Parents almost kill their toddler by forcing a Vegan diet.

[nihil]

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<< it's possible that they could even die from it. >>



kinda like how their child could've died? I say go for it... stuff meat down their throats. >>



violence begets violence, my friend. they will get theirs in the end.

 

[Freejack2]

I think vegetarianism can oftentimes go overboard. Used to have a coworker who a lacto vegatarian. He'd eat dairy products but wouldn't eat meat. He was careful about his diet and he made sure he was eating properly. He was even someone who would take the doctors advice on how to feed a kid properly. If it required feeding the kid some meat he'd probably do it.
These people though are just fvcked up in the head. I suppose it might have been possible to raise the kid vegan but it would have required strictly following the doctors advice.

I don't blame them for taking visitation rights away from them when the husband said the kid was chubby. These people clearly didn't care if it killed the baby, so long as it stuck to their vegan ideals.
At the very least they should take this kid away, and prevent them from having any other children.

 

[roboninja]

<< And WTF is a "level 5" vegan? Does that really exist outside of the Simpsons? >>



"I'm a Level 5 Vegan. I don't eat anything that casts a shadow."
One of my favorite Simpsons lines...

 

[sheselectric]

i have no prob. with veganism....in fact i was vegan for a while a couple of years ago....but this is ridiculous. don't these parents realize that humans are MAMMALS and need milk to survive? not only that, didn't they notice their baby wasn't growing normally? i can't believe some people.

 

[PlatinumGold]

<< Used to have a coworker who a lacto vegatarian. He'd eat dairy products but wouldn't eat meat. He was careful about his diet and he made sure he was eating properly. He was even someone who would take the doctors advice on how to feed a kid properly. If it required feeding the kid some meat he'd probably do it.
These people though are just fvcked up in the head. I suppose it might have been possible to raise the kid vegan but it would have required strictly following the doctors advice.
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again, veganism is irrelavent to the context of this post. it's like condeming all religion because some religious fanatic used religion as an excuse to sacrifice their children.

You can raise kids as HEALTHY VEGANS.


Soy formulas are no worse than milk based ones.
another link

 

[littlelilith]

<< I would agree. They are liberal PETA funding tree huggers. You see, they get a lot of mileage in their f'ed up little world by saying the baby is raised this way. >>



This doesn't have anything to do with liberals, PETA-funders, and/or tree huggers. Nor does it really have to do with vegetarians/vegans. What it comes down to is that these people were ignorant of what sort of nutrients a baby needs to develop properly, and that they were such hardcore fundamentalists about their lifestyle that they didn't care enough to stop and think that how they ate might not be the best thing for baby.

I agree that these people are sick and shouldn't get their kids back. ALL parents should find out what sort of foods a baby needs to be eating to develop properly, and it's a lot more important when they're really young, because malnourishment at that age can have serious adverse effects on the child later on. If they knew that their baby needed other nutrients but ignored that fact, then it is definitely akin to child abuse.

As a side note, you're not supposed to give young babies cow's milk anyway. It has some things (I think iron is one.. I don't remember what they others are) in so strong a concentration that a baby's digestive system is not yet developed enough to process them. Breast milk or formula (soy formula works too) is all they should have until their digestive systems are better developed.

 

[zimmie6576]

I still can't fathom how they thought an infant could digest solid foods.

The breast milk thing I also still can't get. I can understand why you wouldn't want to give a baby cow's milk (formula or straight milk), for both health and vegetarian reasons. Humans are all lactose intolerant, to varying degrees. We cannot digest cow's milk properly, though some can better than others. I personally have bad experiences the day after I have a lot of pizza (the cheese), but I'm fine with milk, yogurt, etc. However, babies have absolutely no problem digesting their mother's breast milk, and it is the most nutritious thing for a baby to have.

So I would have no issue if they were denying the infant cow's milk, for whatever reason. However, to deny the child the one thing that is absolutely supposed to have is just plain ludicrous.

 

[linuxboy]

Does anyone know the effects of early malnutrition? Will the kid be physically small all her life, or poaaibly brain damaged? Stupid parents.

Indeed.

To answer your question, early malnutrition does not necessarily inhibit physical growth as much as it prevents brain development. In the first two years of life, the brain is reaching tremendous milestones in terms of growth, language acquisition, learning, and even simple abstraction abilities. It is not an issue of calories or of vitamins as much as it is an issue of proteins, which are found in meat or a healthy mix in a vegan diet. Proteins ingested are broken down to create something called immunoglubulins, which are just long strands of amino acids used in neurite expansion/growth and myelinizatioin. More complex strands are used as regulators and enzymes in cell membranes to regulate ion flows, active transport mechanisms, potentials, and all the wonderful life inside of cells.

Bone growth is an issue of hormonal balances and mauturational triggers that are primarily influences by genotype. Malnutrition can cause weak bones or disorders but the actual size should not matter too much. The mental abilities, IQ, adaptability, etc are highly dependent on proteins and fats ingested early on. This is why milk is so good, it's because it really has all the stuff the baby body needs to grow. This is also why doctors are not concerned when babies are chubby, because that is necessary as a backup in case something drastic occurs in the environment.

Physical size is not as important as an inner life and this is what malnutrition does, crippling the mind, and very often the spirit.

Cheers !

 

[Chaotic42]

Those people are idiots. Babies need mother's milk. There's a reason that women produce it. They should be sent to jail. In every appreciably large group of people, most are idiots, relative to the others.

I used to be a vegan, and those people are just sick.

 

[PC166]

even cows know that, or bird for that matter. can i say dumber then even the dumbest animal? sad. imo. amen.

 

[Amused]

I know this will sound cruel, but to continue the evolution thoughts of another thread about kids and violence, do we really want the offspring of such obvious idiots to survive?

Maybe --just maybe-- they'd be doing us all a favor by offing their kid like that.