they would have refused to sell it to me if I showed them the drivers license.
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Many Texas stores do that. When I lived in TX, they required either a TX ID or a military ID in order for us to purchase alcohol. Otherwise they would have refused us.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
Want an even lamer example? Two years ago my wife and I traveled down to San Antonio for a vacation. We are from IL. I was 29 at the time, she was 26. Some of the grocery stores down there (Publics?) refused to sell alcohol to out of state drivers licenses.

I could have been 90 years old and they would have refused to sell it to me if I showed them the drivers license.
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A lot of stores do this because their employies aren't trained to spot fake ID's on any state other than their own. People will purpously get out of state counterfeit I.D. for thsi very reason. I had no idea what an an ID from I think it was Alabama looks like so when I saw one I thought it was fake, when it turns out it wasn't. My boss told me if the person looks under 30 and has an out of state ID don't sell to them. Surprisinigly enough, as of 5 years ago at least some state still had very cheap looking ID's. Cali has holograms, a couple I got out of state were real and I would have sworn they were home made.
 
In Wisconsin it's no problem different states have different rules. But in Wisconsin you can take your 10 year old kid to the bars and get hammered with him while sitting next to a cop.
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: vi edit
Want an even lamer example? Two years ago my wife and I traveled down to San Antonio for a vacation. We are from IL. I was 29 at the time, she was 26. Some of the grocery stores down there (Publics?) refused to sell alcohol to out of state drivers licenses.

I could have been 90 years old and they would have refused to sell it to me if I showed them the drivers license.
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A lot of stores do this because their employies aren't trained to spot fake ID's on any state other than their own. People will purpously get out of state counterfeit I.D. for thsi very reason. I had no idea what an an ID from I think it was Alabama looks like so when I saw one I thought it was fake, when it turns out it wasn't. My boss told me if the person looks under 30 and has an out of state ID don't sell to them. Surprisinigly enough, as of 5 years ago at least some state still had very cheap looking ID's. Cali has holograms, a couple I got out of state were real and I would have sworn they were home made.
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So basically if you are a tourist, business traveler, or a legal aged & non-resident college student you are effectively screwed when it comes to buying a case of beer at a grocery store? I wonder how much revenue they lose out on during conventions, bowl games, and various other "high traffic" times. Would they take a passport instead? So why doesn't this apply to bars/restaurants? Because none of them ever turned us away.
 
The interesting thing is (at least in my state) it's completely legal to consume alcohol at your own residence if you are under 21 if it was provided by your parents. Means as long as you don't hit the sidewalk (public property) you could drink in front of a LEO and he had no legal recourse against you.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: vi edit
Want an even lamer example? Two years ago my wife and I traveled down to San Antonio for a vacation. We are from IL. I was 29 at the time, she was 26. Some of the grocery stores down there (Publics?) refused to sell alcohol to out of state drivers licenses.

I could have been 90 years old and they would have refused to sell it to me if I showed them the drivers license.
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A lot of stores do this because their employies aren't trained to spot fake ID's on any state other than their own. People will purpously get out of state counterfeit I.D. for thsi very reason. I had no idea what an an ID from I think it was Alabama looks like so when I saw one I thought it was fake, when it turns out it wasn't. My boss told me if the person looks under 30 and has an out of state ID don't sell to them. Surprisinigly enough, as of 5 years ago at least some state still had very cheap looking ID's. Cali has holograms, a couple I got out of state were real and I would have sworn they were home made.
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So basically if you are a tourist, business traveler, or a legal aged & non-resident college student you are effectively screwed when it comes to buying a case of beer at a grocery store? I wonder how much revenue they lose out on during conventions, bowl games, and various other "high traffic" times. Would they take a passport instead? So why doesn't this apply to bars/restaurants? Because none of them ever turned us away.
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it should apply to everywhere, it's a YMMV, some bars, or even store might train their workers on what out of state IDs are supposed to look like. Most don't though, some will take Passports but YMMV. As for how much they might lose do to a convention or a bowl game. Not even close to what they'd lose if they sold to a person with an out of state ID. Best case scenario if they get caught is $5,000 fine for the store and $500 for the person who sold it. Worst case they completely lose their liquor license, for possibly a year. And have to pay a good amount of $$$ to get it back. 1 or 2 days profit from people attending a big bowl game isn't even close to worth the potential lose of getting busted. The store I worked at, if they lost their liquor license for a year, the store wouldn't have been able to stay open. Liquor accounted for at least 50% of the sales.
 
Crazy, I buy liquor for minors all the time in CA. Never had a clerk give me a hard time about it. I rarely get carded at all and I'm only 27. Nine times out of ten if I'm buying liquor, my 20yr old(looks like shes going on 16) gf is standing right next to me.

