It's over $1700 at Abt Electronics.
Abt Electronics
Wonder if this a very new model or discontunued model. Could hardly find details from stores!!!!!!!!!!!
Abt Electronics
Wonder if this a very new model or discontunued model. Could hardly find details from stores!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by: Joe221
I thought the 10% off code wasn't good on camcorders?
Holey moley, you are correct, the fine print says that it's not good for camcorders. I just ordered a DV camera there using the 10%, will they cancel the order? Anybody know what they do in these cases or should the coupon not have worked in the first place?
Just bought one and waiting for confirmation. At the most I'll turn a quick profit on Ebay, if not, It'll make one expensive as digital camera while I wait for the price of DV media to go down. Thanks for the deal. Cheers.
Order confirmation received. It says 1-2 weeks before shipping. Lets hope they don't pull a Dell "sorry we put the wrong price" and cancel the order. I will be one pissed off mother father. Does anyone know where a brother can get sheap DVD Ram media? Also, does anyone have anymore info on this bad boy? It seems like there are only 1 or 2 reviews out there.
So, if there is no firewire connection, and the disc will not be read by your computer DVD drive (for editing), or your regular DVD player, will you be stuck watching unedited footage on your tv with the camera as the player?
I understand why the price is so low. Who thought up such a camera?
DVD-RAM standard is dead so you will be able to buy DVD-RAM drive like from HP cheap like $200. So you would be able
to play in pc.
It's $2299.99 now at Amazon (but OOS). So I guess if the orders do get through, people who don't like it can unload it and make a few quick bucks.
I purchased and then cancelled after reading posts on FW and reading reviews on the interent.
I bet the thing sells for $700 - $750 on e8ay. I didn't feel like hassling for $250 profit. That sounds funny to say doesn't it? I was just afraid 100 of these would end up posted and no one would want to buy!
Good luck to all! Some lucky turd got my cancelled order probably!
~DQderrick
I bet the thing sells for $700 - $750 on e8ay. I didn't feel like hassling for $250 profit. That sounds funny to say doesn't it? I was just afraid 100 of these would end up posted and no one would want to buy!
Good luck to all! Some lucky turd got my cancelled order probably!
~DQderrick
This thing is obsolete, that is why they are dumping it.
Hitachi just announced a camcorder that records directly on small format DVD-r for a list price of about $899. Therefore you could probably get one of these Hitachi DVD-r units for less than $800 that creates discs that can probably play in your stand-alone DVD player.
At about a $300 premium you are getting newer and more useful technology.
jb
Hitachi just announced a camcorder that records directly on small format DVD-r for a list price of about $899. Therefore you could probably get one of these Hitachi DVD-r units for less than $800 that creates discs that can probably play in your stand-alone DVD player.
At about a $300 premium you are getting newer and more useful technology.
jb
DVD-RAM standard is dead so
...
This thing is obsolete, that is why they are dumping it.
....
None of you know what you are talking about. DVD-RAM is way hot. The next spec coming from the DVD-Forum is DVD-Multi, playing and recording both DVD-R/W and DVD-RAM. DVD-RW for video, DVD-RAM for PC apps and backups. DVD-RAM uses CAV instead of CLV. DVD-RAM has built in error detection and can be rewritten 100,000 times. DVD-RW and DVD+RW can be written to only up to 1,000 times and no error detection.
This camcorder is not for those who want to record on DVD-RAM and put it in their set top player. This is for people who want a superior recording media to take, put on their computer, and author a DVD with nice menus and burn back to DVD-R. No firewire needed, you use your DVD-RAM compatible DVD-ROM.
DVD-R or DVD+R camcorders are a waste, DVD-RAM is the only way to go.
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This thing is obsolete, that is why they are dumping it.
....
None of you know what you are talking about. DVD-RAM is way hot. The next spec coming from the DVD-Forum is DVD-Multi, playing and recording both DVD-R/W and DVD-RAM. DVD-RW for video, DVD-RAM for PC apps and backups. DVD-RAM uses CAV instead of CLV. DVD-RAM has built in error detection and can be rewritten 100,000 times. DVD-RW and DVD+RW can be written to only up to 1,000 times and no error detection.
This camcorder is not for those who want to record on DVD-RAM and put it in their set top player. This is for people who want a superior recording media to take, put on their computer, and author a DVD with nice menus and burn back to DVD-R. No firewire needed, you use your DVD-RAM compatible DVD-ROM.
DVD-R or DVD+R camcorders are a waste, DVD-RAM is the only way to go.
Travesty!!! My order just got cancelled! Has anyone been notified that their order was cancelled as well? Can I do anything about it?
Mine just got cancelled, too. I don't think there's anything that can be done about it, since they didn't mention that is was a typo, but rather that they can't get it (Of course, there's no way to prove it):
Quote from Amazon e-mail:
Oh, well....
