Parents Decide not to Separate Stancombe Conjoined Twins

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I saw this on CNN, tough call they share a heart & liver. Assuming one twin has both organs how do you decide, what do you say to the healthier one? What do say to the missing organs twin assuming he makes it to adulthood? I'd most likely leave it up to the surgeon.
 
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kia75

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I wouldn't separate the twins either. It looks like if they're separated then there's a good chance both will die.

How horribly sad for everyone involved.

Truthfully, I think it would have been best if they had never been born at all. They'll probably die before their first birthday.
 

preCRT

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Learning at the end of the 1st trimester that they shared a heart [thoracopagus], I would have terminated the pregnancy.
 

Strk

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That must be a horrible position to be in. You separate them, one is dies immediately. You leave them together, both die shortly after birth.
 

preCRT

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That must be a horrible position to be in. You separate them, one is dies immediately. You leave them together, both die shortly after birth.
They may live through their teens, still joined together.
 
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it's possible

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Nope. I'd terminate that pregnancy immediately. If I can find out from my OBGYN that something went horribly wrong with the development of the fetus, I'd abort. The last thing I want to do is carry a pregnancy to term knowing that the child would be born with abnormalities.
 

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That must be a horrible position to be in. You separate them, one is dies immediately. You leave them together, both die shortly after birth.

You have misunderstood the situation. If separated both will almost surely die in hours.

Leaving them together gives the greatest chance of survival.
 

DCal430

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This isn't a case if seperated, one lives and one dies. No this is a case if seperated both will almost surely die.
 
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Another odd question, each control one leg & one hand/arm. Is it cheating if the wrong hand is used?
Being serious they are most likely amazingly close to each other I doubt there are any personality issues. I remember an interview with the Barbie twins one had a great married life and the other not so much. The happier twin would sometimes trade places with the less happy twin because she felt bad for her sister and wanted her to experience a happier life.
 

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One of them is married now. The sex must be REALLY awkward.

so if they each control 1 arm and leg, then assuming there's only 1 pussy then is it "owned" by one twin or do they both feel it? what happens if the other gets married? dude would have to put up with sloppy seconds.

what if 1 wants anal and the other hates it - who wins?
 

TerryMathews

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Nope. I'd terminate that pregnancy immediately. If I can find out from my OBGYN that something went horribly wrong with the development of the fetus, I'd abort. The last thing I want to do is carry a pregnancy to term knowing that the child would be born with abnormalities.

Ah eugenics. It amazes me that you of all people would be a true believer.
 

justoh

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Ah eugenics. It amazes me that you of all people would be a true believer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics


Christians....

Try reading that and then argue that the people advocating terminating this pregnancy as a personal choice amounts to them supporting the "belief and practice of improving the genetic quality of the human population," instead of the more likely implicit desire/motivation of them to merely improve just their own lives, or the lives of these people involved, which isn't eugenics?
 

TerryMathews

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics


Christians....

Try reading that and then argue that the people advocating terminating this pregnancy as a personal choice amounts to them supporting the "belief and practice of improving the genetic quality of the human population," instead of the more likely implicit desire/motivation of them to merely improve just their own lives, or the lives of these people involved, which isn't eugenics?

No, I was addressing Shehateme. She made a much more broad statement than this article. Go read it again and tell me it's not eugenics.

Liberals...
 

justoh

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No, I was addressing Shehateme. She made a much more broad statement than this article. Go read it again and tell me it's not eugenics.

Liberals...

Nope. I'd terminate that pregnancy immediately. If I can find out from my OBGYN that something went horribly wrong with the development of the fetus, I'd abort. The last thing I want to do is carry a pregnancy to term knowing that the child would be born with abnormalities.

How is shehateme demonstrating a belief in "improving the genetic quality of the human population." Sounds like she just doesn't want a messed up baby to me, probably for mostly selfish reasons, which isn't eugenics (and perfectly understandable). I don't really expect a substantive reply from a christian.
 

TerryMathews

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How is shehateme demonstrating a belief in "improving the genetic quality of the human population." Sounds like she just doesn't want a messed up baby to me, probably for mostly selfish reasons, which isn't eugenics (and perfectly understandable). I don't really expect a substantive reply from a christian.

Nope. I'd terminate that pregnancy immediately. If I can find out from my OBGYN that something went horribly wrong with the development of the fetus, I'd abort. The last thing I want to do is carry a pregnancy to term knowing that the child would be born with abnormalities.

Bolded is clearly negative eugenics.
 

justoh

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It just isn't, but if you could think critically you wouldn't believe in angels.

"It is a social philosophy advocating the improvement of human genetic traits through the promotion of higher reproduction of people with desired traits (positive eugenics), and reduced reproduction of people with less-desired or undesired traits (negative eugenics)."

shehateme wasn't expressing a social philosophy. he/she was talking about what he/she would do personally, not advocating what people should do generally, and even if it was something he/she would suggest generally, in order for it to qualify under this negative eugenics idea it would have to be suggested generally toward the specific purpose of population control and not merely suggested as a good idea for any other reason (such as simply to not have a fucked up kid).