Palin defends the fatties

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Amused

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She's not a lawmaker or politician, how could she possibly make that guarantee?

Not only is she wife to the leader of her party AND the free world. She also could guarantee that HER campaign will never advocate for laws/taxes/limits and bans. She could promise to keep it at education.

But come on, you know she won't because she and her party have no intention of doing so.
 

dainthomas

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It took over 100 posts to get across the message that you're just now beginning to understand, and you want her to get that across in a sound bite?

You don't honestly believe Palin is that subtle do you? I'm certain she could have fit "I'm against junk food taxes" somewhere in her rant (if that was truly her point).

Myself, and the author of the column in the OP, are of the opinion that she's against the first lady saying people should eat right and exercise. If for no other reason than because Michelle Obama is an evil commie elitist liberal, and everything she says is wrong by default.
 

Amused

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You don't honestly believe Palin is that subtle do you? I'm certain she could have fit "I'm against junk food taxes" somewhere in her rant (if that was truly her point).

Myself, and the author of the column in the OP, are of the opinion that she's against the first lady saying people should eat right and exercise. If for no other reason than because Michelle Obama is an evil commie elitist liberal, and everything she says is wrong by default.

"And I know I'm going to be again criticized for bringing this up, but instead of a government thinking that they need to take over and make decisions for us according to some politician or politician's wife priorities, just leave us alone, get off our back and allow us as individuals to exercise our own God-given rights to make our own decisions and then our country gets back on the right track"

Now, were she simply talking about education, why would she say this???

Happy meal bans and fat taxes.

The author was a shill. His opinion is meaningless.
 

dainthomas

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Now, were she simply talking about education, why would she say this???

Happy meal bans and fat taxes.

The author was a shill. His opinion is meaningless.

Who knows why she says anything? If William Kristol or George Will were against junk food taxes, we wouldn't be debating whether they're actually against fitness and exercise, because they are actually concise and well-spoken.

I guess we'll never know, unless she ever gets around to "clarifying" her statement.
 

Amused

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Who knows why she says anything? If William Kristol or George Will were against junk food taxes, we wouldn't be debating whether they're actually against fitness and exercise, because they are actually concise and well-spoken.

I guess we'll never know, unless she ever gets around to "clarifying" her statement.

Because you're basing your entire judgment of her on a soundbite. A 2 second answer to a question. And now you're comparing that to writers??? Seriously?
 

dainthomas

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Because you're basing your entire judgment of her on a soundbite. A 2 second answer to a question. And now you're comparing that to writers??? Seriously?

How about this "I'm against the 'Let's Move' program because I believe it will lead to taxes on junk food". There's a less than two second sound bite that will get her assumed (nonsensical) point across. Simple, easy to remember, and I bet it would even fit on her hand.

Wow, I should be on her campaign staff!
 

werepossum

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How about this "I'm against the 'Let's Move' program because I believe it will lead to taxes on junk food". There's a less than two second sound bite that will get her assumed (nonsensical) point across. Simple, easy to remember, and I bet it would even fit on her hand.

Wow, I should be on her campaign staff!

It would fit on her hand IF that were the only thing there. At this point only TAXES BAD fits.
 

MrX8503

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Repeating the same bullsh!t doesn't make it any less bullsh!t or any more factual.

...And avoiding my question for the umpteenth time makes your argument BS. Which is why I repeated it.

An education/awareness program is not only there to inform people like you suggest. Even if this was the case, how is the "Lets Move" initiative a mandate? Do you have link to evidence?

You are trying to pass off two arguments simultaneously:

1. Initiatives causes mandates

...and if that doesn't satisfy your argument, you say...

2. Initiatives are unnecessary

Sorry, but that doesn't answer anything.

Bring the issue into the public conscience to call attention to those affected by it? Why is that necessary for obesity?

Because obesity in America is on the rise especially among kids, which is what this initiative is about.

Offer solutions/advice? Of what solutions/advice related to obesity are people presently unaware?

I'm not talking about the initiative, I'm saying if you don't think initiatives are a good idea, then what is?

1. It is a direct cause of mandates when the education/awareness leads the public to take corrective action via government.

That is called a correlation and correlation is not the direct result of causation. If you can grasp that then it'll solve a whole lotta problems for ya in making critical decisions.

It doesn't restrict me, but it is one reason among many for any future restrictions.

Then the initiative is not a mandate no matter how you feel about it.

I suggest we cancel education/awareness initiatives for things like obesity, alcohol, sex, and drugs/smoking. I can see rationales for education/awareness on other topics; topics/diseases/conditions for which we each are not anywhere near as directly responsible.

