P4 Price drops sept. 1st- Confirm? (Sorry if repost)

[Cuda1447]

Hey, Im building my new rig, and Ive heard that the P4's prices will drop alot come Sept. 1st. So that would mean that I could get a 2.4 with 533 FSB for ~$220 -

Will this be happening for sure? Or should I just go ahead and buy a 1.8 right now and sell it later and get the 2.4 when it drops in price?

 

[Duvie]

It is a repost but no worries...stuff moves quickly and this may be news to some...

I don't know if intel has confirmed it, but these reports have usually been quite accurate and runs with the announcement to release 2.8ghz right at end of august...

Wait...

 

[Cuda1447]

Aight cool, Im keeping my fingers crossed. With this Ill be able to save alot of money and have a nice 2.4ghz with 533 FSB probably overclockable to about 2.7 with ease?

 

[BuddyAtBzboyz]

"Aight cool, Im keeping my fingers crossed. With this Ill be able to save alot of money and have a nice 2.4ghz with 533 FSB probably overclockable to about 2.7 with ease?"

Well you should be able to reach that speed with that chip, but why not just use a 1.8A, which should reach 2.7 and if not it will be close.

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: BuddyAtBzboyz
"Aight cool, Im keeping my fingers crossed. With this Ill be able to save alot of money and have a nice 2.4ghz with 533 FSB probably overclockable to about 2.7 with ease?"

Well you should be able to reach that speed with that chip, but why not just use a 1.8A, which should reach 2.7 and if not it will be close.

A 1.8 should hit 2.4 and maybe higher (I would guess 2.5-2.6), but you're far more likely to hit 2.7 with a 2.26B than a 2.8A.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: CrazySaint

Originally posted by: BuddyAtBzboyz
"Aight cool, Im keeping my fingers crossed. With this Ill be able to save alot of money and have a nice 2.4ghz with 533 FSB probably overclockable to about 2.7 with ease?"

Well you should be able to reach that speed with that chip, but why not just use a 1.8A, which should reach 2.7 and if not it will be close.

A 1.8 should hit 2.4 and maybe higher (I would guess 2.5-2.6), but you're far more likely to hit 2.7 with a 2.26B than a 2.8A.

Well won't the 533 FSB make a big difference in speed? And if a 1.8A can reach 2.7 or close, then a 2.4 could probably reach well beyond 3ghz yah?

 

[Soldat]

well when the price cuts come i hope to get a 2.26 for under $200 and oc it close to 3 ghz

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: CrazySaint

Originally posted by: BuddyAtBzboyz
"Aight cool, Im keeping my fingers crossed. With this Ill be able to save alot of money and have a nice 2.4ghz with 533 FSB probably overclockable to about 2.7 with ease?"

Well you should be able to reach that speed with that chip, but why not just use a 1.8A, which should reach 2.7 and if not it will be close.

A 1.8 should hit 2.4 and maybe higher (I would guess 2.5-2.6), but you're far more likely to hit 2.7 with a 2.26B than a 2.8A.

Well won't the 533 FSB make a big difference in speed? And if a 1.8A can reach 2.7 or close, then a 2.4 could probably reach well beyond 3ghz yah?

It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. Around 3GHz on a "B" series CPU is a good overclock. Also, if you're going to overclock, you should always try to get the lowest speed grade in a series (in this case 2.26B) because they all come off the same process and should have the same (or very close) top end for speed. Usually, they can overclock a bit past the fastest CPU in the series (currently 2.53B, but the 2.8B will be out soon), so right now 3GHz OCs aren't too uncommon, but don't expect to go too far past 3GHz yet. Having said that, expect the OC ceiling on the "B" series to increase over time as Intel fine tunes its process and releases faster CPUs.

 

[Cuda1447]

What exactly is the difference between the A and B series? Im a little in the dark about all this. But basically the way I understand it is that the higher end processors of a certain series just *cost* more because they are already in a way overclocked but come that way, and with the lower end of that series, if you overclock it you can reach about the same limit as the higher ends?

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
What exactly is the difference between the A and B series? Im a little in the dark about all this. But basically the way I understand it is that the higher end processors of a certain series just *cost* more because they are already in a way overclocked but come that way, and with the lower end of that series, if you overclock it you can reach about the same limit as the higher ends?

The difference is that the "A" series has a 400MHz FSB and the "B" series has a 533MHz FSB. You've got it slightly backwards about the higher end of the series being overclocked, actually the lower end of the series could be considered to be "underclocked" which is why they OC so high

 

[Cuda1447]

Sweet, thx.

 

[Akaz1976]

<-------also new so pardon the ignorance!

Isnt A & B P4 made on the same process? then higher quality sample is released at higher clock/fsb? like p3-700s that were essentiallly p3-933s underclocked to 100fsb

Thanx

Akaz

 

[BuddyAtBzboyz]

Well won't the 533 FSB make a big difference in speed? And if a 1.8A can reach 2.7 or close, then a 2.4 could probably reach well beyond 3ghz yah?

You won't get as good of an overclock on the 2.26 as on the 1.6A or the 1.8A as they are considered the best overclockers right now. Also they have more room to overclock since they have a lower fsb, you can get it overclocked more b4 you are limited by the ram. Well if you have real good ram you won't have to worry bout that anyways.

Isnt A & B P4 made on the same process?

You can actually do a pin mod to make the A's into B's. Apparently the only difference (besides the better yeild chips of course on the B's) is that one of the pins on the b is terminated. Or so I have been told.

 

[Mikki]

BuddyAtBzboyz, that's the second post I've seen you reference that mod, do you have a link or something to share with us? I'm sure a lot of people would love to have that information.

 

[CrazySaint]

Um, why mod it when you can just set the FSB at 533 and have an instant "B" chip?

 

[Mikki]

That's what I was thinking....

 

[SaintGeorge]

Anyone know what price the 1.8a is coming down to? Also it will take a while for retailers to bring their prices down as they don't like doing it much obviously, read somewhere it might take a couple of months for prices to hit intels specifications.

1.8a price prediction anyone?

Thanks, Mark

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: SaintGeorge
Anyone know what price the 1.8a is coming down to? Also it will take a while for retailers to bring their prices down as they don't like doing it much obviously, read somewhere it might take a couple of months for prices to hit intels specifications.

1.8a price prediction anyone?

Thanks, Mark

It might take a few weeks, but I don't much think its gonna take any few months. As for the 1.8A, I wouldn't expect its price to drop too much, since its already at the bottom. I think they're gonna drop to around $150, maybe a bit less.

 

[BuddyAtBzboyz]

Sorry bout not telling you more about the mod. I forget sometimes that I frequent more then one site Anyways here is one link to some info on such a mod:

http://www.community.tomshardware.c...d=comp_cpu&Number=419526&page=&view=&sb=&vc=1

I don't know if you need to register to see the page on toms site or not. If you do I'll just paste it for you so let me know.

And the reason to do it is for when you have a board with no fsb overclocking options. Which I know around here is rare since most of us already overclock. It is a way to get an overclock out of some generic computers. Catch is your board will have to be able to support the 533 fsb. Maybe not very useful but I still find it interesting.