Ownage of the year 2013 nomination thread *update with links!*

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gorcorps

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the thread says it was a loan, you fool. is that a problem now to loan money between family members?



it was an exaggeration on how much money I saved, of course I had rent and expenses.


Wtf this fucking thread?! This is like the Spanish Inquisition...

Why do you give a shit what strangers on the internet think? Just ignore the questions. Every time you reply you end up looking worse anyway so it can only help you
 

glenn1

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Some people are just trying too hard; now we have a previous nominee arguing that we should switch from alternating to direct current for the national electric grid.
 

DrPizza

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Some people are just trying too hard; now we have a previous nominee arguing that we should switch from alternating to direct current for the national electric grid.
Unless I'm mistaken, there are enough advantages to DC for long distance transmission for it to be more economical than AC for long distance transmission. So, he's partially correct. Just a tiny, tiny, tiny bit correct.
 

glenn1

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Unless I'm mistaken, there are enough advantages to DC for long distance transmission for it to be more economical than AC for long distance transmission. So, he's partially correct. Just a tiny, tiny, tiny bit correct.

Actually DC generating plants have to be within a kilometer or so of the consumer. You would also need a separate electric line to be run to your house for every appliance that used a different voltage unless you installed an AC transformer in your house, which kinda negates any advantage of using DC to begin with.
 

HumblePie

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Well that was an entertaining read for today. Some of those I completely missed and many of those I skimmed over because the threads were so huge I didn't even want to bother with them at the time. Too bad I started reading this thread after all Alky's more self pwnage was removed. Although I am not entirely disappointed as sometimes reading his posts is almost as bad as reading anything by moonie.
 
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PowerEngineer

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Some people are just trying too hard; now we have a previous nominee arguing that we should switch from alternating to direct current for the national electric grid.

Unless I'm mistaken, there are enough advantages to DC for long distance transmission for it to be more economical than AC for long distance transmission. So, he's partially correct. Just a tiny, tiny, tiny bit correct.

Actually DC generating plants have to be within a kilometer or so of the consumer. You would also need a separate electric line to be run to your house for every appliance that used a different voltage unless you installed an AC transformer in your house, which kinda negates any advantage of using DC to begin with.

This thread by the OP is far from his most outrageous.

As glenn1 implies, one of AC's biggest advantages is the ability to easily change voltages through transformers. As DrPizza observes, DC transmission is actually more efficient; there already are some DC long-distance transmission lines integrated into the system.

I think we may see DC distribution (in addition to AC) in homes and businesses some day if makers of end-use equipment can standardize their requirements. Wouldn't it be nicer to have one big DC power supply in a home rather than all the small ones we now have in every piece of electronics? The electrical outlets that now sport USB charging outlets are a small first step in that direction.
 

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This thread by the OP is far from his most outrageous.

As glenn1 implies, one of AC's biggest advantages is the ability to easily change voltages through transformers. As DrPizza observes, DC transmission is actually more efficient; there already are some DC long-distance transmission lines integrated into the system.

I think we may see DC distribution (in addition to AC) in homes and businesses some day if makers of end-use equipment can standardize their requirements. Wouldn't it be nicer to have one big DC power supply in a home rather than all the small ones we now have in every piece of electronics? The electrical outlets that now sport USB charging outlets are a small first step in that direction.
That's actually a pretty neat idea. You wouldn't necessarily have DC supplied to the house, but rather, a single transformer in the house with little outlets distributed throughout the house to plug into. Similar, I suppose, to the wiring from a doorbell transformer, with a single transformer supplying power to the whole circuit. Or perhaps even more like the low voltage wiring for hardwired telephone system. But, that would require all electronics producers to agree on a standard input voltage. I doubt larger appliances in homes would ever be DC - it would require much more complicated switching than current switches, in order to avoid arcing & fires.
 

Venix

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it was an exaggeration on how much money I saved, of course I had rent and expenses.

It's almost too easy: "I lived at home until I was 24, bought a house and moved in when I was 25 after 8 months of repairs and rennovations. Sure my parents could have kicked me out at 18 , having fulfilled their "legal obligations". The difference was that my parents CARED about me enough to keep me home as long as we both agreed to a few things. I had to go to school and keep up good grades. I had to help out around the house, cleanup, chores and I didnt have to pay rent."
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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It's almost too easy: "I lived at home until I was 24, bought a house and moved in when I was 25 after 8 months of repairs and rennovations. Sure my parents could have kicked me out at 18 , having fulfilled their "legal obligations". The difference was that my parents CARED about me enough to keep me home as long as we both agreed to a few things. I had to go to school and keep up good grades. I had to help out around the house, cleanup, chores and I didnt have to pay rent."

