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Thebobo

Lifer
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Here is a summary of Trump's policy positions:

IMMIGRATION
1. Build a wall, deport all undocumented immigrants.

2. Deport all undocumented immigrants but bring the 'good' ones back legally.

3. Build the wall, deport criminals, triple the number of ICE officers, end birthright citizenship.

4. Use a deportation force to implement policy.

5. Trump might be flexible on actually deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants.

6. Deport undocumented immigrants, but don't call it "mass deportations."

7. A deportation force is "TBD."

8. "I'm gonna do the same" as past presidents.

9. I'm open to "softening."

10 "There's no amnesty" but "we work with them."

11. Deport "criminal illegal immigrants" within one hour of being sworn in.

12. What's the plan again?

13. A deportation force is not currently being discussed.

14. The plan — whatever the plan is — has never changed.

15. Deport all undocumented immigrants in due time, using a deportation force.

16. Don't worry, hardliners. There's no amnesty and Mexico will pay!

17. But "there's really quite a bit of softening."

18. I won't rule out a path to citizenship.

YOUNG UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

1. Dreamers can maybe stay.

2. Nope, they can't stay.

3. End birthright citizenship.

4. "American children" also deserve dreams.

PROPOSED MUSLIM BAN

1. No Muslims should be allowed to enter the United States —as immigrants or visitors.

2. Ban Muslims from entering but make an exception for friends and Muslims serving in the US military.

3. The Muslim ban was just an suggestion.

4. Ban Muslims as a matter of policy, as well as people from countries with a history of terrorism.

5. Ban people from countries with a history of terrorism.

6. Ban Muslims from countries with a history of terrorism, and potentially also other Muslims.

7. The Muslim ban was never about Muslims.

The next week, one spokesperson wrongly said the initial ban was not about Muslims.

8. Nothing has changed, nothing to see here.

9. The ban is negotiable.

10. The ban would call for "extreme vetting."

11. The ban hasn't changed, I just don't like saying the word "Muslim."

12. There's a ban, plus "extreme vetting" that includes an ideological test.

DEFEATING ISIS

1. Maybe send troops in. Definitely go after the oil fields.

2. Bomb the oil fields. Send some troops in.

3. Send troops to defeat ISIS. Don't forget about the oil fields.

4. I've got this! I know more than the generals.

5. Destroy the oil. Let our regional allies send ground troops.

6. Declare war, send in some troops.

7. I'm going to ask the generals.

MINIMUM WAGE

1. Against raising the minimum wage. Jobs would move to China.

2. Wages should be raised through economic growth.

3. Raise the minimum wage.

4. Get rid of the federal minimum wage, leave it to the states.

5. I want to increase it!

6. States should change it, but it will hurt them.

7. Let's make it $10 dollars an hour.

8. It should go up, but states should call the shots here

Current position: Raise it to $10 an hour, ignore what I said before.

TAXES

1. The wealthy should pay more.

2. Cut taxes for the wealthy big time.

3. People like me should pay more.

4. I never said that! Cut everyone's taxes!

5. Maybe don't slash taxes by $10 trillion — slash taxes by $3 trillion, instead.

6. Scrap the earlier plan entirely. Here are new tax brackets

VOTING FOR THE IRAQ WAR

1. Clinton voted for the war, so she has bad judgment.

Trump slammed Clinton in late June for her vote authorizing the invasion of Iraq.