If you feel that way, then that's fine, but I would disagree.
 
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jrodson69

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The Palin hate I'm seeing in this forum is hilarious. Sheesh, she must be pretty damn good, or you wouldn't spend so much time obsessing over every quote she makes! :D

On "the fatties" -- well, duh. Government should not be the decider of what food/drink is on my kitchen table. It's a basic premise, not rocket science.
 

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...And avoiding my question for the umpteenth time makes your argument BS. Which is why I repeated it.

If you can't see that I didn't avoid your question then there's something far more serious than BS-spreading going on.. and for you it's not at all good.

An education/awareness program is not only there to inform people like you suggest. Even if this was the case, how is the "Lets Move" initiative a mandate? Do you have link to evidence?

What other reason is there for an education/awareness program about obesity? Obesity is on the rise in children? Again I'll say it... EVERYONE KNOWS THAT ALREADY.

No one said this education/awareness thing is a mandate, but we have demonstrated how such things usually lead to mandates.

Because obesity in America is on the rise especially among kids, which is what this initiative is about.

Obesity is on the rise in children? No sh!t, Sherlock. I don't know about you, but I certainly didn't need to hear about it in some initiative from the FLOTUS to realize it.. and I highly doubt a lot of other people are unaware of childhood obesity. The real problem is that people are apathetic about it.. and awareness/education is not a cure for that.

Apathy about something you're aware of already isn't going to be prevented by awareness/education. Why? BECAUSE YOU'RE AWARE OF IT ALREADY... it's not that hard of a concept to understand.

I'm not talking about the initiative, I'm saying if you don't think initiatives are a good idea, then what is?

The only good ideas for obesity and other problems related to our many vices are on an individual level. It's a good idea for parents to pay more attention to what their kids eat and to buy rollerblades or bicycles for their kids this Christmas (and make sure they use 'em) instead of a video game system or computer. It's a good idea for us to skip McDonalds and instead go to the supermarket. It's a good idea for us to park further away from the entrance so we (and our children) have to walk more. It's a good idea for us to take the stairs instead of the elevator. These are the good ideas that work. Parents and children know about rollerblades, the supermarket, and the stairway.. they just don't use them as often as they should. That's a matter of personal choice, which is not something an "education/awareness" initiative is going to change.

That is called a correlation and correlation is not the direct result of causation. If you can grasp that then it'll solve a whole lotta problems for ya in making critical decisions.

I know what correlation and causation are, but what I outlined in my post (go back and read what you didn't quote) is not correlation but a chain of events that all started with education/awareness.. and that demonstrates causation.

Then the initiative is not a mandate no matter how you feel about it.

Who said it was a mandate? Try to grasp this: we've been saying that it LEADS to mandates.

If you feel that way, then that's fine, but I would disagree.

Of course you would, because you apparently think government action is both beneficial and required in A LOT more areas of our lives than I do.
 

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"just leave us alone, get off our back and allow us as individuals to exercise our own God-given rights to make our own decisions and then our country gets back on the right track."

Didn't Palin's god classify fatties as gluttons and give them a special level in hell just for them? Sounds like her god is invading her own life too.
 

Amused

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"just leave us alone, get off our back and allow us as individuals to exercise our own God-given rights to make our own decisions and then our country gets back on the right track."

Didn't Palin's god classify fatties as gluttons and give them a special level in hell just for them? Sounds like her god is invading her own life too.

Um, her god also said judge not, lest ye be judged.
 

werepossum

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"just leave us alone, get off our back and allow us as individuals to exercise our own God-given rights to make our own decisions and then our country gets back on the right track."

Didn't Palin's god classify fatties as gluttons and give them a special level in hell just for them? Sounds like her god is invading her own life too.

I think you are confusing the Seven Deadly Sins with Christian dogma. Christianity does not posit levels of hell.

I share Zsdersw's distrust for "initiatives", which all too often become government mandates. I also find it amusing that the first lady is dragging around an ass the size of Manhattan whilst lecturing us on obesity. Physician, use thy Stairmaster.
 
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CitizenKain

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The Palin hate I'm seeing in this forum is hilarious. Sheesh, she must be pretty damn good, or you wouldn't spend so much time obsessing over every quote she makes! :D

On "the fatties" -- well, duh. Government should not be the decider of what food/drink is on my kitchen table. It's a basic premise, not rocket science.

Amazing how the Palin fans continue to prove just how stupid they are, thank you for posting.