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OWS Protestors throw condoms at schoolgirls

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I'm more of a lib but I agree with cybrsage on this one. Disgusting, shameful sexist abomination. OWS is looking really bad for this.
 
airdata said:
Less disgusting than somebody bombing an abortion clinic.
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What is even less disgusting is the US invading Iraq. I mean, compared to Hitler annihilating the Jews, the US invasion is nothing so why do so many people bitch about the US?

Deflect, deflect, deflect. Let's not talk about what actually happened and just compare it to something else. Debating skills are running at such a high level on these forums lately.
 
irishScott said:
I'm saying Shira is calling the man a baldfaced liar, or a potential baldfaced liar, with no evidence. For my part I assume a story from a reputable news source is true until proven otherwise.
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Really? Let's repeat my post and see what I ACTUALLY said:

Shira said:
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...ool-girls.html (at the bottom):

Joseph Little, the chief of the capitol police, told Fox News & Commentary that he did not receive any reports of condoms being dropped on children. He also said to his knowledge, nothing happened to that rose to the level of needing to call in additional support.
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So, we have the word of right-to-lifers, but not a single word from anyone representing Occupiers. Yet the right-wing trolls here are sure of their facts. Interesting.

Not that any of this is relevant, of course. 15 (or whatever) bad actors do not discredit an entire movement.
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Now, show me where I called ANYONE a "baldfaced liar", or a "potential baldfaced liar." And show me where I said "no evidence."

What I DID do was provide a statement from an impartial official that he'd received no reports that condoms were thrown. And what I DID say was that no one from OWS was quoted in the story. And I ACCURATELY said that based on this one-sided report, right-wingers on ATPN nevertheless seems awfully certain of their facts.

So it's pretty clear that you're the bald-faced liar. You've completely distorted my post. In fact, your second post provides further evidence that the story was different from what was originally reported:

Bracy:

Healy was interrupted and shouted down. "And that's when the condoms started coming down," Bracy said, before rushing to tell us that they were "unused."
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So, in this "alternative version" of the story, condoms are now "coming down." Not "Condoms were being thrown at school girls."

But I suppose that if there happened to be school girls in the right-to-life crowd, and condoms were "coming down", than rabid right-wingers with severe problems in interpreting reality would say that "condoms were thrown at school girls." Because it sounds so much more outrageous to rail against a straw-man version of reality - and a straw-man version of my earlier post - than actually deal with with what actually occurred or what actually was posted.
 
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shira said:
Really? Let's repeat my post and see what I ACTUALLY said:



Now, show me where I called ANYONE a "baldfaced liar", or a "potential baldfaced liar." And show me where I said "no evidence."

What I DID do was provide a statement from an impartial official that he'd received no reports that condoms were thrown. And what I DID say was that no one from OWS was quoted in the story. And I ACCURATELY said that based on this one-sided report, right-wingers on ATPN nevertheless seems awfully certain of their facts.

So it's pretty clear that you're the bald-faced liar. You've completely distorted my post. In fact, your second post provides further evidence that the story was different from what was originally reported:

Bracy:



So, in this "alternative version" of the story, condoms are now "coming down." Not "Condoms were being thrown at school girls."

But I suppose that if there happened to be school girls in the right-to-life crowd, and condoms were "coming down", than rabid right-wingers with severe problems in interpreting reality would say that "condoms were thrown at school girls." Because it sounds so much more outrageous to rail against a straw-man version of reality - and a straw-man version of my earlier post - than actually deal with with what actually occurred or what actually was posted.
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I guess God made it rain condoms. It's a miracle.

Joking aside, it is good to get another account of the story---especially from the chief of police. It isn't fair to make a judgment on OWS without another side to the story. Parts of OWS have done some despicable things but this one may turn out to not have happened. Just need to wait and see.
 
shira said:
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarne...rs-dump-condoms-on-catholic-school-girls.html (at the bottom):

So, we have the word of right-to-lifers, but not a single word from anyone representing Occupiers. Yet the right-wing trolls here are sure of their facts. Interesting.

Not that any of this is relevant, of course. 15 (or whatever) bad actors do not discredit an entire movement.
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The Occupy Providence discussion group shows the motion to take this action and their Facebook page shows pictures celebrating the protest.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.290299321028954.72027.225025290889691&type=1

Yeah...just a few bad actors indeed.
 
This is a little silly I must admit. It'd be like the NRA protesting equal rights for gay people. Sure, those are both conservative causes, but they're unrelated.
 
Fausto said:
Non-story from a ridiculous news "source". You suck at trolling.
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Business Insider is a rediculous news source? Have anything to back this up, or is it simply a strange opinion of yours?