2. It doesn’t matter, people make mistakes

GUNS

1. Get rid of gun-free zones

2. No guns in classrooms, except maybe some guns in classrooms.

3. I'm not advocating for guns in classrooms, but wait, yes I am.

4. Let's put trained gunmen in schools.

5. We should only get rid of some gun-free zones.

6. More guns would save lives.

7. I didn't actually mean arming clubgoers.

2011 INTERVENTION IN LIBYA

1. The intervention in Libya by the U.S.-led coalition was a terrible idea.

2. I've never offered a different opinion on Libya.

3. I guess I did support an intervention.

4. I wanted a surgical intervention, not a "strong" intervention.

JAPAN AND NUKES

1. Japan should have nuclear weapons.

2. I never said that!

CLIMATE CHANGE

1. I don't believe in it.

2. Global warming is threatening one of my golf courses.

NATIONAL DEBT

1. Get rid of the national debt in 8 years.

2. Only pay down a little. Invest in infrastructure first.

3. Pay off the debt by getting America's creditors to accept less.

4. Don't worry about it — the U.S. can't default because we "print the money."

5. I won't try to renegotiate the national debt.

6. Take out new loans and pay back debt with new debt.

ABORTION

1. Criminalize women who have abortions.

2. Let the states decide what to do about criminalizing abortion.

3. Never mind. Don't punish the women

MONEY IN POLITICS

1. Accepting donations means a candidate is controlled by special interests.

2. People can donate to me as long as they don't want anything in return.

3. The Trump campaign will not fully self-fund.

VIOLATING U.S. AND INTERNATIONAL LAWS WITH REGARD TO TORTURE, TERRORISM

1. The military will obey potentially illegal orders.

2. The military shouldn't break the law, after all.

3. The laws forbidding torture should be changed so no one has to break them.

VISAS FOR HIGH-SKILLED WORKERS

1. H-1B visas are bad for American workers.

2. H-1B visas are good.

3. H-1B visas are still bad, according to Trump's unchanged website.

4. H-1B visas are necessary: 'I'm changing.'

5. H-1B visas are definitely bad.

BORDER CONTROL AND THE REFUGEE CRISIS

1. The U.S. has a 'humanitarian' obligation to take in some Syrian refugees.

2. The U.S. cannot and should not accept Syrian refugees.

3. Close the border.

4. Don't close the border, just be careful.

KU KLUX KLAN AND DAVID DUKE

1. 'I disavow, OK?'

2. 'I don't know anything about David Duke. OK?'

3. 'I disavow, OK?' — part two.

THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL

1. Keep the current deal with Iran, police it.

2. Renegotiate the nuclear deal with Iran.

HEALTH CARE

1. Repeal Obamacare. Look to Canada for inspiration.

2. Repeal Obamacare. Cover everybody.

3. Repeal Obamacare, but 'I like the mandate'

4. Repeal Obamacare. Replace it with something..

5. Repeal Obamacare. Not everyone will be covered.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Here is a summary of Trump's policy positions:

IMMIGRATION
1. Build a wall, deport all undocumented immigrants.

2. Deport all undocumented immigrants but bring the 'good' ones back legally.

3. Build the wall, deport criminals, triple the number of ICE officers, end birthright citizenship.

4. Use a deportation force to implement policy.

5. Trump might be flexible on actually deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants.

6. Deport undocumented immigrants, but don't call it "mass deportations."

7. A deportation force is "TBD."

8. "I'm gonna do the same" as past presidents.

9. I'm open to "softening."

10 "There's no amnesty" but "we work with them."

11. Deport "criminal illegal immigrants" within one hour of being sworn in.

12. What's the plan again?

13. A deportation force is not currently being discussed.

14. The plan — whatever the plan is — has never changed.

15. Deport all undocumented immigrants in due time, using a deportation force.

16. Don't worry, hardliners. There's no amnesty and Mexico will pay!

17. But "there's really quite a bit of softening."

18. I won't rule out a path to citizenship.

YOUNG UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

1. Dreamers can maybe stay.

2. Nope, they can't stay.

3. End birthright citizenship.

4. "American children" also deserve dreams.

PROPOSED MUSLIM BAN

1. No Muslims should be allowed to enter the United States —as immigrants or visitors.

2. Ban Muslims from entering but make an exception for friends and Muslims serving in the US military.

3. The Muslim ban was just an suggestion.

4. Ban Muslims as a matter of policy, as well as people from countries with a history of terrorism.

5. Ban people from countries with a history of terrorism.

6. Ban Muslims from countries with a history of terrorism, and potentially also other Muslims.

7. The Muslim ban was never about Muslims.

The next week, one spokesperson wrongly said the initial ban was not about Muslims.

8. Nothing has changed, nothing to see here.

9. The ban is negotiable.

10. The ban would call for "extreme vetting."

11. The ban hasn't changed, I just don't like saying the word "Muslim."

12. There's a ban, plus "extreme vetting" that includes an ideological test.

DEFEATING ISIS

1. Maybe send troops in. Definitely go after the oil fields.

2. Bomb the oil fields. Send some troops in.

3. Send troops to defeat ISIS. Don't forget about the oil fields.

4. I've got this! I know more than the generals.

5. Destroy the oil. Let our regional allies send ground troops.

6. Declare war, send in some troops.

7. I'm going to ask the generals.

MINIMUM WAGE

1. Against raising the minimum wage. Jobs would move to China.

2. Wages should be raised through economic growth.

3. Raise the minimum wage.

4. Get rid of the federal minimum wage, leave it to the states.

5. I want to increase it!

6. States should change it, but it will hurt them.

7. Let's make it $10 dollars an hour.

8. It should go up, but states should call the shots here

Current position: Raise it to $10 an hour, ignore what I said before.

TAXES

1. The wealthy should pay more.

2. Cut taxes for the wealthy big time.

3. People like me should pay more.

4. I never said that! Cut everyone's taxes!

5. Maybe don't slash taxes by $10 trillion — slash taxes by $3 trillion, instead.

6. Scrap the earlier plan entirely. Here are new tax brackets

VOTING FOR THE IRAQ WAR

1. Clinton voted for the war, so she has bad judgment.

Trump slammed Clinton in late June for her vote authorizing the invasion of Iraq.

