Palin's 'going rogue'

[Gonad the Barbarian]

It's cute that she seems to think she might have a national political career ahead of her. It's scary that others seem to think so.

 

[Red Dawn]

No chemistry between the two.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Critisizing the Michigan pullout as well as the robo-calls are very stupid moves by Palin so it doesn't surprise me that aides are starting to turn on her. Poor McCain.

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I somewhat disagree, Palin is making some principled stands, she sets herself with some blame McCain cred, and she probably realizes that McCain has lost the election already anyway.

Because its almost certain that everyone in the GOP will wake up this November 5'th
and realize the extent of the GOP disaster. McCain's standing in the GOP is going to really suffer, as everyone in the GOP will blame McCain for the loss. And at age 72,
McCain is too old for any comeback.

And once the King is dead, everyone else will be maneuvering to be the next King or Queen. And being able to say, I told McCain he shouldn't have done that is a plus.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Perknose
There's that 25-30% of the electorate that are hard-core, die-hard social conservative supporters. Bush calls them "my base" and Palin calls them the "real America."

Bush was a good combination of this because, while he pissed the hell out of a lot of people, there were enough people outside the Republican base that liked him that he was able to have his cake and eat it too. That kind of balance is pretty rare though, I don't think Palin is anywhere close to good enough to pull it off.

Oh, agreed, I don't think she will ever become President, but I do think she will henceforth be a major figure in the Republican Party simply because she's perhaps the purest fundie, and that she will have a shot at being the R standard bearer in 2012.

After losing the Calif. gubernatorial race in 1962, Nixon came back from the angry, disgraced depths to become President in a time of great social upheaval.

Guess what? We're heading for, if not already in, times of great economic and social upheaval.

That's why that negro boy is doing so well.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Perknose
There's that 25-30% of the electorate that are hard-core, die-hard social conservative supporters. Bush calls them "my base" and Palin calls them the "real America."

Bush was a good combination of this because, while he pissed the hell out of a lot of people, there were enough people outside the Republican base that liked him that he was able to have his cake and eat it too. That kind of balance is pretty rare though, I don't think Palin is anywhere close to good enough to pull it off.

Oh, agreed, I don't think she will ever become President, but I do think she will henceforth be a major figure in the Republican Party simply because she's perhaps the purest fundie, and that she will have a shot at being the R standard bearer in 2012.

After losing the Calif. gubernatorial race in 1962, Nixon came back from the angry, disgraced depths to become President in a time of great social upheaval.

Guess what? We're heading for, if not already in, times of great economic and social upheaval.

That's why that negro boy is doing so well.

Palin will definitely be enriched monetarily.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
No chemistry between the two.

Maybe if they slept together it could've released some of the tension. That should've been part of the vetting process.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: techs
Palin is angling to take over as leader of the Republican party.
Election 2012 begins now.....
I am thinking that even if McCain wins this year this is her way of separating herself from anything McCain might do that she might have to say she was against when she runs in 2012.
Possibly even preparing for a run in the primaries AGAINST McCain in 2012.
If Mcain loses, the big three for 2012 right now are Jeb Bush, Pawlenty and Palin.

Is there any proof of this?

It's speculation knucklehead:roll:

A simple "no" would suffice. But I love it when dems try to guess what the future of the Republican Party will be.

 

[bctbct]

I doubt she has a future in the republican party. She will be seen as a liability and even the repubs turned against her in Alaska.

She was a gimmick that didnt work.

 

[L00PY]

Originally posted by: redly1
Jeb Bush is one of the big 3 R contenders..?? I would have figured that name would be blacklisted

As far as candidates go, Jeb Bush would definitely be a better choice than Palin. The two biggest knocks against him would be his last name (less important the further we get away from the current administration) and his wife (less important if we end up with an African American first lady).

If he were to re-enter the national political stage with say a Senate run, if he won a seat, he'd be well positioned to seriously contend for the 2016 nomination. If Obama wins, and somehow is a horrible president, 2012 would make sense too.

The only way Palin stays on the national stage again is if somehow McCain wins. Being vetted for the VP slot has reveals up too much about her. It's a shame McCain didn't bother vetting his choice.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Critisizing the Michigan pullout as well as the robo-calls are very stupid moves by Palin so it doesn't surprise me that aides are starting to turn on her. Poor McCain.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I somewhat disagree, Palin is making some principled stands, she sets herself with some blame McCain cred, and she probably realizes that McCain has lost the election already anyway.

Because its almost certain that everyone in the GOP will wake up this November 5'th
and realize the extent of the GOP disaster. McCain's standing in the GOP is going to really suffer, as everyone in the GOP will blame McCain for the loss. And at age 72,
McCain is too old for any comeback.

