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mikeymikec

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Nice false equivalence there... private e-mail server, versus talking to a hostile foreign power off the record and then lying about it on the record (not to mention that whole Turkey fiasco, which I'm sure is part of the reason for the sword hanging over his head). Not to mention that people in the Trump administration have also been criticised for using private e-mail services for state-related work.

Admittedly my knowledge of American law and politics isn't something I hold with confidence, but in both cases there was a Republican controlled senate and congress, and Hillary's e-mail situation warranted two investigations through those political channels (plus the FBI investigation?), and still nothing. If you have a problem with Hillary not being arrested, shouldn't you be asking your fellow Republicans some pointed questions? Or is this when you start grumbling incoherently about the "deep state" or some such bollocks?

- edit - I'm having difficulty finding a credible source stating that Hillary lied to the FBI, all I've find is Comey stating that he believes she has not lied. Could you help me out with this one?
 
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ch33zw1z

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Nice false equivalence there... private e-mail server, versus talking to a hostile foreign power off the record and then lying about it on the record (not to mention that whole Turkey fiasco, which I'm sure is part of the reason for the sword hanging over his head). Not to mention that people in the Trump administration have also been criticised for using private e-mail services for state-related work.

Admittedly my knowledge of American law and politics isn't something I hold with confidence, but in both cases there was a Republican controlled senate and congress, and Hillary's e-mail situation warranted two investigations through those political channels (plus the FBI investigation?), and still nothing. If you have a problem with Hillary not being arrested, shouldn't you be asking your fellow Republicans some pointed questions? Or is this when you start grumbling incoherently about the "deep state" or some such bollocks?

- edit - I'm having difficulty finding a credible source stating that Hillary lied to the FBI, all I've find is Comey stating that he believes she has not lied. Could you help me out with this one?
its seriously wont matter whatever you find...too far gone.
 

brycejones

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- edit - I'm having difficulty finding a credible source stating that Hillary lied to the FBI, all I've find is Comey stating that he believes she has not lied. Could you help me out with this one?

Hillary Derangement Syndrome is the answer you are looking for.
 
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Commodus

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It's funny how the right-wing Facebook camp's narrative has changed from "Trump's campaign and administration did nothing wrong!" to "waaaah, it's so unfair that Trump's house of criminals is facing justice."

This isn't to let Clinton completely off the hook, but if you actually believe in justice, you should be happy that Flynn, Manafort and others are likely to face prison time.
 
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trenchfoot

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It's funny how the right-wing Facebook camp's narrative has changed from "Trump's campaign and administration did nothing wrong!" to "waaaah, it's so unfair that Trump's house of criminals is facing justice."

This isn't to let Clinton completely off the hook, but if you actually believe in justice, you should be happy that Flynn, Manafort and others are likely to face prison time.

From the looking glass of Trump's chumps, Flynn, Manafort and whoever else from the Trump crime family hits the slammer, they're all martyrs. They are the price to pay to MAGA. They are the symbols of freedom, of patriots making the necessary sacrifices so that the establishment can be defeated and thus a new America will rise from the rubble. A nation where order is restored, where corporations aren't shackled by the communists in our ranks, where Christ is the head of state and Trump is the new messenger that speaks in His behalf.

That's the special kind of madness that Trump stirred up in those who were waiting for a sign for them to rise up and take back what got taken from them. He brought out the worst of what our nation has to offer in the way of hatred, fear, bigotry and isolationism in order to "get the win".

That's Trump in a nutshell. His supporters like him just the way he is. Let me repeat that for effect. His supporters like him just the way he is. The rest of the whole world besides Putin thinks the guy is, like someone here said, "A few fries short of a Happy Meal". And he's getting worse.

And his supporters are cheering him on. That's the kind of folks through Trump that are now in total control of the nation. And the GOP, not ones to let an opportunity like this slip through their claws, they're out to create that theocratic tinged oligarchy that they've been having wet dreams over since Reagan let the dogs loose and gave them the scent of wealth and power that's driving them wild.

And the world is watching with awe and wonderment that such lunacy could actually overcome as powerful a nation that we once were.
 

Jhhnn

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It's funny how the right-wing Facebook camp's narrative has changed from "Trump's campaign and administration did nothing wrong!" to "waaaah, it's so unfair that Trump's house of criminals is facing justice."

This isn't to let Clinton completely off the hook, but if you actually believe in justice, you should be happy that Flynn, Manafort and others are likely to face prison time.

Please. Don't entertain false equivalency because of Hillary hate. Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI. Hillary wasn't even charged. Go figure.
 

Jhhnn

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That's the special kind of madness that Trump stirred up in those who were waiting for a sign for them to rise up and take back what got taken from them.

They're right that something has been taken from us. They just fail to properly identify the takers, the winners in top down class warfare waged successfully for nearly 40 years.
 

Commodus

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Please. Don't entertain false equivalency because of Hillary hate. Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI. Hillary wasn't even charged. Go figure.

Not trying to -- I know OH is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, I'm just acknowledging the molehill. H, however, isn't even acknowledging the mountain!