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PANASONIC TH42PD60U 42" Plasma Television --$999.00 +S/H

Just a warning to everyone... This TV is EDTV not HDTV, so it has lower resolution and is pretty much NOT worth buying at near any price since half the point of upgrading to a plasma is HD.

This, however, would be a nice to use as a display for a conference room or a monitor that displays information (like you see at airports) these type of images do not need high resolution screens.
 
edtv vs hdtv....there are countless threads on avsforums, one of the best av forum out there.


bottom line is if you are sitting at least 6 ft from the screen, you probably cannot tell ed from hd when viewing hd material. go to the store and see for yourself.


advantage of ed is for watching sdtv, it actually looks better (depends on tv of course), and for DVD it may be better or just as good as hd set. Reason is those sources have only 480 lines (480p) which is native for ED set, so no vertical scaling necessary.

So don't knock ED until you try it.
 
I bought this TV at HHGregg for $997 two weeks ago. It fits my needs perfectly--10' viewing distance, and I'm not paying for HD content. The main reason I bought it was for the slim form factor and wide-screen viewing. I'll eventually mount it on a wall.

It's quite light. ~70 lbs and I was able to set it up myself.
 
I have had this exact set for 10 months now and absolutely love it. Any HD program or DVD I watch on it looks excellent to me and as others have said, regular SD programs look much better than on a HDTV. Last year CR reviewed plasma TV's and their bottom line was that this Panasonic ED TV showed HD pictures better than many lower priced HDTV's. For the price I think it's a Hottie!
 
I bought an EDTV panasonic a couple of years ago (when equivalent 720p HDTVs were $2000 more), and have not regretted a single moment. as superflysocal stated, if you're at the optimal distance from the set (6-10 feet, I believe), you can't tell a difference between the two. dvds in particular are well-suited to EDTVs, and standard-def doesn't look quite as "noisy" as on HDTVs.

BUT, if I were in the market for a new plasma today, I'd definitely give the nod to the HDTV. the difference in price is no longer as significant (as little as 10% in some cases), and the advantages of a higher resolution could extend its lifetime quite a bit longer; if you're considering an xbox 360/ps3 or blu-ray/hd-dvd in the near future, I'd definitely get at least a 720p set.
 
Originally posted by: superflysocal
edtv vs hdtv....there are countless threads on avsforums, one of the best av forum out there.


bottom line is if you are sitting at least 6 ft from the screen, you probably cannot tell ed from hd when viewing hd material. go to the store and see for yourself.


advantage of ed is for watching sdtv, it actually looks better (depends on tv of course), and for DVD it may be better or just as good as hd set. Reason is those sources have only 480 lines (480p) which is native for ED set, so no vertical scaling necessary.

So don't knock ED until you try it.
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I sit ~10 feet from my 42" HD plasma, and there is a huge difference between watching DVDs and real HDTV. Just my opinion though.
 
Originally posted by: aeroguy
Originally posted by: superflysocal
edtv vs hdtv....there are countless threads on avsforums, one of the best av forum out there.


bottom line is if you are sitting at least 6 ft from the screen, you probably cannot tell ed from hd when viewing hd material. go to the store and see for yourself.


advantage of ed is for watching sdtv, it actually looks better (depends on tv of course), and for DVD it may be better or just as good as hd set. Reason is those sources have only 480 lines (480p) which is native for ED set, so no vertical scaling necessary.

So don't knock ED until you try it.
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I sit ~10 feet from my 42" HD plasma, and there is a huge difference between watching DVDs and real HDTV. Just my opinion though.
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Sat at more then 10 feet watching HD vs SD content and it was very easy to tell the difference between the two, but then it was a 50" - 60" HD TV.
I believe even on a 42" it would be very easy to see the difference between SD and HD quality.
Could be perhaps since I enjoy video games on my PC occasionally and demand high quality settings and from that I can tell picture quality easier.
 
Originally posted by: XNice
Originally posted by: maxcom
these suffer from "burn-in" ?
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"burn-in" hasn't beena problem for a few years now...
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I'm pretty sure thats not right.

From what I remember burn-in is a problem that has not gone away. The only screen safe from burn-in are LCD's.

If anyone can verify this that would be helpful.
 
Originally posted by: Trikat
Originally posted by: aeroguy
Originally posted by: superflysocal
edtv vs hdtv....there are countless threads on avsforums, one of the best av forum out there.


bottom line is if you are sitting at least 6 ft from the screen, you probably cannot tell ed from hd when viewing hd material. go to the store and see for yourself.


advantage of ed is for watching sdtv, it actually looks better (depends on tv of course), and for DVD it may be better or just as good as hd set. Reason is those sources have only 480 lines (480p) which is native for ED set, so no vertical scaling necessary.

