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ed21x

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: czech09
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Now that you've clarified that, I think your views on Ferarri not being a supercar company is a bit far fetched. I loved the Enzo and no matter what anyone says, the F430 is a supercar IMO.

If you think the F430 is a super car, you know nothing about cars.

A Ferrari salesman wouldn't even go as far to tell you it's a super car.

I have to laugh at that statement that is all. Just the fact that it's coming from a noob (and probably a 14yr old kid).

Noob at what? Because I registered at a later date, all the sudden I'm a "noob"?

I am in my twenties.

you make twenty year olds look bad.

Despite the Zonda, McLaren F1, and even the Saleen s7 eventually beating the Enzo in numbers, we must remember that it was the Enzo that set the gold standard by being among the first production car to go under 4 seconds, and held that esteemed position for 2-3 years. Of course other companies came out to beat it, but there was no denying that Enzo had a spot amongst the greatest of supercars for its era, albeit now that it is coming to an end, you are free to bash it. One thing that has always impressed me about any ferrari was the fact that not only could it pull the numbers, but that it could do it better, and with more finesse. It's really hard to put into words... heck even a Ford GTR can post such impressive numbers, but the Enzo, like any ferrari does things easily and smoothly... with a great deal of control and precision.

Due to growing up in Laguna Hills, I've had the opportunity to visit the Ferrari dealer that caters to the Newport people, and check out the interior quality and even had experience in a Maraleno, and the car handled impressively well, almost like a bmw at 45 mphs, except we were actually pushing 150. Amazing stuff.
 

hookinitup

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such passion...such vigour.

it seems the majority here are very proud and satisfied ferrari owners. count me in.
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: infestedgh0st
Originally posted by: RiDE

Oh brother, another Mr. I Know It All post. Car threads really are the worst around here. :roll:

because some people around here think they know cars but all they do is compare the hp #s and make a conclusion.

Bingo.

There's more to what makes a car great than horsepower and skidpad numbers.

BTW, I think the Veyron is obscene. Ridiculous.

And to the guy who said "If an outside company can tune your cars to go faster, you are not doing a very good job at maximizing performance.", every sports car manufacturer on the planet has had somebody tune their cars. WTF are you talking about.

And a Ferrari that puts out 1800hp is a ruined Ferrari if you ask me.






 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I don't think Ferrari is meant to be a super car company. They make sports cars They do not make extreme cars.

You cannot compare a Ferrari to say, a McLaren.

Ferrari is more for style than performance.


Ferrari is building the FXX which has a 6.3 liter V12 engine that produces 800 bhp. It will only be sold to selected clients.
 

TomKazansky

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Originally posted by: suse920
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
To JLGatsby:


wow. I really don't know what to write. Your responses are so wayward, so arrogant, so utterly ignorant that it seems that you are not an engineer at heart.

To know what a supercar is, you need not think like only an engineer, but also like a poet as well.

Supercars, at least in my humble and debatedly limited opinion, are about the unclassifiable. That spirit, that challenge, that style.


Lingenfelter died in what appeared to be a 600-800hp Cavalier. He was an exception. Such effort, and heart, and musscle was put into his machines that when they rolled off the line, they were the epitome of beauty, the epitome of musscle, and debately, the essence of a supercar. They were so ridiculous, so utterly insane, and yet so suave looking that they deserved to be ordained by no other name than Ligenfelters.


Ferrari is a very different animal, but similar. Ferrari is about passion. Ferrari is about over the top brilliance in an undeniably gorgeous package. Civility at 200mph is what I would call it. Riding on a fireball while still being able to drink tea or get a blowjob from your loving wife (watch out for the back end slipping right from under you during that one...;) I am talking about the rear axle mind you;) ) When you realize what they have done, how they constantly pushed the limits of style and substance never keeling over at one benchmark but heading head first in to all, you start to understand what they represent.

Dude, that ****** douche at the dealer is that, a fvking douche.

The essence of Ferrari are not something a saleman probably knows anything about. Perhaps the owner of the dealer or even perhaps, jsut maybe the buyer, but no one else in that establishment.


I could go on rambling about this and that, but I will try my best to sum it up quickly.


Ferrari, hell even the old Alfa's(the REALLY OLD ones:p), , Ford GT40s, Lambourgini's (originated because of a ferrari employee....), Lingenfelter's,and Pagani's are the definition of supercars.


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Of course these days Alfa's are rev limited to 80mph and meet your local Fuel emmissions requirement..:eek:
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All of these cars are beatable by 800hp Chevies, but shows why these remain the best of the very best.

Simple unaccompanied brute force or aunaccompanied artistic with leave anything else remaining sub-par

It is these cars that drove greats like Shelby to do what they did. This man, in a fvking barn mind you, unseated a legend all because he wanted to tune his own engine. These machines are the epitome of human creation. Creative aspects of all the fields are there for all to see and for all to wonder over.

Maybe this discussion is futile because it is a personal state of mind that allows for a such a definition, but to me a supercar is something that demonstrates longevity, pride, success, arrogance, determination, joy, love and, most importantly, pleasure.


Suck it all down bitch.:laugh:







^---I just couldn't stand back idly as he called my red heartthrobs by any other name besides their god given ones:eek:


:D

10/10

Thank you people for blasting JLGatsby for me. You guys deserve drinks from me.
:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

edit: We shoudl ban him from answering car threads from now on.
 

TomKazansky

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Now that you've clarified that, I think your views on Ferarri not being a supercar company is a bit far fetched. I loved the Enzo and no matter what anyone says, the F430 is a supercar IMO.

If you think the F430 is a super car, you know nothing about cars.

A Ferrari salesman wouldn't even go as far to tell you it's a super car.

You're lucky that this is not a car forum that you're posting on.