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Originally posted by: Muse
When you people talk about fast or slow lenses are you referring to the widest available aperture at various focal lengths (i.e. lower number for aperture translates to faster shutter speed at the same exposure setting) or the speed of the lens's autofocus mechanisms? I presume the former, but it's a point of confusion for me.
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the former. and fast is relative. f/4 is fast for a 600 mm lens, middling for a 200 mm lens, and ridiculously slow for a 50 mm lens.
 
So how much use is manual control really, when your lens is f/2.0-f/2.8 only? Yeah you can change ISO/Shutter speed, but you're pretty much stuck to using whatever shutter speed exposes right for the light you're in if you don't want to pump up the ISO so much.

I'm sure it's very different on these little compacts vs. DSLR's, but still.
 
Originally posted by: OdiN
So how much use is manual control really, when your lens is f/2.0-f/2.8 only? Yeah you can change ISO/Shutter speed, but you're pretty much stuck to using whatever shutter speed exposes right for the light you're in if you don't want to pump up the ISO so much.

I'm sure it's very different on these little compacts vs. DSLR's, but still.
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why do you think the lens is stuck wide open?
 
While f/2 would be useful for low-light situations, it still would not produce the shallow DoF that SLRs can produce. Even though the LX3's sensor is large for a point and shoot, it's still 5-10x smaller than an SLR sensor. f/2 on the LX3 would be more like f/8 or f/10 on an SLR.

Originally posted by: OdiN
So how much use is manual control really, when your lens is f/2.0-f/2.8 only? Yeah you can change ISO/Shutter speed, but you're pretty much stuck to using whatever shutter speed exposes right for the light you're in if you don't want to pump up the ISO so much.

I'm sure it's very different on these little compacts vs. DSLR's, but still.
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The lens is not f/2 to f/2.8 only. It's f/2-f/8 at the wide end, and f/2.8 to f/8 at the telephoto end.
 
Oh okay....I don't know where I got 2.0-2.8 from then. 2.0/2.8-8 should be fine for the P&S. Maybe I was only seeing the 2.0-2.8 for the wide end.
 
i got to play with one of these today at the Pop Photo labs. feels solid. i like the layout but of course miss a built in optical viewfinder.

when they review it they will let me know but right now one of the editors says if he had to buy a compact, this is what he would get from having used it this last week.

im gonna have to get one. finally a small camera - pocketable that is engineered for dslr users to take on the go. this is the lil street shooting digital cam that hopefully starts a new trend.
 
My LX3 arrived today and I played with it last night. I can post a mini review (from a consumer POV, not a pro), if anyone wants. Or you can ask me questions.
 
I will post when I get a chance.

Aharami - I have a SD800 IS and Fuji F45fd (the successor to the F31fd, but obviously not as good)
 
Originally posted by: sygyzy
My LX3 arrived today and I played with it last night. I can post a mini review (from a consumer POV, not a pro), if anyone wants. Or you can ask me questions.
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post some pics!

a comparison ISO set would be nice. preferably a low-contrast pattern (that is where noise reduction can really destroy detail).


and how is focusing speeds, shutter lag, flash cycle times, etc.?
 
I will get to this soon I promise guys. Thing is, I work all day and am busy at night. Besides, I think pics with natural sunlight may be better than inside my apartment at night with tungsten.

Anyway, I have some questions beforehand regarding setup:

1. If possible, should I try to get all criteria to match? I know I can get ISO to match (across cameras) but I won't be able to control shutter or aperture except on the LX3. I don't understand too much about photography but my concern is if I did three pictures side by side of the same subject, but one is 1/50 and one is 1/80, there may be some external variable that makes the comparison invalid. Thoughts?

2. Do I need to match zoom? For example, (fake numbers here) if the widest one camera gets is 24mm and the other is 32mm, do I need to zoom in the 24mm to match 32mm, if both are taken from the same distance?

3. Should I enable to disable any settings such as AWB, sharpening, etc?

Thanks.
 
imaging resource has the lx3 up in its comparometer. noise was competitive with similar compacts like the G9. at base ISO it's competitive with SLRs, though more sharpened.
 
Originally posted by: sygyzy
I will post when I get a chance.

Aharami - I have a SD800 IS and Fuji F45fd (the successor to the F31fd, but obviously not as good)
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ooh, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it compared to the Fuji. I have (well my fiancee has) the F31fd. Love it to death
 
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