Palin lies again

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: QED
So you blooming idiots really believe Palin doesn't read newspapers? And doesn't know of any court cases she disagrees about when she wrote a dissenting editorial letter criticizing the Supreme Court's slowness in handling the Exonn case earlier this year?

Sorry, but are you really gullibal enough to believe that SHE wrote the letter???

It wasn't a letter about the Supreme Court case, it was a letter about the half-billion dollars Exxon owes her state's people, She showed zero legal apritude on the issue.

She was about as involved in the legalities with that as she was involved in foreign policy when looking at the coast of Russia.

 

[TechAZ]

I don't trust a word she says....then again I believe lawyers are far better liars than normal people, but at least I only have some doubt instead of knowing for sure that they are liars.

 

[QED]

Let's assume for the sake of argument that she doesn't read a newspaper or weekly magazine on a regular basis. That's a pretty absurd assumption, but let's go with it for a minute.

So, now she's asked "What newspapers and magazines do you read to stay informed?", you have to assume one of two things:

A) Palin does not know the name of a single daily newspaper or weekly magazine to lie about reading regularly

or

B) Palin, feeling a tad paranoid, feels that Couric isn't just inquiring about her reading habits but is instead trying to set her up or insinuate that Alaskans are so far away from
the Continental US and are out of touch with its issues and problems.

After having read quite a few non-flattering articles on Palin (particularly one detailing her clashes with out-of-state environmentalists written last year), it seems that she IS somewhat defensive about her home State and has a tendency to feel that anyone not from
Alaska who criticizes her is criticisizing Alaska and is just ignorant of Alaskan culture. This lends credence to (B).

Of course, I can't stop you if you want to believe that a woman who was able to become the Governor of any US State doesn't really know the name of a single major daily newspaper or weekly news magazine...

Of course, there is option C-- she just had a major brain freeze during her third major primetime interview. In any case, it does look bad...

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Dari
Nobody I know who reads The Economist speaks like her.

irrefutable logic.

 

[Mill]

Everyone doesn't lie about reading the Economist, I am an avid reader of that newspaper. However, I would bet my ass that Palin has never read it on a consistent basis. Perhaps an article or two but nothing more than that. If I were the interviewer I would have asked her to name a couple of the sections like Lexington, Bagehot, or Buttonwood and what they refer to. Anyone who actively reads it would know what that meant. I have little doubt she would have been completely clueless. All three of those came to mind right off the top of my head. Or, he could have asked her how ALL reader letters begin (Sir --). At the very least, would it have hurt to ask who is on this week's cover in the US(Henry Paulson).

Unbelievable. Talk about getting a free pass. I don't think she was lying about being pissed off, though. She was pissed -- because Couric wouldn't give her a free ride like she is accustomed to. I cannot wait to see what the Economist actually has to say about this, but I feel a snarky comment is likely.

Anyone can say they "read" a particular newspaper or magazine because most -- if not all -- have Electronic content online. Perhaps it is not an outright lie to say "I read X" if you check out the occasion article there, but it is being dishonest. A better question would be to ask her what she subscribes to.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: Dari
After thinking about the newspapers she reads, Palin comes up with two of the most respected journals in the world. Nobody I know who reads The Economist speaks like her. I'm not sure why they keep lying like this.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...Economist.html?showall

What Palin reads: NY Times, Economist

I linked earlier to Palin's continued criticism of the media on Fox. But Palin also took the opportunity to answer two questions she didn't answer when asked by Katie Couric: what she reads, and to name a Supreme Court case she disagreed with.

Carl Cameron, discussing the interview earlier on Fox: "We talked about some of the things that happened in every interview proceeding her interview, including her inability to enter some questions from Katie Couric. She was not able to talk about Supreme Court rulings that she disagreed with. And there is a sense that she went back to look at the books and got her answer."

