P4 630 and a 820

[JWade]

i got two systems i have been testing, one wiuth a 630 and one with an 820 (both are NOT overclocked)

i have jsut ran a few benchamrks, nothing all too intensive, and the 820 appears to be faster/better. I ran them after using both systems for various things, the 820 seems more responsive, quicker at opening stuff. I would have figured the 630 would have been.

Ram is the same on both, same iwth vid card, they haev different hard drives, but same speed and buffer (both are SATA). Now, WoW does play better also on the 820 system. Only going to have these two systems for a day longer then they are going out to the people that asked me to make them for them. Just figured i would share my experiance with them.

 

[LTC8K6]

You are surprised that a dual core chip is more responsive than a single core chip?

There is only a 200Mhz clock difference anyway.

 

[JWade]

well for general use i thought the 630 with the 2mb cache woudl be better, nothing i used (atleast i thought anyways) on them would take advantage of them being dual core. I may actually make a dual core rig for myself now.

 

[Insomniator]

For everyday stuff it would be very difficult to tell the difference between a P4 2.0 and a P4 3.0, although
the benchmarks would suggest otherwise. Hell a P3 opens office apps just as fast as any other processor.

 

[ANTIHacker]

JWade
Pentium D 820 isn't good CPU:
1) High temperature.
2) Low speed.
Intel Core will be better than Dxxx, A64 (s939) and the more so P4 630.

 

[JWade]

i myself use a 3400+ amd chip, i like it alot. It performs quite well for me, i didnt comment on it because i was just comparing how the two intel chips seem to me in for the most part identical boxes. (one person just wanted a dual core so thats what i built for them).

I am just not judging the dual core off of the few benchmarks i ran but me running stuff on it myself (had to do updates to both computers after i loaded them, and otehr software). I also with the photo software did some editing and timed them as well as some file conversions as well.

What it actually made me want to do is switch over to AMD dual core more so now.

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Hell a P3 opens office apps just as fast as any other processor.

I strongly disagree.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: lopri

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Hell a P3 opens office apps just as fast as any other processor.

I strongly disagree.

Nah, most P3's are bogged down by ancient harddrives and lower memory. I had a Tualatin Celeron @ 1.4Ghz overclocked with 1GB memory and a 10K Atlas IV. I barely noticed a difference going to a powerhouse Dothan 2.4Ghz or a 3Ghz HT P4.

 

[LTC8K6]

Intel Core

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant Conroe.

The D820 is great for it's price.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6

Intel Core

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant Conroe.

The D820 is great for it's price.

It was great at heating my bedroom in the winter..in most things it was slower than my single core P4's, while running way warmer, it did ok in SMP aware apps, but not any where near as well as my X2, and couldn't overclock for crap.

 

[LTC8K6]

I'm well aware of your adventures with 820's.

The OP's results should be considered as well.

A few examples rarely tell the whole story.

 

[phaxmohdem]

Just My .02, I"ve recently had the pleasure of using an Intel Penium D 940 system w/ 2GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD, and that thing is quite capable. As far as opening apps, and general overall system "feel" I'd say it is comparable to my Athlon FX-51 @ home. It really doesn't heat up the room any more than the FX either.

But at the end of the day I"ll take the X2 (Until we figure out what conroe is all aboot)

 

[pcoffman]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6

Intel Core

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant Conroe.

Intel christened their new microarchitecture (to arrive Q3) Core at the last IDF. He probably was talking about Conroe. The Core microarchitecture is not to be confused with Core Duo or Core Solo, which are before the new architecture. Confusing, I know.

 

[pcoffman]

Originally posted by: JWade
the 820 seems more responsive

This is the part that I find the most interesting about your comparison, because it is the part most difficult to measure with benchmarks.

When the 820 came out, it posted better scores on most benchmarks than the 600 series. So that part of your experience surprises me less.

Problem wuz, AMD shortly came out with a chip that beat the 800 series.

 

[Markfw]

Well, my 820 lags badly compared to my X2's. In many things, even my single core A64's seem better.

 

[JWade]

again, i was just comparing the 820 and 630 i had built. To me my 3400+ is better, bu thena gain i have a better video card in it also and better HDs.

 

[lopri]

Some people say P4 is more responsive due to HyperThreading, and some peopl say A64 is more responsive thanks to on-die memory controller. So here is the happy medium:

1. When machine runs relatively few apps (like some background apps and 1~2 main apps), A64 feels more responsive.
2. When you have more than 1 CPU extensive apps (typical example - PDF), P4 feels smoother.


(Just pulled out of my @ss)

 

[JWade]

well that may make sense, one of the things i did do was open multiple PDF files at the same time. (them being 4mb in size or larger) I dont have themachines anymore, and didnt do a side by side comparision with my 3400+.

like i said, it just makes me want to go dual core AMD even more now.