And once the King is dead, everyone else will be maneuvering to be the next King or Queen. And being able to say, I told McCain he shouldn't have done that is a plus.

But it just doesn't have the sound of honesty when she tries and says "I told McCain not to pick such a bimbo as a VP."

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Critisizing the Michigan pullout as well as the robo-calls are very stupid moves by Palin so it doesn't surprise me that aides are starting to turn on her. Poor McCain.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I somewhat disagree, Palin is making some principled stands, she sets herself with some blame McCain cred, and she probably realizes that McCain has lost the election already anyway.

Because its almost certain that everyone in the GOP will wake up this November 5'th
and realize the extent of the GOP disaster. McCain's standing in the GOP is going to really suffer, as everyone in the GOP will blame McCain for the loss. And at age 72,
McCain is too old for any comeback.

And once the King is dead, everyone else will be maneuvering to be the next King or Queen. And being able to say, I told McCain he shouldn't have done that is a plus.

Maybe he is going for a 2016 election? He will run his campaign somewhere between his 2000 and 2008 tries in terms of dirtiness.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
It's cute that she seems to think she might have a national political career ahead of her. It's scary that others seem to think so.

Agreed. If she's running for job #1 instead of 2nd fiddle, she won't be able to be isolated from interviews. She'll have to do more debates - debates that have a lot of back and forth, rather than question and answer sessions. AND, she'll be held accountable for actually answering the questions posed to her in those debates.

4 years of preparation isn't enough for someone that took as long as she did to complete a journalism degree. She would make an even bigger fool of herself & would have the entire media organization out to get her for accusing them of "gotcha" reporting when "gotcha" really meant "you can't even handle an easy question about what news sources you read."

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: techs
I am thinking that even if McCain wins this year this is her way of separating herself from anything McCain might do that she might have to say she was against when she runs in 2012.
Possibly even preparing for a run in the primaries AGAINST McCain in 2012.
If Mcain loses, the big three for 2012 right now are Jeb Bush, Pawlenty and Palin.

Pawlenty and Palin would be horrible presidential candidates. Better watch out for Gov. Jindal.

I can see a Obama vs Jindal election in 2012. Unless Jindal decides to wait until 2016.

 

[Lemon law]

Any four year glimpse into political crystal balls will be cloudy at best. Like horse races, the favorite seldom wins. But I agree, Jindal is another worth watching.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Maybe they're trying to set her up so that the McCain campaign can dump her and provide the public with a good explanation--disloyalty, mutiny.

 

[seemingly random]

It just keeps getting better and better. Kinda funny watching the repugs eating their young. The following is from The American Spectator, so you're on your own.

http://spectator.org/archives/...7/post-defeat-planners

ROMNEY ANTI-PALIN
Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House, have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election. "Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012," says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. "The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He's in charge on November 5th."

Romney has kept a low profile nationally since being denied the vice presidential nomination. He is currently traveling for the National Republican Congressional Committee in support of some House members, and has attended events for a handful of other House members who have sought his support, but he has traveled little for the McCain-Palin ticket. "He said the only time he'd travel for us is if we assured him that national cameras would be there," says a McCain campaign communications aide. "He's traveled to Nevada and a couple other states for us. That's about it."

Should McCain-Palin not win next week, Romney is expected to mount another presidential run, though it isn't clear that he has handled himself particularly well since losing the nomination. He failed to support or espouse conservative positions on the economic bailout bill in an effective or meaningful way, and he has turned down opportunities to endorse and work for conservative candidates in House or Senate seats unless they were assured of winning.

The most glaring oversight was Romney's refusal to do a phone recording for Massachusetts Republican Jeff Beatty, who is challenging Sen. John Kerry. "Mitt supposedly cares about Massachusetts, but won't even return phone calls asking for help," says a conservative working for Beatty in Boston. "It's a tough race, but the least he could do is help. He's showing his true colors."

Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a "diva" and was going off message intentionally. The former and current Romney supporters further are pushing Romney supporters for key Republican jobs, including head of the Republican National Committee.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: seemingly random
It just keeps getting better and better. Kinda funny watching the repugs eating their young. The following is from The American Spectator, so you're on your own.

http://spectator.org/archives/...7/post-defeat-planners

ROMNEY ANTI-PALIN
Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House, have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election. "Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012," says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. "The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He's in charge on November 5th."

