Uneducated baffoon.
First off, the ozone hole has nothing to do with global warming. The ozone hole lets in more cancer causing rays from the sun which are normally stopped in the ozone layer. global warming is caused by the greenhouse effect which is a natural phenomenon that is being increased do to pollution.
This is the type of uneducated drivel that people spout to try to prove that science is wrong and that their theory is correct.
The ozone hole is closing because humans have taken the neccessary steps to fix the problem. IN the 80's i believe, the international community signed a treaty banning the use of CFCs (stuff in aerosol cans, fridges, plastics,......) that severely destroyed the ozone. The ban has been effective and the ozone is repairing itself.
First off, the ozone hole has nothing to do with global warming. The ozone hole lets in more cancer causing rays from the sun which are normally stopped in the ozone layer. global warming is caused by the greenhouse effect which is a natural phenomenon that is being increased do to pollution.
This is the type of uneducated drivel that people spout to try to prove that science is wrong and that their theory is correct.
The ozone hole is closing because humans have taken the neccessary steps to fix the problem. IN the 80's i believe, the international community signed a treaty banning the use of CFCs (stuff in aerosol cans, fridges, plastics,......) that severely destroyed the ozone. The ban has been effective and the ozone is repairing itself.
Originally posted by: CPA
What's even more stupid, are people who think that measly humans can make a tiny change over a very, very short time frame and drastically effect the world.
is that supposed to be sarcasm or are you actually serious?
No offense, but do you understand what "collapse of the food-chain" really means? Food chains can and do collapse, but it doesn't necessarily mean what you are implying. Just curious...
Ryan
Does anyone recall the lifespan of CFC's in the atmosphere? CFC's have an ozone depleating lifespan of 50 to 200 years in the atmosphere. CFC molecules destroy ozone molecules without being consumed in the reaction. Now, when were they banned? 1987. Lets say that CFC's have fallen out of favor for the last 20 years... This means that the majority of the CFC's released are still in the atmosphere. How could the ozone layer be repairing itself in this case?
Is there something I'm missing here?
Ryan
Is there something I'm missing here?
Ryan
Next time a supertanker spills or nuclear plant fails I'm sure you will rethink your statement. LA, Houston, Mexico City, and Jakarta are prime examples that human activity has profound consequences for their inhabitants. A study was just released implied early exposure to LA increases long term cancer risk which has strong biological plausibility b/c infants/toddlers are more sensitive to air quality.
The solution to pollution is dilution. It works if you have an infinite amount of solvent or a stable, manageable level of pollution. We have neither. As developing countries ascend they make more pollution. In the US, better vehicles pollute less per gallon of fuel but we are driving more miles in less fuel efficient vehicles. We also destroy natural biofilters/sinks such as estuaries and forests.
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Why do I feel so disconcerting when I find myself seeming to agree with Moonbeam?
Personally, I tend to feel that most environmentalists have overstated problems and pointed to causes that at best seem dubious.
But, I dunno.
I cannot say who is right when it comes to either Ozone Hole or Global Warming. As of right now we are ignorant to the effects that man may have caused.
Personally, I tend to feel that most environmentalists have overstated problems and pointed to causes that at best seem dubious.
But, I dunno.
They are! Didn't you see the study that proved that pot smoke is a key factor in repairing the ozone hole?
Wtf does global warming have to do with it? Anyway, that's cool. Thank god. I wasn't looking forward to skin cancer (or death.. if there was NO ozone layer at all could humans survive? I doubt it...)
The US ratified and abided by the Montreal Protocol because it was based on hard verifiable science. The danger of thining the ozone layer was clear and the dangerous compounds were identified and banned. There were no questions about what should be done after the science was established.
______________________________
To the Senate of the United States:
I transmit herewith, for the advice and consent of the Senate to ratification, the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer, done at Montreal on September 16, 1987. The report of the Department of State is also enclosed for the information of the Senate.
The Montreal Protocol provides for internationally coordinated control of ozone-depleting substances in order to protect public health and the environment from potential adverse effects of depletion of stratospheric ozone. The Protocol was negotiated under the auspices of the United Nations Environment Program, pursuant to the Vienna Convention for the Protection of the Ozone Layer, which was ratified by the United States in August 1986.
In this historic agreement, the international community undertakes cooperative measures to protect a vital global resource. The United States played a leading role in the negotiation of the Protocol. United States ratification is necessary for entry into force and effective implementation of the Protocol. Early ratification by the United States will encourage similar action by other nations whose participation is also essential.
I recommend that the Senate give early and favorable consideration to the Protocol and give its advice and consent to ratification.
Ronald Reagan
The White House
December 21, 1987
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The true cause of global warming or even if the earth is truly warming is not known. It is as plausible that it is a natural cycle as it is that man has anything to do with it. The earth's history is not one of a stable climate.
Throw out all the links you want to, I've researched this to my satisfaction and have probably already seen them.
______________________________
To the Senate of the United States:
I transmit herewith, for the advice and consent of the Senate to ratification, the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer, done at Montreal on September 16, 1987. The report of the Department of State is also enclosed for the information of the Senate.
The Montreal Protocol provides for internationally coordinated control of ozone-depleting substances in order to protect public health and the environment from potential adverse effects of depletion of stratospheric ozone. The Protocol was negotiated under the auspices of the United Nations Environment Program, pursuant to the Vienna Convention for the Protection of the Ozone Layer, which was ratified by the United States in August 1986.
In this historic agreement, the international community undertakes cooperative measures to protect a vital global resource. The United States played a leading role in the negotiation of the Protocol. United States ratification is necessary for entry into force and effective implementation of the Protocol. Early ratification by the United States will encourage similar action by other nations whose participation is also essential.
I recommend that the Senate give early and favorable consideration to the Protocol and give its advice and consent to ratification.
Ronald Reagan
The White House
December 21, 1987
-------------------------
The true cause of global warming or even if the earth is truly warming is not known. It is as plausible that it is a natural cycle as it is that man has anything to do with it. The earth's history is not one of a stable climate.
Throw out all the links you want to, I've researched this to my satisfaction and have probably already seen them.
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