Quote from Amazon e-mail:
Oh, well....
i wouldn't call dvd-ram hot.
it's a good technology for what it does.
but it's not anywhere near consumer friendly.
in terms of setting a standard, dvd+rw will mostlikely win.
but for the purposes of this camcorder, that lack of firewire port is a minor set back, since some dvd-roms can read dvd-rams out side of their cases.
if you have a dvd-rom that supports dvd-ram disks, it's much faster and optimal to use it that way.
of course, this would mean that you can't write back onto the dvd-ram disk.
however, who'd want to at $25 per media?
if you have a fast enough computer re-encode the mpeg-2 to divx or xvid or something better.
and then save it on a cd.
if distribution is a concern, then, you can make a vcd format. much wider acceptability than any dvd formats... though quality suffers.
in anycase, if you had ordered this, i'd suggest that you don't cancel it for the sake of firewire or the lack of.
it's a good technology for what it does.
but it's not anywhere near consumer friendly.
in terms of setting a standard, dvd+rw will mostlikely win.
but for the purposes of this camcorder, that lack of firewire port is a minor set back, since some dvd-roms can read dvd-rams out side of their cases.
if you have a dvd-rom that supports dvd-ram disks, it's much faster and optimal to use it that way.
of course, this would mean that you can't write back onto the dvd-ram disk.
however, who'd want to at $25 per media?
if you have a fast enough computer re-encode the mpeg-2 to divx or xvid or something better.
and then save it on a cd.
if distribution is a concern, then, you can make a vcd format. much wider acceptability than any dvd formats... though quality suffers.
in anycase, if you had ordered this, i'd suggest that you don't cancel it for the sake of firewire or the lack of.
in terms of setting a standard, dvd+rw will mostlikely win.
Could be, but maybe not. DVD+ is probably better than DVD-, but DVD- has a heck of a good head start. The jury is still out on whether the DVD+R or DVD-R is more compatible with set top players. The 320 member DVD Forum (owners of the DVD logo trademark) is pushing DVD- (and soon DVD-Multi). The 9 member DVD Alliance is pushing DVD+R, with the exception of Sony, which is still using DVD-R in it's Vaio computers. Plus there was that first generation +RW fiasco, where many buyers bought the HP100i DVD+RW who were told that a firmware upgrade would allow them to record on DVD+R media. Did not happen.
In any event, both dvd-r and dvd+r are crap. I chose dvd-r because at the time it was out and cheaper, and supported by the DVD Forum and wanted to archive my old VHS tapes. DVD+ may not be around in 10 years, while the DVD Forum probably will be.
For those that can wait, DVD-27 (blue ray) will be out in the very near future, which is 27GB single layer DVD. Won't be cheap, but members of both forums support it. And since it is singal layer, home burners will not be that far off. They may be $5,000 like the original Pioneer DVD-R, but people did buy them. DVD-27 will be used to fit HDTV quality images on a DVD.
Could be, but maybe not. DVD+ is probably better than DVD-, but DVD- has a heck of a good head start. The jury is still out on whether the DVD+R or DVD-R is more compatible with set top players. The 320 member DVD Forum (owners of the DVD logo trademark) is pushing DVD- (and soon DVD-Multi). The 9 member DVD Alliance is pushing DVD+R, with the exception of Sony, which is still using DVD-R in it's Vaio computers. Plus there was that first generation +RW fiasco, where many buyers bought the HP100i DVD+RW who were told that a firmware upgrade would allow them to record on DVD+R media. Did not happen.
In any event, both dvd-r and dvd+r are crap. I chose dvd-r because at the time it was out and cheaper, and supported by the DVD Forum and wanted to archive my old VHS tapes. DVD+ may not be around in 10 years, while the DVD Forum probably will be.
For those that can wait, DVD-27 (blue ray) will be out in the very near future, which is 27GB single layer DVD. Won't be cheap, but members of both forums support it. And since it is singal layer, home burners will not be that far off. They may be $5,000 like the original Pioneer DVD-R, but people did buy them. DVD-27 will be used to fit HDTV quality images on a DVD.
only time will tell.
how about that phillips 3 cm cd.
i know we're now getting ot with this.
imagine a camcorder with divx encoding and that 3cm cdrw
they say it hold over 1gb on each cd.
with current divx, 1gb would mean about 2 hours of AV.
that'd be nice. of course you'd also need a blue laser cdrom or a firewire connection from the camcorder.
how about that phillips 3 cm cd.
i know we're now getting ot with this.
imagine a camcorder with divx encoding and that 3cm cdrw
they say it hold over 1gb on each cd.
with current divx, 1gb would mean about 2 hours of AV.
that'd be nice. of course you'd also need a blue laser cdrom or a firewire connection from the camcorder.
Yea, those small MPEG4/DivX ones will be nice. They are just a little harder to edit files and there needs to be a standard codec. I've read where the new MS WM8 and Real Player 9 have pretty good codecs, but primarily for streaming video.
the new dvd with higher storage capacity is the most interesting thing on this thread. thanks for the post.
If anyone actually gets one of these at the special price, please let the rest of us know. Cheers.
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