The site provides and analyzes business news and acts as an aggregator of top news stories from around the web, each with an "edgy" commentary. Its original works are sometimes cited by other, larger, publications such as The New York Times[2] and domestic news outlets like National Public Radio.[3]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Insider
 
Liberals are funny. I love when a news article paints the OWS people in a bad light, it's considered a ridiculous news source. But if it was a news article from the same organization painting the OWS people in a good light, you'd never hear the end of it.
 
thegimp03 said:
Liberals are funny. I love when a news article paints the OWS people in a bad light, it's considered a ridiculous news source. But if it was a news article from the same organization painting the OWS people in a good light, you'd never hear the end of it.
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It honestly doesn't matter who the counter protesters were. Even assuming the article is factual, they didn't do anything other than be loud and obnoxious. From the tiny facebook pics posted in some of the article, it looks like there were about five of them present yet the article uses scary phrases like "military precision". It's laughable, like 90% of the garbage cybrsage graces us with. Pro-life people have been lining up at clinics and doctors' homes for YEARS but a handful of people counter-protest a pro-life rally and OMG THEY WERE LIKE SOME KIND OF PRO-ABORTION DELTA FORCE THERE WAS BLOOD EVERYWHERE. 😀
 
JockoJohnson said:
What is even less disgusting is the US invading Iraq. I mean, compared to Hitler annihilating the Jews, the US invasion is nothing so why do so many people bitch about the US?

Deflect, deflect, deflect. Let's not talk about what actually happened and just compare it to something else. Debating skills are running at such a high level on these forums lately.
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dude really? you rant about deflect... but you just started talking about hitler, jews, Iraq, invasion in a thread about nut jobs throwing rubbers on school girls....

stay on topic or get the fuck out.
 
thegimp03 said:
Liberals are funny. I love when a news article paints the OWS people in a bad light, it's considered a ridiculous news source. But if it was a news article from the same organization painting the OWS people in a good light, you'd never hear the end of it.
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...and conservotards *don't* do this...right?

It was an innane, non-news article forwarded to ProJo through a *sign up for anti-librul non-news articles* conservotard ditto head "think"-tank.

Validity not found.

Oh, and if it's "liberal" to consider the source and veracity of an inflammatory article...well, that's cool, I guess. Doesn't really say much for conservotards though.
 
The irony here is that Occupy Providence demonstrated complete contempt for the rights of others to peacefully assemble. And to add insult to injury, the Catholic Diocese was directly responsible for meeting Occupy Providence demands made to the City for an emergency overflow homeless shelter. Bad form on both counts.
 
etrigan420 said:
It was an innane, non-news article forwarded to ProJo through a *sign up for anti-librul non-news articles* conservotard ditto head "think"-tank.
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You still have not bothered to say what a ProJo is...and you should be ashamed of yourself for calling your own mom a conservotard.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
The Occupy Providence discussion group shows the motion to take this action and their Facebook page shows pictures celebrating the protest.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.290299321028954.72027.225025290889691&type=1

Yeah...just a few bad actors indeed.
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So you're saying that an organized protest is "bad?" All I see at the page you linked is photos of people holding banners. And in reading the comments, I see, for example, the following long, unedited post:

I love how exercising rights to freedom of speech is now being misconstrued as "attack on rights of free speech". It's the State House, we have the right to show up and make our voice heard. They weren't just "exercising free speech", they were trying to lobby and influence State representatives and elected officials. Furthermore, they were trying to lobby to have my right to decide what happens to my own body taken away. That makes me feel like I'm being attacked and I have the right to speak out against that. Let's not be dramatic, opposition isn't the same as attacking your freedom of speech. If you really cared about the freedom of speech you'd be up in arms about the NDAA and Rahm Emanuel silencing the voice of dissent in Chicago. Clearly that's not really your concern. Also, I love how suddenly all these older white men in suits are claiming to have been supporters of Occupy Providence since day one. I don't remember seeing a single one of you prior to now and I don't remember seeing your name on the list serve or attached to any donations. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you never supported the Occupy Providence movement, if you did you would support our right to ALSO exercise our freedom of speech and not spin lies around our action in an effort to demonize just because you disagree with our stance. Also, we never claimed to represent the 99%, we claimed to be the 99%, in a figurative commentary on the fact that 1% of the population controls 46% of the wealth. We are not that 1% so we organize to fight back against this type of economic inequality. You you can cry all you want about how this doesn't represent everyone in the 99%, but it definitely affects most people who are affected by economic inequality. If you take government funding out of abortion (which is what the RI Right to Lifers were lobbying for), guess who can still afford abortions? Not single working class women. Not families that can't afford the three kids they already have and are having mortgage their home. Not women living on the streets or in shelters. Not teens who are rape or incest victims who have no money of their own. But the wealthy? The wealthy have always and will always have safe access to abortions. Taking government funding out of abortion services makes abortion a privilege of the wealthy rather than a right of women to choose what happens to their own body. That is an attack on women, who make up more than half of the figurative 99% in this struggle for economic equality. And as for your claim that over half the population is pro-life, here are the stats from the latest Gallup poll: Only 20% of Americans are against abortion under any circumstance (rape, incest, health risk, etc.), 51% of people believe it should be legal (but under certain circumstances), 13% believe it should be legal under most circumstances, and 26% believe it should be legal under any circumstance.
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Explain to me again how these are "bad actors?"
 
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