p4 extreme?!

[stardust]

Penium 4 HT Extreme

I will pray this isn't a competition between AMD and Intel like the silly competition between nVidia and ATi. I thought the P4 800fsb C processors were the bump on the road squeezing the last bit of buyers for the 0.13micron Pentium 4 chips. Guess i was wrong, does this mean Prescott will be delayed??

 

[stardust]

Guess there has been another post about this, oh well...

I really hope the Prescott isn't being delayed like the nvidia's FX cards were after the introduction of the useless 8xAGP GF4ti cards.

 

[DivideBYZero]

LOL the Opteron ad on that page!

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: stardust
Guess there has been another post about this, oh well...

I really hope the Prescott isn't being delayed like the nvidia's FX cards were after the introduction of the useless 8xAGP GF4ti cards.

Prescott is not being delayed. It was already scheduled to arrive shortly behind the A64...This is Intel's way to steal the thunder of AMD's new chip.

IMO, it is quite calculating. they have seen the reviews and previews they know the A64 like its predecessor Bartons still get beaten soundly in multimedia apps, yet the A64 makes strides in gaming. As reports and even anand states the l3 cache will not improve video and most multimedia as most info set to cache is always knew and not needed again. The gain of the L3 cache looks to be targeted directly at gaming. Obviously to counteract A64's scores.

If they are able to pull this off and hold steady with the A64 is will be quite a coup....They would have been able to "squeeze" the last of the .13micron without needing the power of prescott to do it....

 

[DivideBYZero]

It's the 'power' of prescott that IS holding it back AFAIK.

A 103W TDP slated for the 3.6Ghz Prescott is more akin to a heater element than a CPU.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
It's the 'power' of prescott that IS holding it back AFAIK.

A 103W TDP slated for the 3.6Ghz Prescott is more akin to a heater element than a CPU.

You don't pay attention much do you??? Ths has been talked about awhile back with INtel stating there was infact stepping modifications done to deal with that. Don't expect 103watts!!!

Also as far as I know this prescott timeschedule was the same even before the rumored heat problems....

 

[DivideBYZero]

Link me D-man, link me.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
It's the 'power' of prescott that IS holding it back AFAIK.

A 103W TDP slated for the 3.6Ghz Prescott is more akin to a heater element than a CPU.

You don't pay attention much do you??? Ths has been talked about awhile back with INtel stating there was infact stepping modifications done to deal with that. Don't expect 103watts!!!

Also as far as I know this prescott timeschedule was the same even before the rumored heat problems....

Link before you leap, Duvie:

WED 17th

"There was another hotspot technology making the whisper rounds at IDF, it is called Prescott. Yeah, low blow, but a conversation with someone who would know told us that the numbers we hear about Prescott, 103w is on the low end of right, with 100-110w being enough to give SFF box engineers in Taiwan apoplectic fits. The power design spec of 88-103A at 1.35v is a lot of electrons flowing here and there."

 

[KenAF]

As someone else noted on RWT, extrapolating the performance improvement from the Xeon -> Xeon w/ 2Mb L3 and the P4 3.2 -> P4 3.2 w/ 2Mb L3 would give the Extreme Edition a SpecInt score of roughly 1450. Compare that to the 1400 score projected for the Opteron at 2.4Ghz.


http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opteron244&page=6
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opteron244&page=5

 

[Priit]

Wonder if the price is gonna be "Extreme", too ?

 

[edmundoab]

LOL, it will be an "Extreme" price definately

 

[sao123]

For some new details on P4 extreme...see my post in other thread...
here...

intel pentium 4 will have 2MB of L3 cache big blow for Athlon64 !!!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=1141548

 

[stardust]

1.35vcore??? hmmm

 

[edmundoab]

thats low voltage

 

[lookouthere]

Originally posted by: KenAF
As someone else noted on RWT, extrapolating the performance improvement from the Xeon -> Xeon w/ 2Mb L3 and the P4 3.2 -> P4 3.2 w/ 2Mb L3 would give the Extreme Edition a SpecInt score of roughly 1450. Compare that to the 1400 score projected for the Opteron at 2.4Ghz.


http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opteron244&page=6
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opteron244&page=5

it is not 2.4Ghz opteron. it is model 244 at 1.8ghz. so the 2.4ghz will be much and much better than the P4 E square

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: lookouthere

Originally posted by: KenAF
As someone else noted on RWT, extrapolating the performance improvement from the Xeon -> Xeon w/ 2Mb L3 and the P4 3.2 -> P4 3.2 w/ 2Mb L3 would give the Extreme Edition a SpecInt score of roughly 1450. Compare that to the 1400 score projected for the Opteron at 2.4Ghz.


http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opteron244&page=6
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opteron244&page=5[/Q

it is not 2.4Ghz opteron. it is model 244 at 1.8ghz. so the 2.4ghz will be much and much better than the P4 E square

heh ouch it says 1.8ghz right on the page... and if they really do easily oc to 2.4ghz.. intels extreme really not so extreme after all.. unless your bent on encoding mp3s as fast as possible

 

[KenAF]

The Athlon FX51 will debut at 2.2GHz, not 2.4GHz. You might be able to overclock it some, then then, the same is probably true of the P4 Extreme Edition (see the P4 3.7GHz thread).

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: lookouthere

Originally posted by: KenAF
As someone else noted on RWT, extrapolating the performance improvement from the Xeon -> Xeon w/ 2Mb L3 and the P4 3.2 -> P4 3.2 w/ 2Mb L3 would give the Extreme Edition a SpecInt score of roughly 1450. Compare that to the 1400 score projected for the Opteron at 2.4Ghz.


http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opteron244&page=6
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opteron244&page=5[/Q

it is not 2.4Ghz opteron. it is model 244 at 1.8ghz. so the 2.4ghz will be much and much better than the P4 E square

heh ouch it says 1.8ghz right on the page... and if they really do easily oc to 2.4ghz.. intels extreme really not so extreme after all.. unless your bent on encoding mp3s as fast as possible

NO!!! Haven't you been reading anything??? It will not help as much in streaming and multimedia apps. MP3 will not have a big benefit. read Aanad's response to the p4ee....

It will gain far mote in gaming then most multimedia apps, which is likely fine for intel as it stilll has large leads against the barton and even leads still against the athlon64/opterons....

remember the athlon 64 will be single channel memory with the FX likley being the socket change and dual channle memory controller like the opteron...