Palin quoted extreme right, near fascist writer in speech

[DukeN]

http://www.boingboing.net/2008...rican-fascist-wes.html

Cleverly referred to as an "unidentified writer", hoping to hit her target audience of the right-wing racists while concealing it under their "attempt" to convince moderates as well.

Of course Republicans are overjoyed at these "revelations".

 

[Dari]

No surprise there considering her crowd wanted to see Obama lynched. "Kill him" they screamed.

 

[sandorski]

The source is, well, bad, but the sentiment of the quoted line is good. Although I'd be afraid to know in which context that line was taken from. Does kinda make one wonder what her reading history has been. :Q

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: sandorski
The source is, well, bad, but the sentiment of the quoted line is good. Although I'd be afraid to know in which context that line was taken from. Does kinda make one wonder what her reading history has been. :Q

She reads EVERYTHING.

 

[Lemon law]

She reads everything and understands nothing-------fixed.

 

[AstroManLuca]

The comments at your link were all that was really needed. Basically the discussion is this:

Person A: "I don't think she should be criticized because the quote wasn't racist."
Person B: "But the fact that she quoted a complete bigot says something about who she views as a quote-worthy person."
Person A: "Then shouldn't you blame the speechwriter?"
Person B: "Oh."

 

[Moonbeam]

Hopefully, like a pimple on your ass, in another month Palin will go back to her Igloo and never be heard from again.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
The comments at your link were all that was really needed. Basically the discussion is this:

Person A: "I don't think she should be criticized because the quote wasn't racist."
Person B: "But the fact that she quoted a complete bigot says something about who she views as a quote-worthy person."
Person A: "Then shouldn't you blame the speechwriter?"
Person B: "Oh."

So if she were to give a speech endorsing a nuclear jihad against Israel, we should blame her speechwriter, not her? At what point does personal accountability come in to the words that someone is speaking themselves?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
The comments at your link were all that was really needed. Basically the discussion is this:

Person A: "I don't think she should be criticized because the quote wasn't racist."
Person B: "But the fact that she quoted a complete bigot says something about who she views as a quote-worthy person."
Person A: "Then shouldn't you blame the speechwriter?"
Person B: "Oh."

So if she were to give a speech endorsing a nuclear jihad against Israel, we should blame her speechwriter, not her? At what point does personal accountability come in to the words that someone is speaking themselves?

Well, what she quoted had nothing offensive about it. Who she quoted is only a step or 2 from Hitler himself.

 

[ProfJohn]

It is a good thing Palin didn't call this guy her 'moral compass' huh?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is a good thing Palin didn't call this guy her 'moral compass' huh?

ouch 😀

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is a good thing Palin didn't call this guy her 'moral compass' huh?

For sure, but the unstated implication is ridiculous.

 

[JS80]

I thought you lefties would embrace an anti-semite.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Hopefully, like a pimple on your ass, in another month Palin will go back to her Igloo and never be heard from again.

You have igloos on your ass?

 

[ProfJohn]

I wonder what the left would say if she quoted Rev Wright?

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
The comments at your link were all that was really needed. Basically the discussion is this:

Person A: "I don't think she should be criticized because the quote wasn't racist."
Person B: "But the fact that she quoted a complete bigot says something about who she views as a quote-worthy person."
Person A: "Then shouldn't you blame the speechwriter?"
Person B: "Oh."

So if she were to give a speech endorsing a nuclear jihad against Israel, we should blame her speechwriter, not her? At what point does personal accountability come in to the words that someone is speaking themselves?

Well, what she quoted had nothing offensive about it. Who she quoted is only a step or 2 from Hitler himself.

Let's do a little thought experiment:

Suppose Palin quoted Hitler himself - or maybe Osama Bin Laden - but the line quoted sounded reasonable. Are you saying that no one should be alarmed at the source of the quotation?

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
The comments at your link were all that was really needed. Basically the discussion is this:

Person A: "I don't think she should be criticized because the quote wasn't racist."
Person B: "But the fact that she quoted a complete bigot says something about who she views as a quote-worthy person."
Person A: "Then shouldn't you blame the speechwriter?"
Person B: "Oh."