GOV. SARAH PALIN: A recent one, Kennedy vs. Louisiana where the Supreme Court will tell a state that they cannot impose the death penalty even on repeat, rapists. A state's right or taken away by the supreme court and we will not be able to decide ourselves whether the death penalty could be implemented in that. I am certainly not a supporter of that decision. Also, eminent domain. That affects me as a governor and as a mayor as well. private property rights are so precious in this nation and for the Supreme Court to have sided with government, instead of the people, the property owners, that was frustrating. Another one personally affecting me, the Exxon Valdez oil spill. The oil company decimated Alaska's coastline and much of our fisheries and coastal communities livelihood, and they sided with Exxon on the punitive damage that was to be awarded. that was frustrating.
Cameron added that Palin said she reads the New York Times, The Economist, and other publications.

(This was from a rush transcript).

UPDATE: A reader points out that my colleague Mike Allen was onto something last night on "Hardball"

MATTHEWS: But I still am stunned with her inability to answer these general knowledge questions that most people who read the paper can answer. I don`t know why she is afraid to answer them. Maybe it`s her bad training. My suspicion is that she has the same lack of intellectual curiosity that the president of the United States has right now. And that is scary.

HEILEMANN: Mike, do you think -- do you think when she wouldn`t -- when she wouldn`t answer what she -- what she reads, do you think that was because she doesn`t read, or do you think that is because she was afraid to say the local say the local Wasilla newspaper, or she was afraid to say "The New York Times"? Which of those do you think it was?

ALLEN: Somebody told me, she should have just said "The Economist." Everybody lies about reading "The Economist."

All those big words. Some of them have two syllables or more....Too much....

-Robert

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: QED
So you blooming idiots really believe Palin doesn't read newspapers? And doesn't know of any court cases she disagrees about when she wrote a dissenting editorial letter criticizing the Supreme Court's slowness in handling the Exonn case earlier this year?

Uh, do you have a link to the letter? Were you there when she wrote it? I suppose you think Bush writes all the White House statements too? Thankfully, no.

Anyone who continues to say nuke-u-lur isn't writing her own letters to the editor, IMHO.

You don't have a copy of her college English grades do you? I'd also love to see her Senior Thesis, assuming the University of North Dakota, Hoople Extension, Night Divison required them. Oh, erm, darn, that's right, she was wait listed....

-Robert

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: QED
I agree-- I'd like to hear her views on the issues as well. But what I won't do is presume that she's never read a newspaper because she can't or won't name one specifically during an interview.

Actually, she didn't need to name any. In her interview she clearly said she read "all of them"... this leaves little time for governing I am sure - so given that, she has done a good job.

This.

""Well, bless yer little heart, gosh darn it. I'm not gonna answer the question but I'm gonna talk straight to the American people. I'd like to give a Shout Out to all the newspapers in the good ol' Joe Six-Pack Hockey Mom USA because I read all of them.""

 

[Atreus21]

Okay, so it seems the main premise of this thread is that, because Palin isn't a democrat, she must be lying when she says she reads the NYT or the Economist.

That in itself is hilarious.

So what happens when a republican picks up the NYT? The paper bursts into flames and sears their eyes? "FIRE BAAAAD!"

Idiocy, fellas.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama
LOL I hope the NYT slams Palin by saying: "If you are reading this, let you know that we 100% endorse BO and JB"

:>Þ I hope the NYT says "We applaud her for reading the NYT. We just wish that if she was a devoted reader that she'd subscribe. As the NYT in print is unavailable in her hometown & where she spends her time as governor, we assume she's not reading a paper copy. As we're able to track IP addresses of people reading our newspaper online, we also wish to state that no one in Wasilla reads the NYT's online."

 

[DealMonkey]

Worse than any of this, she pronounces "nuclear" wrong. She did it in the debates about 5 million times. Can you imagine? Another 4 years of "nuke-U-lar." She's like W's retarded cousin or something . . .

 

[Mavtek3100]

Moot points, Palin doesn't read newspapers...... It's obvious to me it doesn't take much brain power to be running for president, look at our last president and our 2 contenders. "Look Tim, Jim..... John I, I wasn't part of the legislation, you're just wrong.... that's just incorrect....". (Barrack Obama in the last debate when we all know he introduced that legislation).

