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Pakistan and blasphemy

Kadarin

Kadarin

Lifer
As if we didn't already know how fucked up Pakistan is:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/13/pakistan.blasphemy.vigilantes/index.html?hpt=T2

From the article:

We found his daughter, four-year old Kazma who knew her father was dead but somehow felt he would come back. His wife was in tears, but remarkably maintained that the blasphemy laws were important as they protect the Muslim faith. It was hard to tell whether she believed that or was speaking out of self-preservation.
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This is just unbelievable. Pakistan is a fucked up country, and Islam is a fucked up religion that has no place in civilized society. The world would be a better place without both.

The Green Bean, would you care to comment?
 
Yeah, yeah, so what. Ignorant savages do savage things. We killed witches in the name of "civilization", they kill blasphemers.
 
wuliheron said:
Yeah, yeah, so what. Ignorant savages do savage things. We killed witches in the name of "civilization", they kill blasphemers.
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The problem is that it isn't just "a few ignorant people" doing this, it's the whole goddamned country. In a way, it's the whole goddamned religion of Islam.
 
Kadarin said:
The problem is that it isn't just "a few ignorant people" doing this, it's the whole goddamned country. In a way, it's the whole goddamned religion of Islam.
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Yeah, and we had millions of slaves who were routinely whipped and raped.

Its not the whole religion of Islam. Its a bunch of third world savages.
 
nonlnear said:
Is the irony intentional? If so, it's impressive.
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No irony. There is no room on our planet for religious fanatic retards who murder innocent people in the name of religion. That includes Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhist, etc. Not surprisingly, a huge percentage of them will be Muslims
 
dabuddha

So, another round of "manifest destiny"? Kill all of the ignorant savages? If a few remain, make them Christians so they can become properly civilized?

And you would do this how? Invade their lands and build forts from which you could easily attack them?
 
Yep. It sucks. And that's why Islam only has any real power in 3rd world shitholes (with the possible exception of Turkey, and even then only due to secularist reforms)
 
So why are we in pakistan? Why does the USA subsidies Muslim Murderers?

People kill people, not religion. It is the evil in men's Hearts that make them do bad things. Religion is just the excuse.
 
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wuliheron said:
Yeah, yeah, so what. Ignorant savages do savage things. We killed witches in the name of "civilization", they kill blasphemers.
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"killed" is the operative word. Stop comparing a tradition from 200 years ago to something occurring right now.
 
Kadarin said:
The problem is that it isn't just "a few ignorant people" doing this, it's the whole goddamned country. In a way, it's the whole goddamned religion of Islam.
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Yes, this is exactly how over 1 billion people behave including all the Muslims I know. They're great people to hang with once I get past the fact that they want to kill me. When they pass me the ball in soccer I know they're imagining it is a bomb they're kicking towards me. When we get lunch I know when I step away from the table they pretend they're poisoning my food. When they look on in horror at the actions of some zealots claiming the same faith as them I know they are merely copying the expressions on other's faces while secretly delighting in the death and mayhem. But hey, nobody's perfect.
 
piasabird said:
So why are we in pakistan? Why does the USA subsidies Muslim Murderers?

People kill people, not religion. It is the evil in men's Hearts that make them do bad things. Religion is just the excuse.
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Who knows, Obama promised to get out of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Three years in he's done nothing.
 
jackschmittusa said:
dabuddha

So, another round of "manifest destiny"? Kill all of the ignorant savages? If a few remain, make them Christians so they can become properly civilized?

And you would do this how? Invade their lands and build forts from which you could easily attack them?
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Who said anything about making them Christian 🙂 And who said it was feasible. Just saying it should be done. The world has no room for murderous ignorant savages.
 
The Muslims in this country seem to be "behaving." No sense in exterminating religious people in the name of tolerance. If people kill or threaten to kill each other, deal with it on an individual basis.
 
piasabird said:
So why are we in pakistan? Why does the USA subsidies Muslim Murderers?

People kill people, not religion. It is the evil in men's Hearts that make them do bad things. Religion is just the excuse.
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So we can more easily kill other Muslim Murderers, the ones who want to kill us. Duh!

I agree with Kadarin that the world would be better off without Islam, but I also suspect that Pakistan would still be a hellhole under Christianity, if less of one. Places like Malaysia and Indonesia manage to minimize the actual violence, and Turkey was fairly civilized until recent years anyway. Hopefully Islam will undergo a transformation as did Christianity to a less violent religion.
 
dabuddha

"The world has no room for murderous ignorant savages."

So, the only solution is to kill them? Really creative problem solving there.

It is a fact that Muslims in this country are almost entirely peaceful people. Why not endeavor to discover why and foster the replication of similar conditions elsewhere? Seems like the "civilized" thing to do.
 
This is just terrible it looks like Pakistan is getting more and more radical. The Taliban is starting to run that country. It seems that the billions in American and international aid are going to the terrorists over there since they are getting stronger.
I propose that in order to remember the victims of the blasphemy law in Pakistan we start a international shit on Mohamed grave day and post derogatory Mohamed videos on youtube. I will try to do mine this week, and e mail a link to it to Pakistan's embassy. ()🙂
 
dabuddha said:
Who said anything about making them Christian 🙂 And who said it was feasible. Just saying it should be done. The world has no room for murderous ignorant savages.
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Well I thank god that at least in one African country where there is Muslim and Christian power struggles, the Christians are hacking up and eating the Muslims.
 
jackschmittusa said:
dabuddha

"The world has no room for murderous ignorant savages."

So, the only solution is to kill them? Really creative problem solving there.

It is a fact that Muslims in this country are almost entirely peaceful people. Why not endeavor to discover why and foster the replication of similar conditions elsewhere? Seems like the "civilized" thing to do.
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In your world, you can try to "educate" and teach murderers to be good decent people. In my world, I'll just exterminate them. I wonder which world people would prefer to live in 🙂
 
jackschmittusa said:
It is a fact that Muslims in this country are almost entirely peaceful people. Why not endeavor to discover why and foster the replication of similar conditions elsewhere?
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It's because they don't have the numbers here in the US yet to impose their worthless cultural order on the rest of us. Not that they don't try...

http://articles.cnn.com/2007-01-25/...american-society-cab-drivers-cabbies?_s=PM:US

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/...-16-dies-after-hijab-dispute-with-father.aspx
 
dabuddha said:
No irony. There is no room on our planet for religious fanatic retards who murder innocent people in the name of religion. That includes Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhist, etc. Not surprisingly, a huge percentage of them will be Muslims
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So... exterminate them on the grounds that your beliefs are superior to theirs? If I've been trolled by a double dose of your irony, my hat is off to you good sir!
 
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