Romney has kept a low profile nationally since being denied the vice presidential nomination. He is currently traveling for the National Republican Congressional Committee in support of some House members, and has attended events for a handful of other House members who have sought his support, but he has traveled little for the McCain-Palin ticket. "He said the only time he'd travel for us is if we assured him that national cameras would be there," says a McCain campaign communications aide. "He's traveled to Nevada and a couple other states for us. That's about it."

Should McCain-Palin not win next week, Romney is expected to mount another presidential run, though it isn't clear that he has handled himself particularly well since losing the nomination. He failed to support or espouse conservative positions on the economic bailout bill in an effective or meaningful way, and he has turned down opportunities to endorse and work for conservative candidates in House or Senate seats unless they were assured of winning.

The most glaring oversight was Romney's refusal to do a phone recording for Massachusetts Republican Jeff Beatty, who is challenging Sen. John Kerry. "Mitt supposedly cares about Massachusetts, but won't even return phone calls asking for help," says a conservative working for Beatty in Boston. "It's a tough race, but the least he could do is help. He's showing his true colors."

Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a "diva" and was going off message intentionally. The former and current Romney supporters further are pushing Romney supporters for key Republican jobs, including head of the Republican National Committee.

LOL! :laugh:

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: seemingly random
It just keeps getting better and better. Kinda funny watching the repugs eating their young. The following is from The American Spectator, so you're on your own.

http://spectator.org/archives/...7/post-defeat-planners

ROMNEY ANTI-PALIN
Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House, have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election. "Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012," says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. "The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He's in charge on November 5th."

Romney has kept a low profile nationally since being denied the vice presidential nomination. He is currently traveling for the National Republican Congressional Committee in support of some House members, and has attended events for a handful of other House members who have sought his support, but he has traveled little for the McCain-Palin ticket. "He said the only time he'd travel for us is if we assured him that national cameras would be there," says a McCain campaign communications aide. "He's traveled to Nevada and a couple other states for us. That's about it."

Should McCain-Palin not win next week, Romney is expected to mount another presidential run, though it isn't clear that he has handled himself particularly well since losing the nomination. He failed to support or espouse conservative positions on the economic bailout bill in an effective or meaningful way, and he has turned down opportunities to endorse and work for conservative candidates in House or Senate seats unless they were assured of winning.

The most glaring oversight was Romney's refusal to do a phone recording for Massachusetts Republican Jeff Beatty, who is challenging Sen. John Kerry. "Mitt supposedly cares about Massachusetts, but won't even return phone calls asking for help," says a conservative working for Beatty in Boston. "It's a tough race, but the least he could do is help. He's showing his true colors."

Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a "diva" and was going off message intentionally. The former and current Romney supporters further are pushing Romney supporters for key Republican jobs, including head of the Republican National Committee.

LOL! :laugh:

Mitt Romney backstabbing Palin, this is hilarious! :laugh:

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Juddog
Mitt Romney backstabbing Palin, this is hilarious! :laugh:

It's even more funny that current McCain-Palin staffers, that formerly were working for/with Romney, are stabbing her in the back as we type. Priceless.

 

[seemingly random]

More fun. From other sources, it appears that Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol, had much to do with foisting palin onto mccain, having courted her since 2007. Now they're working as debunkers and apologists.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...Barnes_vs_Wallace.html

Palin backers' counterattack on John MCCain's staff over Sarah Palin's wardrobe flap continues, as Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes, echoing Bill Kristol, demanded today that a McCain staffer step up and take blame for buying Palin the expensive clothes. He blamed a specific, female staffer for the mess.

"The person who went and bought hte clothes and, as I understand it put the clothes on her credit card, went to Saks and Neiman Marcus...the staffer who did that has been a coward," he said, for failing to take responsibility for the distraction, and alllowing Palin to take the hit.

He then said was talking about McCain advisor Nicolle Wallace, who has been a focus of Palin's admirers' ire.

Wallace fired back in an email to me that Barnes is "incorrect" that she charged the clothes to her card, and "incorrect that I went to any stores."

Public records suggested that another Republican operative, Jeff Larson, paid for the clothes.

"The campaign has made no secret of the fact that it purchased clothes and made them available to Sarah and Todd Palin and their five children for campaign events during the convention. The campaign has also made clear that one third of the items were returned," she said. "I will not engage in a blame game-if folks are determined to lay this at my feet, I accept that from fred barnes or your unnamed sources or anyone else, and hope we can move on and discuss the big choices in this election."

 

[miketheidiot]

Pawlenty and Palin would be horrible presidential candidates. Better watch out for Gov. Jindal.

I can see a Obama vs Jindal election in 2012. Unless Jindal decides to wait until 2016.

whats wrong with pawlenty?