So if she were to give a speech endorsing a nuclear jihad against Israel, we should blame her speechwriter, not her? At what point does personal accountability come in to the words that someone is speaking themselves?

I agree it's sloppy and unprofessional, but those words have described Palin perfectly so far. I think it's a poor reflection on her own attention to detail that she didn't look up the quote before giving the speech (especially since the speech explicitly mentions that it's a quote), but since the quote itself isn't offensive I don't think it's worth dogpiling on her for it.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
The comments at your link were all that was really needed. Basically the discussion is this:

Person A: "I don't think she should be criticized because the quote wasn't racist."
Person B: "But the fact that she quoted a complete bigot says something about who she views as a quote-worthy person."
Person A: "Then shouldn't you blame the speechwriter?"
Person B: "Oh."

So if she were to give a speech endorsing a nuclear jihad against Israel, we should blame her speechwriter, not her? At what point does personal accountability come in to the words that someone is speaking themselves?

Well, what she quoted had nothing offensive about it. Who she quoted is only a step or 2 from Hitler himself.

Let's do a little thought experiment:

Suppose Palin quoted Hitler himself - or maybe Osama Bin Laden - but the line quoted sounded reasonable. Are you saying that no one should be alarmed at the source of the quotation?

Edit: Yeah, suppose Palin said, "Our youth are our future, and we must protect them from the influences of the evil ones among us." And it turned out that was a direct quote from Hitler. No problem, right?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is a good thing Palin didn't call this guy her 'moral compass' huh?

Like you and McCain she doesn't have a moral compass, that's why you all can lie and think nothing about it.

 

[OrByte]

I wonder what the right would say if Biden quoted David Duke?

 

[BigDH01]

Originally posted by: JS80
I thought you lefties would embrace an anti-semite.

Why is that again?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
The comments at your link were all that was really needed. Basically the discussion is this:

Person A: "I don't think she should be criticized because the quote wasn't racist."
Person B: "But the fact that she quoted a complete bigot says something about who she views as a quote-worthy person."
Person A: "Then shouldn't you blame the speechwriter?"
Person B: "Oh."

So if she were to give a speech endorsing a nuclear jihad against Israel, we should blame her speechwriter, not her? At what point does personal accountability come in to the words that someone is speaking themselves?

Well, what she quoted had nothing offensive about it. Who she quoted is only a step or 2 from Hitler himself.

Let's do a little thought experiment:

Suppose Palin quoted Hitler himself - or maybe Osama Bin Laden - but the line quoted sounded reasonable. Are you saying that no one should be alarmed at the source of the quotation?

Do you\we really know anything about the author besides what is written in Wiki?

 

[RightIsWrong]

This is much ado about nothing. The quote was appropriate even if the source of the quote is a nut job.

Now, if she pulls out a lot of other quotes of his....it could show a liking or agreement with his core sentiments and that could be a problem. This single quote however.... fagetaboutit.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: OrByte
I wonder what the right would say if Biden quoted David Duke?

This.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
The comments at your link were all that was really needed. Basically the discussion is this:

Person A: "I don't think she should be criticized because the quote wasn't racist."
Person B: "But the fact that she quoted a complete bigot says something about who she views as a quote-worthy person."
Person A: "Then shouldn't you blame the speechwriter?"
Person B: "Oh."

So if she were to give a speech endorsing a nuclear jihad against Israel, we should blame her speechwriter, not her? At what point does personal accountability come in to the words that someone is speaking themselves?

Except that the quote didn't advocate anything bad. The quote was, ?We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity.? If one had never heard of Pegler before, there's no reason for the quote to suggest that they need to look any deeper into his history.

What about a speech that contained the statement, "ordinary citizens don't need guns"? Should that be omitted just because it's a direct quote from Heinrich Himmler? Is it even reasonable to assume that a person should somehow know that the quote is from Himmler if they aren't told? Does the fact that Himmler is the person who said it mean that it's automatically a wrong view because of that? The answer to all of these questions is "no".

I'm no fan of Palin, but this quote witch-hunt is ridiculous.

ZV