Paraguay to recognize Palestinian state in 2011

[SandEagle]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-12/26/c_13665364.htm

"By recognizing the Palestinian state, Paraguay joins several Latin America countries, including Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador and Uruguay, in doing so."


http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/12/25/ecuador.palestinian.state/index.html?

The only comment I have is: :awe:

 

[Lemon law]

We have already been there and done that SandEagle. Every other nation on earth can recognize a Palestinian State, but if the USA says nyet again in the UN security council, and the resolution will fail.

But wait, given the way Israel has torpedoed the Obama peace plan, why should not the USA simply abstain instead?

After all, Bozo Netanyuhu was promised a US veto in exchange for a mere three month settlement freeze in just the West Bank. And instead of ole Bozo saying yes yes yes, ole Bozo ho hummed and found that sweet deal withdrawn.

The other thing to point out is the US stakes are much higher now, Because the now the US must choose between supporting Israel at the expense at losing almost all of the rest of the world.

One or the other but not both! Maybe this time the USA should just abstain rather than vote one way or the other.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

How many container ships would it take to move the Palestinians to South America? I think it's generous for them to offer their continent.

 

[Lemon law]

How many container ships would it take to move the Palestinians to South America? I think it's generous for them to offer their continent.

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Given the fact that the Europeans who made most of their Jews into refugees then decided to dump their Jewish refugees onto Arabs, we have to wonder what Hayabusa is talking about. Maybe we should re dump the prior Jewish refugee problem back on Europe and just realize various South American Countries are simply more clear thinking than anyone else.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

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Given the fact that the Europeans who made most of their Jews into refugees then decided to dump their Jewish refugees onto Arabs, we have to wonder what Hayabusa is talking about. Maybe we should re dump the prior Jewish refugee problem back on Europe and just realize various South American Countries are simply more clear thinking than anyone else.

I think you would find it easier to move the Palestinians to Paraguay. With all the support that seems out there for it we'd see offers for them to resettle. When it comes down to it though no one wants them, in fact pointedly so. As you'll note the other nations are far more concerned about Iran than Israel, and really don't care any more about the Palestinians than the Israeli's do. At some level I'm sympathetic with the people, but no one wants the leadership which would come with them.

 

[JS80]

lolmexicans

 

[Infohawk]

The mods merged the last of these threads with SandTroll's previous. Maybe they can do the same thing for this one?

 

[SandEagle]

The mods merged the last of these threads with SandTroll's previous. Maybe they can do the same thing for this one?

The mods merged the last of these threads with SandTroll's previous. Maybe they can do the same thing for this one?

Mods (that means you Common Courtesy) I got an infraction, in P&N no less, for calling a JediYoda a DodoYoda. please ban InfoDork or at least give him an infraction

graci

btw, i didnt write the article moran.

 

[Lemon law]

I think you would find it easier to move the Palestinians to Paraguay. With all the support that seems out there for it we'd see offers for them to resettle. When it comes down to it though no one wants them, in fact pointedly so. As you'll note the other nations are far more concerned about Iran than Israel, and really don't care any more about the Palestinians than the Israeli's do. At some level I'm sympathetic with the people, but no one wants the leadership which would come with them.

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Still as Haybususa rider flips and flops trying to support his stinking thinking, its still a matter of the truth or a lie.

Me you or the lamp post may maintain that 2+2=4, but if Israel maintains the answer is actually three, why should I feel compelled to import into my country all those who also think the actual correct answer is four? But that is what the Hayabusa Rider logic boils down to.

Meanwhile we have the other Israeli problem, even if the surrounding Arab States do not have a track record of Palestinian support, the State of Israel is even a more hated foreign element in the Arab world, and Israeli military hegemony, translation might equal right, is the only thing that keeps Israeli viable.

To pretend that Israeli military hegemony will last forever is to deny reality, and the only long term chance Israel has is to prove that Israel can be a positive addition to the mid-east. As for the Arab countries, they would be thrilled to see a Palestinian State, as long as the responsibility of assimilating Palestinians does not fall on Arab States.

Other than that, Arab States have many reasons to detest Israel and few reasons to detest or fear Palestinians.

Meaning Israel has a lot of catch up football to play, at the same time Israel refuses to smell the coffee.

 

[Infohawk]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30885269&postcount=44

Here's a link where you admit you're trolling and just trying to irritate people. This thread really belongs with the other stories about South American countries recognizing Palestine. We don't need a new thread for every minor South American country making diplomatic statements.

 

[Sinsear]

Mods (that means you Common Courtesy) I got an infraction, in P&N no less, for calling a JediYoda a DodoYoda. please ban InfoDork or at least give him an infraction

graci

btw, i didnt write the article moran.

