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Panzerbox question

They use sleeve bearing 190mm fans, which are only going to get noisier over time, especially when you put a sleeve bearing fan in a horizontal position. Not a good idea. If they were easily replaceable it wouldn't be an issue, but there aren't alot of (or any other that i've found) 190mm fans on the market. I'd suggest sticking with cases using 120/140mm fans, you have alot more choices on the market.
 
Originally posted by: bloodugly
They use sleeve bearing 190mm fans, which are only going to get noisier over time, especially when you put a sleeve bearing fan in a horizontal position. Not a good idea. If they were easily replaceable it wouldn't be an issue, but there aren't alot of (or any other that i've found) 190mm fans on the market. I'd suggest sticking with cases using 120/140mm fans, you have alot more choices on the market.
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I think that is good advice.
 
I was looking at that case and wondered the same thing. Finding a replacement fan could be a hassle. And it you had to go back to NZXT it could be expensive.
 
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
I was looking at that case and wondered the same thing. Finding a replacement fan could be a hassle. And it you had to go back to NZXT it could be expensive.
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Without taking time to troll FrozenCPU and other resellers, I've seen replacement fans in the 220mm size. Check and see what's out there.

These larger fans tend to run at a spec of about 700 rpm. I know that there are replacements for the CoolerMaster fans in the HAF and similar cases, and there are similar fans from other fan-makers.

I'm only wondering about sleeve-bearing fans of this size and speed -- whether there would be less wear on the bearing for running at only 700 rpm. Or whether you could add teflon gun-lubricant to the bearing hub to reduce noise -- like I do with a lot of fans that have either sleeve or ball-bearings.
 
Two questions spring to mind:

Will the fans operate with less than 12v (a controller could be used)?

How difficult would it be to mod the case to use 120mm fans instead of the 190mm fans?

 
the top fan has mounts for a dual 120 radiator, so the top can take 2x 120mm fans without modification.
 
Originally posted by: PCTC2
the top fan has mounts for a dual 120 radiator, so the top can take 2x 120mm fans without modification.
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That's interesting, do you think the other 190 has similar mounts? Surely it could be modded in some way to take a smaller and more common fan size? Any suggestions?

Cheers

 
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: PCTC2
the top fan has mounts for a dual 120 radiator, so the top can take 2x 120mm fans without modification.
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That's interesting, do you think the other 190 has similar mounts? Surely it could be modded in some way to take a smaller and more common fan size? Any suggestions?

Cheers
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The front would require either direct modding (drilling or mounting with an adapter plate or frame), or check how much space there is and try fitting an Antec 200mm fan or a 160mm fan or something.

Thanks for showing me this case. It's small, but I'm thinking about it for a new watercooling system with a Core-i5. With modification of course.
 
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: PCTC2
the top fan has mounts for a dual 120 radiator, so the top can take 2x 120mm fans without modification.
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That's interesting, do you think the other 190 has similar mounts? Surely it could be modded in some way to take a smaller and more common fan size? Any suggestions?

Cheers
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See what sort of detailed info you can find about those 190mm fans. More precisely -- the exact distance from mounting-hole to mounting-hole. The reason I say this: fan-makers have sometimes been sketchy about their fan-specs -- for instance, I've seen the proverbial "92mm" fan advertised as a 90mm fan.

As for mounting them, you can -- of course -- mark and drill new holes. Or-- the holes for smaller fans may already be provided, as I find to be the "case" with my HAF 922 case.

But there are other possibilities.

For instance, I use black foam-art-board (obtainable from Michael's or Target) to block off unwanted vents -- among many other uses. You should be able to make a sort of grommet or gasket, with a hole for the fan's throughput, and four holes to mount the fan. You could either use nylon screws and nuts or pairs of wire ties to mount the fan to the grommet. You would -- in turn -- mount the grommet to the original fan-holes in the case.

And the nifty thing about foam-board -- it has noise-deadening properties. For any number of reasons I might have specified in the previous paragraph, you may want to glue two "grommets" cut to shape and make it "double-ply."
 
Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: PCTC2
the top fan has mounts for a dual 120 radiator, so the top can take 2x 120mm fans without modification.
Click to expand...

That's interesting, do you think the other 190 has similar mounts? Surely it could be modded in some way to take a smaller and more common fan size? Any suggestions?

Cheers
Click to expand...

See what sort of detailed info you can find about those 190mm fans. More precisely -- the exact distance from mounting-hole to mounting-hole. The reason I say this: fan-makers have sometimes been sketchy about their fan-specs -- for instance, I've seen the proverbial "92mm" fan advertised as a 90mm fan.

As for mounting them, you can -- of course -- mark and drill new holes. Or-- the holes for smaller fans may already be provided, as I find to be the "case" with my HAF 922 case.

But there are other possibilities.

For instance, I use black foam-art-board (obtainable from Michael's or Target) to block off unwanted vents -- among many other uses. You should be able to make a sort of grommet or gasket, with a hole for the fan's throughput, and four holes to mount the fan. You could either use nylon screws and nuts or pairs of wire ties to mount the fan to the grommet. You would -- in turn -- mount the grommet to the original fan-holes in the case.

And the nifty thing about foam-board -- it has noise-deadening properties. For any number of reasons I might have specified in the previous paragraph, you may want to glue two "grommets" cut to shape and make it "double-ply."
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Thanks for the input Duck.
 
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