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s0me0nesmind1

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Some of these (roughly 30%-40% are reasonable). The others are rich bailing out rich. Especially fucking ridiculous for ones on here where I'm seeing that they have 1-5 year sentences. Suck it up fucking buttercups.

Which is the crux of why I've stated many times that once Trump leaves office he will never stay a single day in jail. The only rich people who go to jail are ones that fuck over other rich people. Trump hasn't done that, so he won't get anything.



Glad to see SOME good ones though, such as this:

Way Quoe Long — President Trump commuted the sentence of Way Quoe Long. Mr. Long is a 58-year-old who has served nearly half of a 50-year sentence for a non-violent conviction for conspiracy to manufacture and distribute marijuana. Mr. Long has spent his incarceration striving to better himself through English proficiency classes and by obtaining his GED. Upon release, Mr. Long will reunite with his family and will be strongly supported as he integrates back into the community.

Corvain Cooper — President Trump commuted the sentence of Mr. Corvain Cooper. Mr. Cooper is a 41-year-old father of two girls who has served more than 7 years of a life sentence for his non-violent participation in a conspiracy to distribute marijuana.
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Aikouka

Aikouka

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s0me0nesmind1 said:
Glad to see SOME good ones though, such as this:
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Those sentences make me wonder... why in the world are they so long for what appear to be minor marijuana offenses?

Also, as someone who hates band-aid fixes, we really need someone to step up and finally nix the schedule status of marijuana at the Federal level. I mean... if you're willing to commute a sentence for distributing the drug, is it worth being on there? Also, and this might be the biggest head-scratcher... why is it there to begin with? (I have seen some suggestions that it was due to marijuana being blamed for making Latinos violent in the early 20th century as it was added to the list very shortly after those articles ran.) I was actually hoping that Obama would try to tackle the issue given that he couldn't run again anyway, so the potential for political backlash wouldn't be a big deal.
 
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Indus

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Trump issues one more last-minute pardon
From CNN's Betsy Klein and Jeremy Diamond
President Donald Trump granted one additional pardon in the final hours of his presidency.
“Today, President Donald J. Trump granted a full pardon to Albert J. Pirro, Jr.,” deputy press secretary Judd Deere said in a statement to pool.
Pirro is the ex-husband of Trump ally and Fox News personality Judge Jeanine Pirro. He was convicted on conspiracy and tax evasion charges after improperly deducting $1.2 million of his personal expenses in business write-offs.
 
DrunkenSano

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Aikouka said:
Those sentences make me wonder... why in the world are they so long for what appear to be minor marijuana offenses?

Also, as someone who hates band-aid fixes, we really need someone to step up and finally nix the schedule status of marijuana at the Federal level. I mean... if you're willing to commute a sentence for distributing the drug, is it worth being on there? Also, and this might be the biggest head-scratcher... why is it there to begin with? (I have seen some suggestions that it was due to marijuana being blamed for making Latinos violent in the early 20th century as it was added to the list very shortly after those articles ran.) I was actually hoping that Obama would try to tackle the issue given that he couldn't run again anyway, so the potential for political backlash wouldn't be a big deal.
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The drug war that the US Government against minorities is very real. It's only a matter of time before the illusion is finally shattered but many minorities are still suffering.
 
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MrSquished

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Compare Trump's pardons/commutations to Obama's - Obama's were hundreds, primarily for low level or non violent drug offenders, whereas Trump offered a token few of those and pretty much pardoned the swamp, folks that were loyal to him or kissed his ass or protected him from Mueller by not cooperating and revealing his criminal activity, and quite possibly people who paid him for some of those pardons.
 
hal2kilo

hal2kilo

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Aikouka said:
Those sentences make me wonder... why in the world are they so long for what appear to be minor marijuana offenses?