Now, you're just beating a dead horse. :)

NetWareHead 's problem is he was born with the handicap of too much money but, he's young enough to learn how the world really works. I have faith.
 

Dari

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That's actually a pretty neat idea. You wouldn't necessarily have DC supplied to the house, but rather, a single transformer in the house with little outlets distributed throughout the house to plug into. Similar, I suppose, to the wiring from a doorbell transformer, with a single transformer supplying power to the whole circuit. Or perhaps even more like the low voltage wiring for hardwired telephone system. But, that would require all electronics producers to agree on a standard input voltage. I doubt larger appliances in homes would ever be DC - it would require much more complicated switching than current switches, in order to avoid arcing & fires.

http://www.economist.com/news/inter...trical-revolution-it-will-make-power-supplies

Electricity

Edison’s revenge

The humble USB cable is part of an electrical revolution. It will make power supplies greener and cheaper

Oct 19th 2013 | From the print edition






FIDDLY cables, incompatible plugs and sockets, and the many adaptors needed to fit them all together used to be the travellers’ bane. But the USB (Universal Serial Bus) has simplified their life. Most phones and other small gadgets can charge from a simple USB cable plugged into a computer or an adaptor. Some 10 billion of them are already in use. Hotel rooms, aircraft seats, cars and new buildings increasingly come with USB sockets as a standard electrical fitting.

Now a much bigger change is looming. From 2014, a USB cable will be able to provide power to bigger electronic devices. In the long term this could change the way homes and offices use electricity, cutting costs and improving efficiency.


The man who invented the USB, Ajay Bhatt of Intel, a chipmaker, barely thought about power. His main aim was to cut the clutter and time-wasting involved in plugging things into a computer. The keyboard, mouse, speakers and so forth all required different cables, and often drivers (special bits of software) as well. The USB connection’s chief role was to help computers and devices negotiate and communicate.

Mr Bhatt did not think he was creating a new charging system. Indeed, the trickle of electricity (up to ten watts on the existing standard) is still barely enough for devices such as an iPad. Yet USB charging is now the default for phones, e-readers and other small gadgets. Some mobile-phone manufacturers are already shipping their products without a power adaptor. Ingenious inventors have eked out the slender USB power supply to run fans, tiny fridges and toy rocket-launchers.

The big change next year will be a new USB PD (Power Delivery) standard, which brings much more flexibility and ten times as much oomph: up to 100 watts. In his London office Simon Daniel, founder of Moixa, a technology company, charges his laptop from a prototype souped-up USB socket. The office lighting, which uses low-voltage LED (light-emitting diode) lamps, runs from the same circuit. So do the monitors, printers and (with some fiddling) desktops. Mains power is only for power-thirsty microwaves, kettles and the like.

Current affairs

That could presage a much bigger shift, reviving the cause of direct current (DC) as the preferred way to power the growing number of low-voltage devices in homes and offices. DC has been something of a poor relation in the electrical world since it lost out to alternating current (AC) in a long-ago battle in which its champion Nikola Tesla (pictured, left) trounced Thomas Edison (right). Tesla won, among other reasons, because it was (in those days) easier to shift AC power between different voltages. It was therefore a better system for transmitting and distributing electricity.

But the tide may be turning. Turning AC into the direct current required to power transistors (the heart of all electronic equipment) is a nuisance. The usual way is through a mains adaptor. These ubiquitous little black boxes are now cheap and light. But they are often inefficient, turning power into heat. And they are dumb: they run night and day, regardless of whether the price of electricity is high or low. It would be better to have a DC network, of the kind Mr Daniel has rigged up, for all electronic devices in a home or office.

This is where USB cables come in. They carry direct current and also data. That means they can help set priorities between devices that are providing power and those that are consuming it: for example, a laptop that is charging a mobile phone. “The computer can say ‘I need to start the hard disk now, so no charging for the next ten seconds’,” says Mr Bhatt. The new standard, with variable voltage and greater power, enlarges the possibilities. So does another new feature: that power can flow in any direction.

