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ElFenix

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...he was also...not that great of a general. His "overwhelming force and kill until they surrender" isn't really a brilliant strategy, it was just desperate.
grant's reputation as a military commander has been improving by leaps and bounds since the 50s. this seems like a take from the 1920s.
 

zinfamous

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grant's reputation as a military commander has been improving by leaps and bounds since the 50s. this seems like a take from the 1920s.

well, I guess one way to look at it is that at least he won a war. The US (not alone....but come on, mostly the Soviets) hasn't done that since 1945. ...that's what you're saying, right? :D
 

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well, I guess one way to look at it is that at least he won a war. The US (not alone....but come on, mostly the Soviets) hasn't done that since 1945. ...that's what you're saying, right? :D
we defeated the japanese almost single handedly. sure, the soviets declaring was the straw that broke the camel's back, but it's not like there was any real fighting between the two.

but, no, really, read something a bit more modern.
 

zinfamous

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we defeated the japanese almost single handedly. sure, the soviets declaring was the straw that broke the camel's back, but it's not like there was any real fighting between the two.

but, no, really, read something a bit more modern.

never would have been possible without the Soviets in Europe. Hitler would not have been defeated by the Brits and the US. That commitment is what allowed the US to operate in both theaters.
 

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Jhhnn

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Deplorable’s are so easily duped.
From a deplorable acquaintance

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FL number appears to be sometime last week and I have no fucking clue where the FL cases number came from
NY death number appears to be at some future date that hasn’t occurred yet.
 

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Perknose

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John Birchers would never have it.
@hal2kilo , @shortylickens , @MtnMan , @Fanatical Meat : The next time one of your clowns can't follow our SIMPLE RULE of NO personal commentary in this MEME thread I'm going to have to infract each and every one of you. And for some of you (I'm looking at YOU, shorty) this will trigger a LONG automatic vacation.

Post advisedly.

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