Originally posted by: Pabster
Committing troops to be slaughtered in a foreign land that posed no threat?
Slaughtered? Last time I checked, NATO forces won that one. I don't have time to read the Cato report. Facts and Cliffs, please.
And before you go off half cocked, I'm not anti-war at all costs. I was born to Jewish family two months before Pearl Harbor so believe me, I know there are justifiable reasons to fight.
I've also acknowledged so many times before that we were right to go after Al Qaeda and the Taliban who were shielding them in Afghanistan. Even the majority of the Islamic world backed us in that effort.
The problem is, Bush's war in Iraq was based on pure bullsh8, and doing it, Bush took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan and moved the majority of our forces to Iraq. As a result, the Taliban are regaining strength, and the death toll is once again rising, there.
Many of the arguments those like yourself make against the current conflicts could be (and were) lodged against Clinton.
So??? We now the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, and, as noted above, there isn't any arguement that we were right to join the NATO action against Milosovic in the Balkans, and Bush was right to go after Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.
And I'd be interested to know which constitutional rights have been shredded?
Umm... How about
The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
The Bushwhackos couldn't even deal with a questionable piece of legislation that gave them the right to obtain such warrants two weeks after the fact of any such invasion of an American citizen's rights.
The other consideration is, there's nothing we can do about the Clinton adminstration except to learn from what they did right and wrong. We still have some time to do something about the current criminals in charge. Impeachment and conviction for treason comes to mind. :|
It is always easy to look back with 20/20 hindsight and play armchair quarterback. I don't blame Clinton outright for many of the mistakes in the Balkans (after all, his staff was as utterly incompetent as he was) and blaming Bush for every mistake made in the current conflicts is, similarly, naive and misinformed.[/quote]
There are still major differences. By your own statements, whatever you believe Clinton did wrong regarding the Balkans (or even North Korea), you believe it was a
mistake.
Bush's crimes are no mistake. They are intentional acts perpetrated contrary to U.S. law and the rights of every American citizen. He's the head of the worst adminstration in U.S. History, and I believe he's guilty of multiple crimes, including treason. :|