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Lifer
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Yeah, I guess what I meant was "Social democracy", socialism without democracy is also a a turd of a system.


Yeah, though my doubts about social democracy are about how stable it actually is. The real-world examples raise questions regarding that, for me.

Had that debate over-and-over-again with people I know in real life, though.
 

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Lifer
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Yeah, though my doubts about social democracy are about how stable it actually is. The real-world examples raise questions regarding that, for me.

Had that debate over-and-over-again with people I know in real life, though.
Which ruling form is stable, while also providing freedom and wealth for its population?

The reason why social democracy has a high chance of working, is that you'll get a large content middle class.

But as some conservatives say, you have to reform to conserve. So you need to keep a tight economic budget an a growing economy at the same time.
 

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Given he's a secret stealing/selling insurrectionist who doesn't give a loaded diaper for civilians, enlisted, allies or spies, I wouldn't blame our friends at all for going mum for the next 4 years.

Want to earn some trust dipshit? Release the un edited transcript of your Helsinki meeting with Putin.
 
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Lifer
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Given he's a secret stealing/selling insurrectionist who doesn't give a loaded diaper for civilians, enlisted, allies or spies, I wouldn't blame our friends at all for going mum for the next 4 years.

Want to earn some trust dipshit? Release the un edited transcript of your Helsinki meeting with Putin.

Welcome him with open arms and feed him bullshit for as long as it takes until his usual buyers realise it. Gather evidence in the hope that if America has a non-GQP president at any time soon, then Trump can be prosecuted with fresh evidence.
 
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