Lol, Sandtroll.

 

[Oric]

Why don't you allocate one of your Southern States for the Israeli's. There is much love for them there anyways

 

[Freshgeardude]

We have already been there and done that SandEagle. Every other nation on earth can recognize a Palestinian State, but if the USA says nyet again in the UN security council, and the resolution will fail.

But wait, given the way Israel has torpedoed the Obama peace plan, why should not the USA simply abstain instead?

After all, Bozo Netanyuhu was promised a US veto in exchange for a mere three month settlement freeze in just the West Bank. And instead of ole Bozo saying yes yes yes, ole Bozo ho hummed and found that sweet deal withdrawn.

The other thing to point out is the US stakes are much higher now, Because the now the US must choose between supporting Israel at the expense at losing almost all of the rest of the world.

One or the other but not both! Maybe this time the USA should just abstain rather than vote one way or the other.

you are so stubborn. we have already discussed the fact that it wasnt netanyahu's fault for the failed "care package deal"

he wanted it, his administration didnt.

he cant just take the package or his government dissolves and there are elections. thats the problem with parliamentary democracies.


and Oh please, the US will continue to support israel as long as israel can benefit the US, be it weapons, technology, economy, security.

and as long as AIPAC still exists.


No one can afford to turn on the US since the entire world economy revolves around the united states.

the only place that survives without the US in NK and last anyone has checked, its a shit hole over there.

 

[Infohawk]

Why don't you allocate one of your Southern States for the Israeli's. There is much love for them there anyways

Maybe after Turkey "allocates" one of its regions to the Kurds.

 

[Narmer]

These are interesting developments. However, it may take nothing less than a grand union of moderate left and right Israeli parties in order for Israel to get serious about creating a Palestinian state. But with the extremist Jewish parties breeding like rabbits, Likud may feel compelled to stick with their "allies".

 

[Corn]

Mods (that means you Common Courtesy) I got an infraction, in P&N no less, for calling a JediYoda a DodoYoda. please ban InfoDork or at least give him an infraction

graci

btw, i didnt write the article moran.

LOL, I love mod call outs!

 

[SamurAchzar]

These are interesting developments. However, it may take nothing less than a grand union of moderate left and right Israeli parties in order for Israel to get serious about creating a Palestinian state. But with the extremist Jewish parties breeding like rabbits, Likud may feel compelled to stick with their "allies".

Few questions:

1. Who in Israel opposes a Palestinian state?

2. What will this state look like? Will it be a democracy? Who will control it, Hamas or PLO?

3. What guarantees are there that this country will not attack Israel daily, like what happens in Gaza? This country will be 10 miles from the major Israeli metropolitan (Tel Aviv), and 5 miles from the Israeli international airport. Palestinians armed with MANPADS could wreck havoc on Israeli civilian transportation. What will be done against done, if anything?

4. Is this state going to have an army? Who will control it?

 

[Lemon law]

What guarantees to Palestinians have that they will not be attacked by Israelis.

The Pales don't and they get regularly killed because of it.

 

[Genx87]

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Given the fact that the Europeans who made most of their Jews into refugees then decided to dump their Jewish refugees onto Arabs, we have to wonder what Hayabusa is talking about. Maybe we should re dump the prior Jewish refugee problem back on Europe and just realize various South American Countries are simply more clear thinking than anyone else.

I think you should drive a ship into an Isreali port and offer to transport Jews back to Europe.

 

[irishScott]

Don't waste your time arguing with Lemon Law guys. This issue is the crux of his identity. He'll start flat-out lying and making shit up when his arguments fail in a page or two.

 

[xj0hnx]

Mods (that means you Common Courtesy) I got an infraction, in P&N no less, for calling a JediYoda a DodoYoda. please ban InfoDork or at least give him an infraction

No reason to ban, or give him an infraction, pretty sure you got an infraction for talking shit about someone that hadn't posted in the thread.

 

[Freshgeardude]

What guarantees to Palestinians have that they will not be attacked by Israelis.

The Pales don't and they get regularly killed because of it.

how about they stop supporting terrorism, then they can stop being killed on retaliatory strikes

 

[MovingTarget]

Yawn. So Paraguay and a few South American countries recognise a Palestinian state. This does nothing for people actually living there. As long as the Palestinians remain poor with little access to proper utilities, infrastructure, and education the problem will remain. If Israel knew what was in its best interest, it would do more to help raise their standard of living.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Who?

 

[Oric]

Maybe after Turkey "allocates" one of its regions to the Kurds.

Why not ? Are you ready for your part ?