Also, as someone who hates band-aid fixes, we really need someone to step up and finally nix the schedule status of marijuana at the Federal level. I mean... if you're willing to commute a sentence for distributing the drug, is it worth being on there? Also, and this might be the biggest head-scratcher... why is it there to begin with? (I have seen some suggestions that it was due to marijuana being blamed for making Latinos violent in the early 20th century as it was added to the list very shortly after those articles ran.) I was actually hoping that Obama would try to tackle the issue given that he couldn't run again anyway, so the potential for political backlash wouldn't be a big deal.
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Virtually, all drug laws are race based.
 
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s0me0nesmind1

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hal2kilo said:
Virtually, all drug laws are race based.
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DrunkenSano said:
The drug war that the US Government against minorities is very real. It's only a matter of time before the illusion is finally shattered but many minorities are still suffering.
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Right... just like alcohol prohibition, they were targeting the darkies amirite?

You guys fucking love to generalize. You are what you proclaim to hate.
 
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ch33zw1z

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s0me0nesmind1 said:
Right... just like alcohol prohibition, they were targeting the darkies amirite?

You guys fucking love to generalize. You are what you proclaim to hate.
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Cultural bigotry was used to garner support for the volstead act, in a similar way as drugs currently prohibited have been. Of course, alcohol prohibition ended 90 years ago.

That's no point really in arguing this. It's well documented, look it up bruh.
 
woolfe9998

woolfe9998

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emperus said:
He didn't pardon Giuliani. If I were Giuliani I'd be worried.
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Yeah I noticed that too. Rudy undoubtedly knows where many of the skeletons are buried. Maybe Trump is assuming that attorney-client privilege will preclude Rudy from testifying against him.
 
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fskimospy

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woolfe9998 said:
Yeah I noticed that too. Rudy undoubtedly knows where many of the skeletons are buried. Maybe Trump is assuming that attorney-client privilege will preclude Rudy from testifying against him.
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Giuliani has to be feeling incredibly shitty right about now. He spent the last two years demolishing his reputation and putting himself at risk of going to prison and for what? He didn’t even get a pardon.
 
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emperus

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woolfe9998 said:
Yeah I noticed that too. Rudy undoubtedly knows where many of the skeletons are buried. Maybe Trump is assuming that attorney-client privilege will preclude Rudy from testifying against him.
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I mean Giuliani has stretched that "attorney-client" relationship. I mean there is a lot there. Even with the Ukraine stuff. Maybe he thought about it the other way around, if Giuliani is pardoned, he can't claim the 5th and may have to testify.
 
woolfe9998

woolfe9998

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fskimospy said:
Giuliani has to be feeling incredibly shitty right about now. He spent the last two years demolishing his reputation and putting himself at risk of going to prison and for what? He didn’t even get a pardon.
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Yeah well, he most certainly deserves all the shittiness he's feeling now. He sold out his reputation and now possibly his freedom for what, to be relevant again for a couple more years? What a fool.
 
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Amol S.

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emperus said:
He didn't pardon Giuliani. If I were Giuliani I'd be worried.
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Giuliani is not eligable to be pardoned. He did not commit a crime. Rather he did not follow the rules of the New York State Bar Association. I read somewhere that the NYS Bar Association is planing to remove his license.
 
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fskimospy

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Amol S. said:
Giuliani is not eligable to be pardoned. He did not commit a crime. Rather he did not follow the rules of the New York State Bar Association.
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There seems to be substantial evidence that Giuliani has committed one or more crimes. He faces clear legal jeopardy. Moreover there is no such thing as eligibility for a pardon. Everyone is eligible even if they committed no crime.

I read somewhere that the NYS Bar Association is planing to remove his license.
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No, a professional association of lawyers is looking to kick him out. Doesn’t have anything to do with his law license though.
 
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Amol S. said:
Giuliani is not eligable to be pardoned. He did not commit a crime. Rather he did not follow the rules of the New York State Bar Association. I read somewhere that the NYS Bar Association is planing to remove his license.
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Inciting a mob to engage in trial by combat against Congress isn't a crime?
 
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