Your parent's just had the bad luck of running into the one clerk who gives a shit. Maybe they spotted a poorly disguised, undercover cop watching from nearby.
 
Originally posted by: elmer92413
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Parents are legally allowed to give their children alcohol.

Just like 2 people who are married can drink together as long as one of them is 21 (this one is a bit trickier as they may ask for marriage license).
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uh... no
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Actually ya...
You should check out the exceptions that various states have.
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you made a blanket statement to make it sound like the norm when it in fact varies by state law. if you had said "in some states" then I wouldn't have disagreed with you
 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
My question to everyone who's been in this situation: Did any of you try having the underage person(s) simply walk out of the store and ask the cashier again? If so, did that work? Or would you have to have the person wait outside or stay away from you when you're checking out?
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It worked for me about 6 years ago in Indiana. I was at a grocery store with my wife (g/f at the time) who was 20 and they wouldn't sell beer to me. I asked if she left the store if they would sell it and they said yes. She left and I got my beer.
 
Wow, never heard of this. I'd bet most placed ignore the law though since they just want the business. Plus, it's a CVS, who buys liquor at a CVS? 😛 Most grocery stores probably wouldn't give a shit.
 
Nice idea, but really, really stupid when you think about it. Group of 18 - 22 year olds - it stops them once. They go to the next store & everyone under 21 waits outside. But, the legislators need to approve legislation, no matter how idiotic, to appease the MADD crowd.
 
The entire point of this law is to prevent a 21 year old from buying beer for his 20 year old buddies (you get the idea). This law burned me many times when I was 18-20 and I really hated it, although it does make sense.

That being said, I've never heard of a clerk who actually enforced it in such obvious circumstances. Sounds like a total prick. Him and that cop at the hospital should hang out.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: Shawn
stupid states FTL
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The odd thing is that it's Red States that have most of the Blue Laws.
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It wasn't until the 2000 election that we started referring to states as "red states" and "blue states." Before that different networks used different color schemes (usually involving red and blue, but often with the democrats represented by red). 😉

I live in a blue state (NJ) and went to college in a red state (IN). In Indiana the only alcohol restriction that I encountered was that you couldn't buy alcohol on a Sunday. I wasn't in the habit of drinking on Sunday, so unfortunately I learned of this law the day after graduation when some friends and I wanted to celebrate before I left the next day. Ah well, I've had plenty of beers since then. 😛

Interestingly, while I was able to buy beer at convenience stores and grocery stores in Indiana, I can't in NJ. Some grocery stores (the minority, by far) have an attached liquor store, but you have to make your liquor purchases in that store. I don't know if it's by law or coincidence (I suspect the former), but I haven't found a liquor store open past 10:00 p.m. on any night of the week in NJ.

I guess the moral of the story is that you should plan ahead, regardless of where you live. 😛
 
Originally posted by: JLee
State law? It's typically store policy..maybe Cali is different. I wouldn't be surprised.
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State law.

Originally posted by: vi edit


The odd thing is that it's Red States that have most of the Blue Laws.
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You'd be a mega moonbat to deny CA is a blue state. :Q
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
A lot of stores do this because their employies aren't trained to spot fake ID's on any state other than their own. People will purpously get out of state counterfeit I.D. for thsi very reason. I had no idea what an an ID from I think it was Alabama looks like so when I saw one I thought it was fake, when it turns out it wasn't. My boss told me if the person looks under 30 and has an out of state ID don't sell to them. Surprisinigly enough, as of 5 years ago at least some state still had very cheap looking ID's. Cali has holograms, a couple I got out of state were real and I would have sworn they were home made.
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My New York license looks like they made it with a bubble jet printer.
 
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: QueBert
A lot of stores do this because their employies aren't trained to spot fake ID's on any state other than their own. People will purpously get out of state counterfeit I.D. for thsi very reason. I had no idea what an an ID from I think it was Alabama looks like so when I saw one I thought it was fake, when it turns out it wasn't. My boss told me if the person looks under 30 and has an out of state ID don't sell to them. Surprisinigly enough, as of 5 years ago at least some state still had very cheap looking ID's. Cali has holograms, a couple I got out of state were real and I would have sworn they were home made.
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My New York license looks like they made it with a bubble jet printer.
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And one of my friends (who went to college in New York) had a fake NY driver's license showing her as being older than she really was because it was so easy to fake it.

Minnesota adopted much more fake-proof IDs about a year before I turned 21. They used to be really basic. Now they are made of a special material, have a holo-coating, etc.
 
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