"Look my friends we have to accept that those jobs just aren't going to come back" "I wouldn't mind if we had troops in Iraq for 100 years" (John McCain)

Palin, McCain, and Obama are mistake ridden people just like the rest of us, except they just happen to be wrong most of the time.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: QED
So you blooming idiots really believe Palin doesn't read newspapers? And doesn't know of any court cases she disagrees about when she wrote a dissenting editorial letter criticizing the Supreme Court's slowness in handling the Exonn case earlier this year?

Uh, do you have a link to the letter? Were you there when she wrote it? I suppose you think Bush writes all the White House statements too? Thankfully, no.

Anyone who continues to say nuke-u-lur isn't writing her own letters to the editor, IMHO.

You don't have a copy of her college English grades do you? I'd also love to see her Senior Thesis, assuming the University of North Dakota, Hoople Extension, Night Divison required them. Oh, erm, darn, that's right, she was wait listed....

-Robert

You don't have Obama's Harvard grades, either... do you? Makes you wonder why he's not released them.... hmm?

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Atreus21
Okay, so it seems the main premise of this thread is that, because Palin isn't a democrat, she must be lying when she says she reads the NYT or the Economist.

That in itself is hilarious.

So what happens when a republican picks up the NYT? The paper bursts into flames and sears their eyes? "FIRE BAAAAD!"

Idiocy, fellas.

The Economist isn't a liberal rag in the least. It's not even American.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: QED
So you blooming idiots really believe Palin doesn't read newspapers? And doesn't know of any court cases she disagrees about when she wrote a dissenting editorial letter criticizing the Supreme Court's slowness in handling the Exonn case earlier this year?

Uh, do you have a link to the letter? Were you there when she wrote it? I suppose you think Bush writes all the White House statements too? Thankfully, no.

Anyone who continues to say nuke-u-lur isn't writing her own letters to the editor, IMHO.

You don't have a copy of her college English grades do you? I'd also love to see her Senior Thesis, assuming the University of North Dakota, Hoople Extension, Night Divison required them. Oh, erm, darn, that's right, she was wait listed....

-Robert

You don't have Obama's Harvard grades, either... do you? Makes you wonder why he's not released them.... hmm?

Ummm...just to be clear, you equate Palin's actions and abilities while Governor to what Obama's grades were when he was at Harvard? Doesn't that strike you as a bit odd?
Come to think of it, what were HER grades?

 

[irishScott]

Has anyone considered that she didn't want to politically endorse a specific newspaper? Or maybe she uses *gasp* the internet and actually can at least get the headlines off all of the major newpapers?

Sheesh.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: QED
So you blooming idiots really believe Palin doesn't read newspapers? And doesn't know of any court cases she disagrees about when she wrote a dissenting editorial letter criticizing the Supreme Court's slowness in handling the Exonn case earlier this year?

Uh, do you have a link to the letter? Were you there when she wrote it? I suppose you think Bush writes all the White House statements too? Thankfully, no.

Anyone who continues to say nuke-u-lur isn't writing her own letters to the editor, IMHO.

You don't have a copy of her college English grades do you? I'd also love to see her Senior Thesis, assuming the University of North Dakota, Hoople Extension, Night Divison required them. Oh, erm, darn, that's right, she was wait listed....

-Robert

You don't have Obama's Harvard grades, either... do you? Makes you wonder why he's not released them.... hmm?

Ummm...just to be clear, you equate Palin's actions and abilities while Governor to what Obama's grades were when he was at Harvard? Doesn't that strike you as a bit odd?
Come to think of it, what were HER grades?

Robert had mentioned me not knowing what Palin's English grades were in college-- which is true-- but (I think) his point was that she probably had bad grades and therefore would be incapable of writing a letter slamming the delay of the courts in compensating victims of the Exxon oil tanker spill case.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: irishScott
Has anyone considered that she didn't want to politically endorse a specific newspaper? Or maybe she uses *gasp* the internet and actually can at least get the headlines off all of the major newpapers?

Sheesh.