This chimes with another advantage. A low-voltage DC network works well with solar panels. These produce DC power at variable times and in variable amounts. They are increasingly cheap, and can fit in windows or on roofs. Though solar power is tricky to feed into the AC mains grid, it is ideally suited to a low-voltage local DC network. When the sun is shining, it can help charge all your laptops, phones and other battery-powered devices.

Such a set-up would benefit an individual home or office. It works even better if the network has a biggish central battery hooked up to the mains grid, which can charge itself up at night when power is cheap. But the real prize comes when several buildings combine such DC networks. Pooling supply, demand and storage gives you the makings of a “smart grid”—an electricity supply system which is more resilient and thrifty than the existing set-up.

Emergency planners like the idea: in a power cut, devices such as phones are vital. Those trying to manage ageing power grids welcome anything that flattens the peaks in electricity consumption.

Mr Daniel’s company has already set up a dozen prototypes in Britain, including at a London theatre and in a neighbourhood in Southend-on-Sea. Another project is at Nupharo, a technological park in the Czech Republic. A conference held there this month looked at how to bring low-voltage DC power networks to people in poor countries who have scant chance of hooking up to the AC mains grid. A system that stores solar power and shares it among those needing to charge mobile phones or read at night meets a big need.

Electricity-lovers are excited. Low-voltage DC power is cheap, safe and green. Big companies are working on rejigging chips and logic to fit the new standard. The first USB PD devices will come to market in 2014, with a “big roll-out” in 2015, says Brad Saunders of Intel. Gregory Reed, of the Swanson School of Engineering at the University of Pittsburgh, calls the new USB standard a “game-changer”. Big data centres, with their huge, humming arrays of servers, are already using DC circuits. Homes and offices will follow, he says.

The shift comes just in time for the “internet of things”—the idea that devices and gadgets can talk intelligently and automatically to each other online. That will mean many millions of new bits of equipment, all needing their own power supply and means of communication. The new USB standard provides both.

Mr Bhatt, who invented it 20 years ago, is delighted. His next plan is to make the USB cable “flippable”—so that the plug fits the socket whichever way it is inserted (for now it works only one way round). That tiresome flaw is because an original design priority was to make manufacture as cheap as possible: few believed his idea would really catch on.
 

Pulsar

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Now, you're just beating a dead horse. :)

NetWareHead 's problem is he was born with the handicap of too much money but, he's young enough to learn how the world really works. I have faith.

NetWareHead also doesn't quite understand that owning someone requires a short to-the-point post that is easily read and understood. Much like the one posted about him.

Trying to explain and rationalize why you're right with pages of bullshit doesn't work - I stopped reading after his first paragraph. He looks like an idiot, and I really don't care enough to delve into all the minutiae he wants to present to try to justify why he's right. Nor does anyone else.

Netware has won. This contest is over, and I don't think we even need a poll.
 

dud

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If there were a vote I would have to go with the The Trayvon/Zimmerman thread.

So many people wasted so much of their life posting in that thread (I posted in the thread about 5 times myself). My favorite poster was Darkman. This dude racked up over 4,000 posts in like 6 months ... mostly within that thread.
 

noobsrevenge

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Now, you're just beating a dead horse. :)

NetWareHead 's problem is he was born with the handicap of too much money but, he's young enough to learn how the world really works. I have faith.

I dunno, any administrator of netware has got to be pretty sharp.

I cannot imagine why he would be named netware head otherwise.

Netware skills = respect IMO.
 

rudeguy

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If there were a vote I would have to go with the The Trayvon/Zimmerman thread.

So many people wasted so much of their life posting in that thread (I posted in the thread about 5 times myself). My favorite poster was Darkman. This dude racked up over 4,000 posts in like 6 months ... mostly within that thread.

There will be a vote! I just need to figure out how to set it up.

Unless perky or Harvey figured out how to add more options to polls. Last I checked they couldn't.
 

gorcorps

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There will be a vote! I just need to figure out how to set it up.

Unless perky or Harvey figured out how to add more options to polls. Last I checked they couldn't.

It'll be awkward, but maybe split it up into multiple threads/polls then pit the winners of those polls against each other in a final vote. It's like playoffs for ownage! Or maybe there's a site out there that lets you generate a generic poll for free and we'll just have to vote externally.
 

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It'll be awkward, but maybe split it up into multiple threads/polls then pit the winners of those polls against each other in a final vote. It's like playoffs for ownage! Or maybe there's a site out there that lets you generate a generic poll for free and we'll just have to vote externally.

pollcode.com
 
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