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shortylickens

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how did he get a social security number?

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why did the marines take in a man without a social security number?
 

uallas5

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how did he get a social security number?

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why did the marines take in a man without a social security number?

Unknown to most people, but you don't have to be an American citizen to serve in it's military

edit: He either was a green card recipient or the recruiter made a mistake, but my original point still stands.
 
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senseamp

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how did he get a social security number?

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why did the marines take in a man without a social security number?

More importantly, why did he want to fight and risk his life for a country that wants to deport him, when the people who wanted to deport him used every excuse in the book to get out of fighting for their country?
 

shortylickens

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Unknown to most people, but you don't have to be an American citizen to serve in it's military

I was in the US military.

You need a fucking social or immigrant number to get in.

Oh wait, I forgot to add that part.


HOW DID HE GET IN IF HE DIDNT HAVE AN IMMIGRATION NUMBER?


Ok, good.
 

senseamp

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I was in the US military.

You need a fucking social or immigrant number to get in.

Oh wait, I forgot to add that part.


HOW DID HE GET IN IF HE DIDNT HAVE AN IMMIGRATION NUMBER?


Ok, good.

When you need cannon fodder to justify transferring trillions of dollars to defense contractors, you can't be too choosy.
 

KMFJD

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how did he get a social security number?

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why did the marines take in a man without a social security number?
Born in Guatemala, Gutierrez held permanent U.S. resident status, which he obtained in 1999.

At 14, with his parents dead, Gutierrez followed the path of 700,000 of his countrymen to California. He made the 2,000-mile journey from his Guatemala City neighborhood without entry papers. He hopped 14 freight trains to get through Mexico. U.S. immigration authorities detained him.

Fernando Castillo, Guatemala’s consul general in Los Angeles, says the United States doesn’t deport Guatemalan minors who arrive without family. Gutierrez was made a ward of Los Angeles Juvenile Court. He was placed in a series of group homes and foster families. He learned English and finished high school.

When he reached 18, he got residency documents, Castillo said.

http://thefallen.militarytimes.com/marine-lance-cpl-jose-gutierrez/256506