No, no, no... it's FAR more likely that this woman simply doesn't read any newspaper, and furthermore, is so out of touch she doesn't even know the name of any newspapers to lie about reading. That's the only logical explanation.

:roll:

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: QED
No, no, no... it's FAR more likely that this woman simply doesn't read any newspaper, and furthermore, is so out of touch she doesn't even know the name of any newspapers to lie about reading. That's the only logical explanation.

:roll:

It's far more likely that she had yet another brain freeze on what should have been an easy question. No big deal, unless you're someone who makes a great virtue of snap decisions:

because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can?t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we?re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can?t blink. So I didn?t blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can?t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we?re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can?t blink. So I didn?t blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.

That actually makes sense. Not eloquent, but it makes sense.

 

[Veramocor]

What is the general political affiliation/points of view of the economist considered?

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can?t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we?re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can?t blink. So I didn?t blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.

That actually makes sense. Not eloquent, but it makes sense.

Snap decisions may be good from an informed person with a quick mind. The jury's still out on Governor Palin in this regard.

On the subject of Governor Palin's overall honesty, contrast her answer quoted above from the Charles Gibson interview, with this from the subsequent session with Sean Hannity:

It was a time of asking the girls to vote on it, anyway. And they voted unanimously, yes. Didn?t bother asking my son because, you know, he?s going to be off doing his thing anyway, so he wouldn?t be so impacted by, at least, the campaign period here.? Palin said, ?So ask the girls what they thought and they?re like, absolutely. Let?s do this, mom.

Did she "not blink" and immediately accept Senator McCain's offer, or did she have her family vote first?

edit: punctuation

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can?t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we?re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can?t blink. So I didn?t blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.

That actually makes sense. Not eloquent, but it makes sense.

Snap decisions may be good from an informed person with a quick mind. The jury's still out on Governor Palin in this regard.

On the subject of Governor Palin's overall honesty, contrast her answer quoted above from the Charles Gibson interview, with this from the subsequent session with Sean Hannity:

It was a time of asking the girls to vote on it, anyway. And they voted unanimously, yes. Didn?t bother asking my son because, you know, he?s going to be off doing his thing anyway, so he wouldn?t be so impacted by, at least, the campaign period here.? Palin said, ?So ask the girls what they thought and they?re like, absolutely. Let?s do this, mom.

Did she "not blink" and immediately accept Senator McCain's offer, or did she have her family vote first?

edit: punctuation

I don't interpret "didn't blink" as "immediately accepted without question". Just means she knew instantly that she wanted to accept. Then again, almost everything political is a matter of interpretation.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: QED
So you blooming idiots really believe Palin doesn't read newspapers? And doesn't know of any court cases she disagrees about when she wrote a dissenting editorial letter criticizing the Supreme Court's slowness in handling the Exonn case earlier this year?

Uh, do you have a link to the letter? Were you there when she wrote it? I suppose you think Bush writes all the White House statements too? Thankfully, no.

Anyone who continues to say nuke-u-lur isn't writing her own letters to the editor, IMHO.

You don't have a copy of her college English grades do you? I'd also love to see her Senior Thesis, assuming the University of North Dakota, Hoople Extension, Night Divison required them. Oh, erm, darn, that's right, she was wait listed....

-Robert

You don't have Obama's Harvard grades, either... do you? Makes you wonder why he's not released them.... hmm?

Releasing all those "A"s would make him look elitist and it would be perceived as idle bragging. But, you don't get elected President of the Harvard Law Review because you are a black Muslim commie symp cocaine using lump of Gentleman's "C"s. I went to law school. Law review is for the cream of the crop...always.

So, don't you feel really stupid making that comparison?

-Robert

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Atreus21
Okay, so it seems the main premise of this thread is that, because Palin isn't a democrat, she must be lying when she says she reads the NYT or the Economist.

That in itself is hilarious.

So what happens when a republican picks up the NYT? The paper bursts into flames and sears their eyes? "FIRE BAAAAD!"

Idiocy, fellas.

There you go lying again. I have no idea how you came up with that premise. BTW, I'm a Republican and I read them.