2. It doesn’t matter, people make mistakes

GUNS

1. Get rid of gun-free zones

2. No guns in classrooms, except maybe some guns in classrooms.

3. I'm not advocating for guns in classrooms, but wait, yes I am.

4. Let's put trained gunmen in schools.

5. We should only get rid of some gun-free zones.

6. More guns would save lives.

7. I didn't actually mean arming clubgoers.

2011 INTERVENTION IN LIBYA

1. The intervention in Libya by the U.S.-led coalition was a terrible idea.

2. I've never offered a different opinion on Libya.

3. I guess I did support an intervention.

4. I wanted a surgical intervention, not a "strong" intervention.

JAPAN AND NUKES

1. Japan should have nuclear weapons.

2. I never said that!

CLIMATE CHANGE

1. I don't believe in it.

2. Global warming is threatening one of my golf courses.

NATIONAL DEBT

1. Get rid of the national debt in 8 years.

2. Only pay down a little. Invest in infrastructure first.

3. Pay off the debt by getting America's creditors to accept less.

4. Don't worry about it — the U.S. can't default because we "print the money."

5. I won't try to renegotiate the national debt.

6. Take out new loans and pay back debt with new debt.

ABORTION

1. Criminalize women who have abortions.

2. Let the states decide what to do about criminalizing abortion.

3. Never mind. Don't punish the women

MONEY IN POLITICS

1. Accepting donations means a candidate is controlled by special interests.

2. People can donate to me as long as they don't want anything in return.

3. The Trump campaign will not fully self-fund.

VIOLATING U.S. AND INTERNATIONAL LAWS WITH REGARD TO TORTURE, TERRORISM

1. The military will obey potentially illegal orders.

2. The military shouldn't break the law, after all.

3. The laws forbidding torture should be changed so no one has to break them.

VISAS FOR HIGH-SKILLED WORKERS

1. H-1B visas are bad for American workers.

2. H-1B visas are good.

3. H-1B visas are still bad, according to Trump's unchanged website.

4. H-1B visas are necessary: 'I'm changing.'

5. H-1B visas are definitely bad.

BORDER CONTROL AND THE REFUGEE CRISIS

1. The U.S. has a 'humanitarian' obligation to take in some Syrian refugees.

2. The U.S. cannot and should not accept Syrian refugees.

3. Close the border.

4. Don't close the border, just be careful.

KU KLUX KLAN AND DAVID DUKE

1. 'I disavow, OK?'

2. 'I don't know anything about David Duke. OK?'

3. 'I disavow, OK?' — part two.

THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL

1. Keep the current deal with Iran, police it.

2. Renegotiate the nuclear deal with Iran.

HEALTH CARE

1. Repeal Obamacare. Look to Canada for inspiration.

2. Repeal Obamacare. Cover everybody.

3. Repeal Obamacare, but 'I like the mandate'

4. Repeal Obamacare. Replace it with something..

5. Repeal Obamacare. Not everyone will be covered.

Well that certainly cleared things up.
 

leper84

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Dec 29, 2011
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Whitey the Alt-Right Racist Frog makes another appearance in the leper's post. Surprise surprise...

So is it more crazy that Hillary is fighting a cartoon frog, or the fact that she's losing?

Maybe she should pay more attention to important things like standing up, moving under her own power and not transmitting infectious diseases to children.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
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So is it more crazy that Hillary is fighting a cartoon frog, or the fact that she's losing?

Maybe she should pay more attention to important things like standing up, moving under her own power and not transmitting infectious diseases to children.
What is crazy is that you're allowed to walk around in public without supervision.
 

DrDoug

Diamond Member
Jan 16, 2014
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So is it more crazy that Hillary is fighting a cartoon frog, or the fact that she's losing?

Maybe she should pay more attention to important things like standing up, moving under her own power and not transmitting infectious diseases to children.

No, because she isn't fighting some froggy racist cartoon character, nor is she losing. I would point out exactly what is crazy but racists are really into denial. If you want to embrace racist memes then please proceed... just expect that people like myself are going to point and laugh at your pitiful asses.

mmmm'kay?
 

Dr. Zaus

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Oct 16, 2008
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Really.

He's showcasing the Confederate Flag which the lilberals keep saying is NOT a symbol of America. Putting that flag on shorts and car stickers should not upset the sensitive P.C. people.
Oh I GET IT!

So like, a nazi flag also doesn't discount your ability to support the american flag; because it's not a symbol of the US.

makes sense to me!
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Its disgusting, but not illogical.

ANYONE can make an argument that you should respect your nations official flag. Just because something is ugly doesnt mean its stupid.

Look at Steve Hawking!

:)
 
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Really.

He's showcasing the Confederate Flag which the lilberals keep saying is NOT a symbol of America. Putting that flag on shorts and car stickers should not upset the sensitive P.C. people.

Seems to me that showing/glorifying the flag of the failed slavers' rebellion is about as big a slap at the American flag and what it's supposed to represent as you can give. But hey, I'm a Canadian so what do I know.

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KMFJD

Lifer
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Whitey the Alt-Right Racist Frog makes another appearance in the leper's post. Surprise surprise...

that's a thing now? how tf did they turn pepe into 'the racist frog'? actually nvm, i don't care, smh