So don't knock ED until you try it.
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I sit ~10 feet from my 42" HD plasma, and there is a huge difference between watching DVDs and real HDTV. Just my opinion though.
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Sat at more then 10 feet watching HD vs SD content and it was very easy to tell the difference between the two, but then it was a 50" - 60" HD TV.
I believe even on a 42" it would be very easy to see the difference between SD and HD quality.
Could be perhaps since I enjoy video games on my PC occasionally and demand high quality settings and from that I can tell picture quality easier.
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whoah, you guys totally miss my point.
I meant compare HD material on a 42" panasonic HDTV vs. HD material on a 42" panasonic EDTV, both at least 6 ft from the screen.
I AM NOT comparing SD material vs HD material...of course there is a difference at any length!
I would actually pick this panasonic edtv over some cheaper brand HDTV to view whatever material. Deep blacks, great shadow detail, etc.

 
Originally posted by: superflysocal
whoah, you guys totally miss my point.
I meant compare HD material on a 42" panasonic HDTV vs. HD material on a 42" panasonic EDTV, both at least 6 ft from the screen.
I AM NOT comparing SD material vs HD material...of course there is a difference at any length!
I would actually pick this panasonic edtv over some cheaper brand HDTV to view whatever material. Deep blacks, great shadow detail, etc.
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totally agree with you. panasonic are top of the line in plasmas, ED or otherwise. an off-brand HDTV may have a higher resolution, but the contrast ratio and overall picture quality of panasonic will be remarkably better.

don't take my word for it, go to a best buy or circuit city and compare for yourself. and make sure the settings aren't "optimized" for floor display.
 
Originally posted by: MrX8503
Originally posted by: XNice
Originally posted by: maxcom
these suffer from "burn-in" ?
Click to expand...

"burn-in" hasn't beena problem for a few years now...
Click to expand...

I'm pretty sure thats not right.

From what I remember burn-in is a problem that has not gone away. The only screen safe from burn-in are LCD's.

If anyone can verify this that would be helpful.
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It isn't right. Burn-in is still a problem. If you display a static image on a plasma for long periods of time, those phosphors will wear out at a faster rate than the rest on the TV and you will notice. Not sure where XNice got the idea that burn-in is no longer a problem.
 
Originally posted by: Zirconium
Originally posted by: MrX8503
Originally posted by: XNice
Originally posted by: maxcom
these suffer from "burn-in" ?
Click to expand...

"burn-in" hasn't beena problem for a few years now...
Click to expand...

I'm pretty sure thats not right.

From what I remember burn-in is a problem that has not gone away. The only screen safe from burn-in are LCD's.

If anyone can verify this that would be helpful.
Click to expand...

It isn't right. Burn-in is still a problem. If you display a static image on a plasma for long periods of time, those phosphors will wear out at a faster rate than the rest on the TV and you will notice. Not sure where XNice got the idea that burn-in is no longer a problem.
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Actually, burn-in is still possible, but it is less of a problem than it used be. The reason for this is many plasmas now incorporate "pixel shifting" technology that moves static images around, imperceptable to the naked eye and this makes the problem less likely. I've got a Pioneer PDP-433CMX and I've had some stationary images on it for up to 30 minutes. After 4 years, I have no burn-in issues. Just my experience.

 
Originally posted by: MrX8503
Originally posted by: XNice
Originally posted by: maxcom
these suffer from "burn-in" ?
Click to expand...

"burn-in" hasn't beena problem for a few years now...
Click to expand...

I'm pretty sure thats not right.

From what I remember burn-in is a problem that has not gone away. The only screen safe from burn-in are LCD's.

If anyone can verify this that would be helpful.
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LCDs and DLPs are both safe from burn in. From what I've heard, the chances of burn in on a plasma is not much more than on a tube TV. That being said, if you do heavy gaming, especially games with HUDs or non-changing images, get an LCD or DLP.
 
Originally posted by: mjreddy
Just a warning to everyone... This TV is EDTV not HDTV, so it has lower resolution and is pretty much NOT worth buying at near any price since half the point of upgrading to a plasma is HD.

This, however, would be a nice to use as a display for a conference room or a monitor that displays information (like you see at airports) these type of images do not need high resolution screens.
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wow this is how bad imformation is spread very easy...
do not listen to this. like others have said its very hard to tell the difference after 6ft or so.. who sits that close anyway. I've had an edtv for over a year and its great. i use an htpc on it as well as antenna hd programming.. its great. highly recommended.
 
Once you go HDTV you'll never want to go back...enough said. There have been deals like this for EDTVs before this is nothing special.

 
Originally posted by: czech09
Once you go HDTV you'll never want to go back...enough said. There have been deals like this for EDTVs before this is nothing special.
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- Sorry, maybe I missed it, but where has these been a 42" EDTV from a GOOD BRAND for sale for $999?
 
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