Overrated celebrity Japanese game devs whats the deal?

[Skurge]

Yes, the physics of running into a guard rail head on at 85mph, bouncing off undamaged with a dull thud sound, and carrying on while barely losing any momentum is just puts everything else to shame.

No current racing sim does accidents very well. GT is worst at it as you describe. As for car handling physics. Few games come close. As shown, by your only complaint being how the game handles accidents. Forza doesn't.

Games like GTR2 are a set above GT, as they simulate many more aspects of the car.

 

[TestKing123]

Aww hell no!

While some indies are pretty darn good, your statement is outlandish.

And the original statement wasn't? You don't find it odd Japanese developers were compared to Call of Duty when Japanese developers aren't even known for first person shooters? So is the poster shitting on American developers or the entire first person shooter genre, keenly avoiding genres/games that have excelled that have no real Japanese counterparts?

Japanese developers have a distinct style that not everyone likes. Sure, you may go crazy over the next MSG or Final Fantasy or Resident Evil, while I prefer the next Dragon Age or Elder Scrolls game. I also find it amusing that one of the upcoming Japanese games "The Evil Within" is being so massively overhyped despite looking and playing exactly like the Silent Hill / Resident Evil series...it even took "Pyramid head" and changed it to "Box head" i this game :lol:

As far indie games, I would go far as to say indie developers are miles ahead of major developers regardless of where they're from.

 

[Anteaus]

No current racing sim does accidents very well. GT is worst at it as you describe. As for car handling physics. Few games come close. As shown, by your only complaint being how the game handles accidents. Forza doesn't.

Games like GTR2 are a set above GT, as they simulate many more aspects of the car.

Your right about that. Truthfully I'm quite tired of hearing about the physics in Forza and GT and how "realistic" they are. "Feels like" is not equivalent to "is like". Many of us play these games through plastic controllers where the only tactile feedback is through unidirectional vibration. I could just hear Jay Leno now saying "damn, the McLaren P1 in Gran Turismo drives just like the one in my garage!". People are so delusional. I hand it do the Gran Turismo guys that they created a very realistic feeling game, but to say it's more accurate than Forza or vice versus is simply not reasonable. Where is the baseline? Until someone wires a game controller up to a real race car and makes a 1:1 comparison, there isn't enough evidence to say one is more "sim" than the other. "Because it feels like it" is not a reasonable answer.

 

[schmuckley]

Lollipop Chainsaw is pretty epic!
I never even played it..I just watched playthrough..but it looked entertaining.!

 

[Sulaco]

No current racing sim does accidents very well. GT is worst at it as you describe. As for car handling physics. Few games come close. As shown, by your only complaint being how the game handles accidents. Forza doesn't.

Games like GTR2 are a set above GT, as they simulate many more aspects of the car.

It's not just dramatic head-on collisions with stationary objects (which GT is laughably bad at), but also much more frequent and important car-on-car collisions and bumps, which is atrociously bad in GT. Slamming into the read end of a car at 85 mph because they suddenly braked does nothing, nada, ZIP, to you or the other car. It's laughable. At least in Forza, it causes a spin-out.
And with how terrible the AI is, bumping into cars, and having random AI bump into each other, is an issue that can't be overlooked.
Either way, Forza's modeling is still light years beyond GT's in that aspect, and at the very least quite reasonably close in other physics aspects.

The one thing where it's not even close, is how soundly Forza trounces GT in virtually everything else.

 

[clok1966]

I will have to disagree here. I've played a lot of Forza, Gran Turismo is still the better game. The physics in Forza is not as good as GT. Project Cars is not finished so it isn't as good either. I only recently got Assetto Corsa so I don't know about that yet.

GT may have it's sound issues and AI issues, but it's Physics are worlds better than Forza. It helps when the chief dev is actually a race driver. Thats one of the reasons why GTR2 was so good.

yes there is a reason REAL race car drivers use GT and not Forza (Several F1 drivers who are younger have professed its the closest thing to real racing video game wise) Of ocurse some are paid to like one or the other, we wont count them as cash is king when it comes to those opinions. While Im not PRO racer, i have done Enduro and some Stock classes and while they are not the same type of racing. GT is far more "real" IMHO. And as race car drives state, its not about running into other cars, its about driving the perfect line.

 

[smackababy]

Quite a lot of these devs earned their praise. Guys like Hideo Kojima and Shinji Mikami created or defined what a genre should be. The fact that they also ruined it years later is par for the course. Even guys like John Carmack did the same thing. They advanced FPS lightyears beyond what it was previously, however, they eventually ended up stagnating and their IP turned to crap.

 

[TheSlamma]

Quite a lot of these devs earned their praise. Guys like Hideo Kojima and Shinji Mikami created or defined what a genre should be. The fact that they also ruined it years later is par for the course. Even guys like John Carmack did the same thing. They advanced FPS lightyears beyond what it was previously, however, they eventually ended up stagnating and their IP turned to crap.

Sorry, he was the producer on all those lame later released metal gear games, he doesn't get an out.